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hojpoj
01-02-2010, 11:50 AM
As much as I'd like to pick up some Old Iron, my investment in milling capability is going to be limited to a benchtop size.

...so, when I heard that someone saw some new things in the new Grizzly catalog (which I've yet to receive), I anxiously popped over to their website to see if they were offering the Sieg SX2 mini mill. Sadly, they're not, but I did come across this little curiosity:

http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2010/Main/533

or the direct webpage for G0704 (http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0704)

It appears to be something just a tad smaller than the SX3 at the same price point of the X3. Does anyone know anything about this particular model? It might be easier for me to get that cleared with SWMBO than the SX3.

Cheers,
Eric

vpt
01-02-2010, 12:19 PM
Only thing I would be worried about is the bearings in the head. From what I hear these cheaper machines have pretty much the same bearings as those in a normal drill press and don't take horizontal pressures happily.

But I could be all wrong. Also if you plan on only doing light light work the grizzly might be just the ticket for you.

RB211
01-02-2010, 12:24 PM
I have the grizzly X3. This is the same mill that Lathemaster sells, and busy bee. Looks to be a good deal.

RB211
01-02-2010, 12:25 PM
Only thing I would be worried about is the bearings in the head. From what I hear these cheaper machines have pretty much the same bearings as those in a normal drill press and don't take horizontal pressures happily.

But I could be all wrong. Also if you plan on only doing light light work the grizzly might be just the ticket for you.

These mills have no such problem with bearings.

Black_Moons
01-02-2010, 12:38 PM
Iv not heard of any bearing problems with these lighter mills, They are just not rigid enough to take cuts deep enough to damage thier lighter duty dearings.

fixxit
01-02-2010, 01:15 PM
I think that the "1 HP 110v 3.2A" motor is a bit of a stretch.
Perhaps a half a Horse Power.

John Stevenson
01-02-2010, 01:19 PM
Made here.

http://www.weiss.com.cn/mill_drill.htm

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lenord
01-02-2010, 01:48 PM
How come griz or others don't seel these monsters ?

http://www.weiss.com.cn/products/wm5150.php

http://www.weiss.com.cn/products/wm7140.php

Lenord

airsmith282
01-02-2010, 02:05 PM
its almost the same machine as my Ct129 busy bee mill ,mine is still the better machine over all other then i have MT2 and this one has R8 the R8 is its only advantage

hojpoj
01-02-2010, 03:02 PM
Made here.

http://www.weiss.com.cn/mill_drill.htm

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Bingo, that's what I was looking for. Thanks John!

I just hope there're enough reviews out there to get an idea of whether it's worth it or not.

Cheers,
Eric

Mike of the North
01-02-2010, 04:09 PM
I always thought this was an interesting looking mill, http://www.wttool.com/product-exec/product_id/14821/nm/6_x_26_Knee_Milling_Machine_WT_Import_
If I hadn't got my Bridgeport for $700 I would have got one.

JoeFin
01-02-2010, 04:47 PM
I had an older version of 1 of these

http://www.grizzly.com/products/8-x-30-Variable-Speed-Vertical-Mill/G0678

Should fit into the same footprint as the 1st one you were looking at. Certainly was a good learning machine for me.

Only the model I had came with flood coolant built into the base, and a step pully

oldtiffie
01-02-2010, 04:57 PM
I think that Brian Rupnow has one - or very similar.

I recall it because Brian had to modify/relocate the high "Z" hand-wheel to a lower position recently.

http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/showthread.php?t=37721

hojpoj
01-02-2010, 10:13 PM
I think that Brian Rupnow has one - or very similar.

I recall it because Brian had to modify/relocate the high "Z" hand-wheel to a lower position recently.

http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/showthread.php?t=37721

Yeah, when I saw the picture on the website I vaguely recalled some discussion of a power feed for a similar setup. Didn't quite click that it was the same mill (or looks darn close).

Upon further deliberation I may just have to hold out for the SX3 - seems to be more of an aftermarket for accessories n' parts. Plus I've got a rotator cuff issue that not only gets in the way of ballroom dancing, but would (more importantly) impact my shop time if I got that new model!:eek:

RB211
01-02-2010, 10:24 PM
Yeah, when I saw the picture on the website I vaguely recalled some discussion of a power feed for a similar setup. Didn't quite click that it was the same mill (or looks darn close).

Upon further deliberation I may just have to hold out for the SX3 - seems to be more of an aftermarket for accessories n' parts. Plus I've got a rotator cuff issue that not only gets in the way of ballroom dancing, but would (more importantly) impact my shop time if I got that new model!:eek:

I have the X3, if your rotator cuff bothers you, the Z axis will also bother you on the X3 or SX3. You'll probably want to fit a power Z assist or use counter weights.

hojpoj
01-03-2010, 09:22 AM
I have the X3, if your rotator cuff bothers you, the Z axis will also bother you on the X3 or SX3. You'll probably want to fit a power Z assist or use counter weights.

Well, the problem comes in when I have reach up. I figured that since the Z-axis hand wheel was on the base hangin' off the front, that'd be less of an issue.

