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Evan
01-12-2010, 04:26 PM
TV time shortens life, study suggests
Last Updated: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 | 11:04 AM ET


Australia's Heart Foundation foresees guidelines on sitting less in addition to current physical activity suggestions. (CBC)Spending more time sitting in front of the TV increases the risk of an early death from heart disease, regardless of your weight, researchers in Australia suggest.

The team followed 3,846 men and 4,954 women, average age 50, who did not have a history of cardiovascular disease.

For about seven years, researchers monitored blood pressure, cholesterol levels and TV habits.

Each hour spent sitting in front of the TV per day raised a person's risk of death from cardiovascular disease by 18 per cent and the risk of dying for all causes by 11 per cent, David Dunstan of the Baker Heart and Diabetes Institute in Victoria and his colleagues reported in Monday's online issue of the journal Circulation, published by the American Heart Association.



http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2010/01/11/tv-watching-premature-death-heart-disease.html?ref=rss&loomia_si=t0:a16:g4:r3:c0:b29761896

That is a huge increase in risk.

boslab
01-12-2010, 04:29 PM
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2010/01/11/tv-watching-premature-death-heart-disease.html?ref=rss&loomia_si=t0:a16:g4:r3:c0:b29761896

That is a huge increase in risk.
thats it i'm going to burn the telly asap, soon as the shed warms up and the beer runs out

MotorradMike
01-12-2010, 04:30 PM
18% per hour?

So in 6 hours you'd be dead? :D

I agree, kill your TV.


Mike

aboard_epsilon
01-12-2010, 04:31 PM
probably also so, for sitting in front of a monitor and posting 28,000 posts :D

ALL THE BEST.MARKJ

Evan
01-12-2010, 04:33 PM
I do that when I'm supposed to be sleeping. Doesn't count. :D

Doc Nickel
01-12-2010, 04:37 PM
It's not the TV, it's the inactivity.

That said, I haven't owned a functional television since they dropped Battlebots and tried to turn Junkyard Wars into a drama/reality show.

Doc.

Mike Nash
01-12-2010, 04:47 PM
Lasy time I turned one on at the house, there weren't any stations anymore! Oh well. I haven't missed it anyway.

Jim Shaper
01-12-2010, 04:51 PM
I wonder what the percentage is for people who over sleep?

Also, if you're in front of the boob-tube, you're not exposing yourself to the dangers of the world at large, so there's many many ways to invalidate the data's conclusion.

Looking at the ER visit thread - being in front of the tv might be safer than the alternatives. ;) I know I wish I hadn't gotten up the day I squished my toes.

RKW
01-12-2010, 05:06 PM
Let's hope so ... there is not enough natural selection occurring these days!

RKW
01-12-2010, 05:07 PM
Lack of sleep has its effects too you know ...


I do that when I'm supposed to be sleeping. Doesn't count. :D

Your Old Dog
01-12-2010, 05:17 PM
Those are bent figures no doubt. They could have just as easily of said that people that sit in a corner and and study a crack in the wall have an 18% chance of......................

If TV does anything it robs people of any semblance of creativity and needed social intercourse. Not good for a pond or person to be stagnate.

loose nut
01-12-2010, 05:22 PM
What about sitting in a chair reading a book, no different then sitting in a chair watching the tube, oops, my bad. I forgot most of you can't read.

lazlo
01-12-2010, 05:31 PM
Those are bent figures no doubt. They could have just as easily of said that people that sit in a corner and and study a crack in the wall have an 18% chance of...

Agreed, that's pretty amusing. Correlation does not imply causation.
A similar argument might be: "People who watch more than XX hours of television a week tend to have lower IQ, therefore, watching TV lowers your IQ." :p

So being sedentary increases your chance of heart disease, and since sedentary people tend to watch a lot of TV...

tyrone shewlaces
01-12-2010, 05:49 PM
OK, TV.
You & me,
uno-a-uno
mano-a-mano
It's kill or be killed.
Let's do this....
...just as soon as "Judge Judy" is over.

