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John Stevenson
10-16-2003, 07:18 PM
I went down to London today to pick this Elliot 14" shaper up.
Decent trip down but when I got there no Elliot. The guy had made a mistake in describing the machine, easily done as Elliot's were a big Machine tool dealer here in the UK, he'd read the agents plate and not the big ALBA cast in 6" high letters on the side !!
Also I have no idea where he got the 14" from as the model is just listed as Alba 4M but the ram scale is clearly marked at 18"

So I set off expecting an Elliot 14" weighing in at about 3/4 ton and finished up with an Alba 18" at about a ton and a quarter.
That made the truck grunt. Steady ride back and I had to take the vise, the bed box and the ram off before the crane could manage it.
Got it dropped into position, box, vise and ram back on, wired up and Igor was alive again.
Only had time for a quick play because I had to do some emergency jobs before I could get this machine in place.
Customers are a right pain in the a@#$.

Runs nice and smooth and quiet.
Pic of the machine installed at:-
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevenson.engineers/lsteve/files/alba1.jpg
The machine behind this is a Butler 6" vertical slotter.
Pic of the cutting.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevenson.engineers/lsteve/files/alba2.jpg
This is a block of steel 3" wide and the cut is 1/4" deep. On the other end the cut was 3/8" but the tool was a little blunt.

John S.

[This message has been edited by John Stevenson (edited 10-16-2003).]

BC21OSH
10-16-2003, 08:26 PM
Wow, nice machine and a great price. A little tool envy here.

Bernard

wierdscience
10-16-2003, 11:01 PM
Yes,very nice,thats the first shaper I have seen with t-slots in the foot casting,thats neat,I'm sure they would occasionaly come in handy.

shaque
10-16-2003, 11:28 PM
Doggone it John, move to Canada and bring your toys with you so we can play too. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
jim

shaque
10-16-2003, 11:29 PM
Doggone it John, move to Canada and bring your toys with you so we can play too. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
jim

Forrest Addy
10-17-2003, 12:51 AM
Now THAT'S a shaper. Looks to be in good shape too. I've cut many a double tapered chock on its American cousins. Running a shapers is its own reward.

How come those chips aren't brown just truning blue?

John, does the block revolve?

John Stevenson
10-17-2003, 04:54 AM
Forrest,
There is no reason for it not to do so, 4 equispaced stud holes but they have machined a tenon on the block face to line up with a tee slot.
It can go upside down which isn't much use.

It really needs the tenon milling off and replacing with a slot and a loose tenon to be really useful.
I perhaps should have bought a more expensive model http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

For the use I've bought it for, experimenting with gears it won't matter but it did strike me as a silly thing to do.

John S.

Ian B
10-18-2003, 05:06 AM
John,

Congrats on the purchase. I have a remarkably similar machine, but mine is an Elliott - the round cover on the side is marked Invicta 4M.

It looks like badge engineering - so, fear not, you really do have an Elliott shaper (or I have an Alba, whatever...)

I bought mine in Holland, I was obviously ripped off - 90 quid. Seems the machine spent its whole life in the workshops of the Dutch version of British Rail. None the worse for it, other than getting painted blue. Came to me via a machine tool dealer - if I hadn't have bought it, the next stop was the scrapyard.

Great machine - enjoy

Ian