The counterweight for the head will be a given, as I'd like to eventually CNC the little bugger.:D

RB211
01-03-2010, 10:29 AM
Well, the problem comes in when I have reach up. I figured that since the Z-axis hand wheel was on the base hangin' off the front, that'd be less of an issue.

The counterweight for the head will be a given, as I'd like to eventually CNC the little bugger.:D

The Z axis will give you a workout

roger albert
01-27-2010, 09:42 PM
Darn the luck.

I thought I had my choice narrowed to X3 vs SuperX3, but now this little guy shows up. http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0704


Anyone with experience on it yet? All 3 of those mills are close enough in price that that won't play much role for me. Just features and capability.

Any additional thoughts VERY welcome.

thanks
roger

Oh yes, and interested in Zaxis power options too, as my rotator cuffs are also not awesome.

gwilson
01-27-2010, 11:23 PM
Mike,you are damned lucky you got the Bridgeport. I bought one of those turret mills,made in Taiwan. It wasn't used much,and the leadscrew jumped the nut. I took it apart,and the nut was only threaded about .015" deep. Enco doesn't sell them anymore. Parts from SIMILAR mills don't fit. And,the leadscrew was metric,so the dials had several thousanths left over with each revolution. That makes it miserable to count turns for making things like accurate hole spacing several inches apart.

wierdscience
01-28-2010, 12:05 AM
How come griz or others don't seel these monsters ?

http://www.weiss.com.cn/products/wm5150.php

http://www.weiss.com.cn/products/wm7140.php

Lenord

Probably because even thogh Chinese they would be still close to $30,000 or better.That's getting close enough to CNC to make the market for them small.

lugnut
01-28-2010, 12:18 AM
Looks great. I have a Griz X3 and like it. The one thing I see with the mill your looking at is the location of the Z height handle. I don't know how tall you are but that looks like a very uncomfortable reach. And it take a lot of turns on the handle to move the head very far. Something to look at.
Would be great to get your hands on one to try out first.
Mel

roger albert
01-28-2010, 02:19 AM
Thanks for that comment lugnut. I'm not at all tall, and that handle for Z is pretty far up. Last thing one needs when they already have rotater cuff issues.
Hmmm, guess that puts me back to the X3 vs superX3 quandry.

hojpoj
01-28-2010, 08:18 AM
Thanks for that comment lugnut. I'm not at all tall, and that handle for Z is pretty far up. Last thing one needs when they already have rotater cuff issues.
Hmmm, guess that puts me back to the X3 vs superX3 quandry.

Were it me, I'd get the SX3. From what I've read they've got more grunt in the Brushless motor, and are a bit quieter to boot.

Not sure whether to consider it fortunate or unfortunate, but I got a decent used X2 setup with some extras for a reasonable price (and the promise to use it to make an xyz mortising setup for the lady that sold it to me). Kinda knocks me out of the market 'til next year (after my September wedding's paid for :rolleyes:)

sidneyt
01-28-2010, 10:35 AM
Mike,you are damned lucky you got the Bridgeport. I bought one of those turret mills,made in Taiwan. It wasn't used much,and the leadscrew jumped the nut. I took it apart,and the nut was only threaded about .015" deep. Enco doesn't sell them anymore. Parts from SIMILAR mills don't fit. And,the leadscrew was metric,so the dials had several thousanths left over with each revolution. That makes it miserable to count turns for making things like accurate hole spacing several inches apart.

So, you just put up with the leadscrew jumping the nut? I guess you work around that problem somehow. Too bad you don't any machinists who could make a new nut. It seems I have read of some HSM who has made a new leadscrew nut.

gnm109
01-28-2010, 10:54 AM
Mike,you are damned lucky you got the Bridgeport. I bought one of those turret mills,made in Taiwan. It wasn't used much,and the leadscrew jumped the nut. I took it apart,and the nut was only threaded about .015" deep. Enco doesn't sell them anymore. Parts from SIMILAR mills don't fit. And,the leadscrew was metric,so the dials had several thousanths left over with each revolution. That makes it miserable to count turns for making things like accurate hole spacing several inches apart.


Enco has parts for most of their machines back 15 or more years. I recently bought a new compound for my 1994 Enco 13 X 40 lathe. All you would need is a parts list in order to get the number. They have a large warehouse in Georgia.

A metric halfnut can either be purchased or cut on a lathe.

lugnut
01-28-2010, 11:28 AM
Motorizing that "Z" handle would be a great and mayby fun project. I know I've been looking to do that to my X3.
Mel

Al Messer
01-28-2010, 03:40 PM
Are they calibrated .062 or .100 inch per turn of the wheel?

T_henry
01-28-2010, 04:28 PM
I have the Lathmaster version of this mill and I am 5'9" and the Z handle works fine for me, Brain said he had a bad shoulder and I can see where this mill would be a problem then. Within the limits of this type a mill it has been a very good machine for me.

Spin Doctor
01-28-2010, 05:38 PM
I was just on the Quality site and it looks like Matt has three different mills of similar style. No info on specs as of yet

http://www.machinetoolonline.com/PM-MV-BenchMills.html