John Stevenson
01-12-2010, 05:56 PM
I do that when I'm supposed to be sleeping. Doesn't count. :D

You reckoned it was when you were repairing computers or was that on the twilight shift ? :D

Your Old Dog
01-12-2010, 06:04 PM
What about sitting in a chair reading a book, no different then sitting in a chair watching the tube, oops, my bad. I forgot most of you can't read.

you make an excellant point. Which one? Both :D

miker
01-12-2010, 06:46 PM
A similar study in NZ showed almost the exact opposite findings.

All that pedalling to make their TV s run keeps them healthy.:D

Evan
01-12-2010, 08:06 PM
What about sitting in a chair reading a book, no different then sitting in a chair watching the tube,...

Not so. Another study some time ago showed that watching TV uses less energy than resting on the couch, reading, sleeping or anything else you can do. Apparently the brain shuts down... :p

Black_Moons
01-12-2010, 08:10 PM
News flash: Living incresses your chance of dieing 100%!

lakeside53
01-12-2010, 08:30 PM
What about sitting in a chair reading a book, no different then sitting in a chair watching the tube, oops, my bad. I forgot most of you can't read.


Who has "tube" anymore?:D

Uh.. just upgraded to a 40 inch flatscreen:p

Doc Nickel
01-12-2010, 09:22 PM
Lack of sleep has its effects too you know ...

-Yeah, you get grumpy, irritable, short-tempered.... oh, wait...

:D

Doc.

Fasttrack
01-12-2010, 09:23 PM
Well ... it's like Erdos always said, "Television is something the Russians invented to destroy American education"

:D

Jim Shaper
01-12-2010, 09:45 PM
-Yeah, you get grumpy, irritable, short-tempered.... oh, wait...

:D

Doc.

Doc, you might be surprised to learn that sleep deprivation is a treatment for depression. You actually get loopy if you stay awake too long. ;)

Evan
01-13-2010, 04:20 AM
Agreed, that's pretty amusing. Correlation does not imply causation.


Of course. However, they make a pretty good case for a direct connection between watching televison and medical problems. Watching TV is not just a marker for cardiovascular disease. If they are correct it is an actual cause. Studies can provide correlations. Correlations cannot prove cause but they are good at providing clues to where the problem may lie.

Once you have a link you then design a study that measures actual fitness against control subjects that may be doing similar activities such as reading a book.

oldtiffie
01-13-2010, 04:37 AM
If the TV is a "boob tube" what else is a "boob tube"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boob_tube

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=boob%20tube

Its no wonder watching too much boob tube can kill ya!!

Are there worse ways to cause you to drop off the twig?

ptjw7uk
01-13-2010, 05:20 AM
I may say that bad weather has the same effect, well on me stuck in the house waiting to get back to the shop, bemoaning the fact that I never did put a wood burner in the shop!
Snow making me watch the box, now telling me its killing me, thanks!

Peter

bob308
01-13-2010, 05:36 AM
we cut or tv off 6 months ago. don't miss it . we watch movies when we have time. also the money we saved on the sattlite is now spent on books.

beanbag
01-13-2010, 06:00 AM
These days I would say the interweb is a greater ruiner of health (along with other things)

Your Old Dog
01-13-2010, 07:59 AM
we cut or tv off 6 months ago. don't miss it . we watch movies when we have time. also the money we saved on the sattlite is now spent on books.

No doubt about it, you'll get more out of a television set if you schedule what you want to watch and then turn it off. Surfing with the remote is the real danger. We did that for awhile and ended up enjoying the tv more. Sit down, turn it on, watch a specific movie and turn it off when the movie is over. It makes a difference in your enjoyment but hard to do long term without old habits coming back.

Paul Alciatore
01-13-2010, 09:38 AM
Not to worry, Bill Gates and the computer crowd are killing TV anyway. By the time they get finished, TV stations will be a thing of the past and you will have to pay for every minute you watch on your computer or other web device. So no one will be able to afford much TV anyway.

This will, of course, hit the poorest segment of the population first so they will then live the longest. Perhaps there is some social justice in the world after all.




And don't dismiss this as the rantings of an alarmist: i've been in the industry my entire career. It is happening right now. The wireless crowd is trying to take the broadcast spectrum away from free TV right now, TODAY. Both Bush and Obama are on board with this idea. The FCC is presently considering the re-allocation of the broadcast spectrum. Over the air, free TV stations are in financial trouble and are sinking fast. Five or ten years from now you will PAY for every minute of "TV" you watch. And local news will either be gone or greatly cut back to perhaps one or two bureaus per large city. Probably controlled by the liberals with no one to keep them honest. Just one more step to socialism.

lazlo
01-13-2010, 09:40 AM
These days I would say the interweb is a greater ruiner of health (along with other things)

Exactly! Time spent surfing the Internet is just as sedentary as watching TV.

So for a control study, they should measure heart disease correlated to the amount of time spent on Internet Forums :D

Evan
01-13-2010, 10:29 AM
Exactly! Time spent surfing the Internet is just as sedentary as watching TV.


That has been shown not to be the case. Any interactive activity produces a much higher level of awareness and muscle tone. In particular the muscle tone changes are the most important for maintaining good circulation in the legs and preventing such problems as deep vein thrombosis.

The problem with TV is the only interaction is pressing the remote button. I wasn't joking when I said that studies have shown that watching TV really results in a lower metabolic rate than quiet resting.



The effects of television viewing on resting energy expenditure (metabolic rate) in obese and normal-weight children were studied in a laboratory setting. Subjects were 15 obese children and 16 normal-weight children whose ages ranged from 8 to 12 years. All subjects had two measured of resting energy expenditure obtained while at rest and one measurement of energy expenditure taken while viewing television. Results indicated that metabolic rate during television viewing was significantly lower (mean decrease of 211 kcal extrapolated to a day) than during rest. Obese children tended to have a larger decrease, although this difference was not statistically significant (262 kcal/d vs 167 kcal/d, respectively). It was concluded that television viewing has a fairly profound lowering effect of metabolic rate and may be a mechanism for the relationship between obesity and amount of television viewing.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8424001

lazlo
01-13-2010, 10:35 AM
Exactly! Time spent surfing the Internet is just as sedentary as watching TV.That has been shown not to be the case. Any interactive activity produces a much higher level of awareness and muscle tone.

You get muscle tone from surfing the web? Really? :D

Dang, I guess I don't need to go to the gym anymore... :rolleyes:

Surfing the Internet is the Boob Tube of the 2000's.

Evan
01-13-2010, 10:47 AM
200 calories per day (extrapolated) is a lot. If somebody is watching a lot of TV that adds up pretty fast. I think the majority of that energy use change is in the brain. The brain can use up to 25% of all the energy the body uses based on how active it is. There is a direct connection between oxygen use, ATP mediated energy conversion and brain electrical activity. Simply reading and imagining increases the brain metabolic rate considerably. Making decisions of any kind increases the rate so surfing the web produces a much higher basal metabolic rate than passive viewing of content.

Jim Shaper
01-13-2010, 01:39 PM
I'm so glad I'm surfing the web when I'm watching tv.

Sure dodged a bullet there! :p

Mike Nash
01-13-2010, 07:04 PM
While I don't watch TV, and I definitely don't watch sports, I have watched some guys watching sports. And some of them seem to get a pretty good workout when the game is close.

lakeside53
01-13-2010, 08:56 PM
200 calories per day (extrapolated) is a lot. If somebody is watching a lot of TV that adds up pretty fast.


But.... add in two beers (or one "real beer") and the pendulum swings the other way :D

beanbag
01-13-2010, 09:22 PM
I have all 5 mouse buttons mapped, so I get a good workout web browsing.

madman
01-13-2010, 10:02 PM
I cant do 500 Arnold Crunches anymore, I also cant spank off 100 Push ups anymore either BUT TV does SUCK. Theres not much ever on BUT what do we do?? Lets go into our shopps and make weird stuff. Yeah thats the solution./

lazlo
01-13-2010, 11:36 PM
Theres not much ever on BUT what do we do?? Lets go into our shopps and make weird stuff. Yeah thats the solution./

Well said. We argue about some of the silliest things, but when it comes down to it, I think we're all here because we prefer to spent time in the shop over watching reality TV :)

Ken_Shea
01-13-2010, 11:38 PM
Well said. We argue about some of the silliest things, but when it comes down to it, I think we're all here because we prefer to spent time in the shop over watching reality TV :)

Exactly and absolutely.