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madman
03-08-2010, 02:09 PM
Well new honing tank pump hone stones all sitting in the shop. NOW have to think of a good way to filter out the Honing oil (xpensive stuff) to keep it in good shape(clean i mean) Any ideas for a home made filter system? Tomatoe can full of holes with think pink insulation inside or automotive type filters.? I think the auto filters may p[lug quite rapidly from Honing grit? Thanx Guys Mike

MuellerNick
03-08-2010, 02:19 PM
I recently bought some filter "paper". Find a dealer in your country, describe the problem and order. That's almost cheap like dirt. 400mm wide and 100m long costed less than 40.- EUR. You can make sacks on your Singer and throw them away if dirty enough.

But you need some consulting because material depends on what you want to filter and how fine. I'm using it on my cylindrical grinder for the coolant.


Nick

Oldbrock
03-08-2010, 02:54 PM
Esso have a much cheaper honing oil than Sunnen, Frequent cleaning of any kind of filter is a pain but a must. The cast iron plugs any filter quite quickly. I think, without going out to the shop, it's called Exxcut. Peter

LES A W HARRIS
03-08-2010, 03:07 PM
Well new honing tank pump hone stones all sitting in the shop. NOW have to think of a good way to filter out the Honing oil (xpensive stuff) to keep it in good shape(clean i mean) Any ideas for a home made filter system? Tomatoe can full of holes with think pink insulation inside or automotive type filters.? I think the auto filters may p[lug quite rapidly from Honing grit? Thanx Guys Mike
MM,

Long Long Ago, there used to be an oil filter one got at the auto part store, that used a roll of toilet paper as a filter. We put them in line from the pumps on our Sunnen's worked great, do not know what's out there these days.

Cheers, Les.

John Stevenson
03-08-2010, 03:13 PM
MM,

Long Long Ago, there used to be an oil filter one got at the auto part store, that used a roll of toilet paper as a filter. We put them in line from the pumps on our Sunnen's worked great, do not know what's out there these days.

Cheers, Les.

Would that be a bog standard filter ?

.

reggie_obe
03-08-2010, 03:37 PM
Look on the tptools website. The filter mentioned is sold by them as an air filter. http://www.tptools.com/p/74,110_1and2-Coalescing-Air-Filter.html

Falcon67
03-08-2010, 03:42 PM
Every honing tank I've seen in just about every hot rod shop had a dual Fram remote oil filter adapter on it with a pair of FL-1A Motorcraft filters hanging off it.

EddyCurr
03-08-2010, 04:01 PM
If media blockage is a known or suspected problem, one approach might
be to include a gravity filtering mechanism - one or more settlement tanks
in series where the working fluid flows through while particulate matter
can precipitate out.

This does not have to be fancy. A couple of 2 gal fuel containers rigged
with inlet/outlet fittings might work for a low flow rate. A conventional
filter downstream would catch the fines.

Various heads for spin-on filters are available from agricultural and hydraulic
parts suppliers. In Canada, the Princess Auto retail chain has a wide
selection. Grainger, McMaster-Carr, Northern Tool & ect are other
sources.

Any idea what size (in microns) that the honing particles will tend to be?
If so, then this would help in determining the ideal filter media to choose.

Toilet paper rolls were used in the past because they happened to fit
in the oil filter canisters and people thought it was a way of economizing.
If you are familiar with the amount of lint excreted by a TP roll, you'll
appreciate why their usage was a false savings.

.

LES A W HARRIS
03-08-2010, 07:13 PM
Would that be a bog standard filter ?

.
Absolutely!

Oh my god, "Sid had five pints of ["Offillers"] last night , don't go to the Boggs for a while".:D Memory fade, forget spelling, are they still brewing that stuff?

Haven't been back since 85.

Cheers, Les.

boslab
03-08-2010, 07:18 PM
stick a bloody big magnet in the oil, it helps
mark

aboard_epsilon
03-08-2010, 07:26 PM
Make a little wire basket and put in it coffee filters ..
This will be used to filter the water returning to the tank.

On your intake use a disposable fuel filter .this will remain mostly clean

the coffee filter will be cheap to replace easy to observe ..and can be replaced ..pardon the pun, in and instant :)

all the best.markj

ecortech
03-08-2010, 07:31 PM
Toilet paper roll type filters are still made and sold. Company's name is MotorGuard, these filters are used in many applications. Although the filter may look like a roll of toilet paper, and some people may use a roll from the outhouse, it's not the same.
These filter's are used in compressed air system's to filter and remove moisture, quite common in paint spraying, and Plasma cutting systems. They are one of the best filters made for this, many plasma companies will recommend you use only MotorGuard nothing else will do.
There are many other applications, including fuel, oil, hydraulic. etc.. google it their website will have all the info.

Ed

madman
03-08-2010, 08:09 PM
Toilet Paper doesnt it have a lot of lint so to speak? perhaps doesnt matter? I like the coffee filter idea, easy to change and cheap at the dollar store. then afterwards i can use the old ones for some shop spew OOPS i meant fresh Brew.

Bruce Griffing
03-08-2010, 08:37 PM
The toilet paper oil filters I remember are these..

http://www.frantzoil.com/TOILETPAPER.html

Very popular in the late '60's and early '70's. I remember seeing lots of them when working in gas stations. At that time, it was commonplace to check the customer's oil level. I worked in gas stations all through college and saw lots of Frantz oil filters.

LES A W HARRIS
03-08-2010, 10:05 PM
The toilet paper oil filters I remember are these..

http://www.frantzoil.com/TOILETPAPER.html

Very popular in the late '60's and early '70's. I remember seeing lots of them when working in gas stations. At that time, it was commonplace to check the customer's oil level. I worked in gas stations all through college and saw lots of Frantz oil filters.


That's the one, a roll a month/ Machine, depending on how many parts you run.

Honed soft/hard steels, aluminum & Titanium parts.

Cheers, Les.

Dawai
03-09-2010, 06:22 AM
Yeah.. if was was closer... again... Ya northern hillbilly... too ferrrr.. Duty tax is robbery also.

I took off a HUGE cannister oil filter off that TRUCK 327 chevy.. be really easy to adapt, a flat plate with a hole in it and two tapped pipe fittings.. Then you could load it with TP or fiberglass you loved so much in the wash out tank..

madman
03-09-2010, 10:39 AM
Dave i just love to itch and scratch after playing in that Fiberglass. HA HA yeah i wish i was closer Buddy. Been so busy seems doing nothing but... seem to got a lot done, making a hypoid gear set (interesting) very close tolerance (like none ) required, learning a bunch as usual (since im a dumb Northern Hillbilly HaHa.) Got honing tank going, boring table done and its awesome, fixed pile of crap old snowmobiles one had yer name on it in case you popped in and i had one for carol also to ride, Today (finally figured out how to cut my big ass aluminumn) I bought saw blades for a guy with a vertical feed bandsaw cutoff saw, I treated him nice, He said i can drag aluminumn over today and cut it up, I got a tow motor finally at the other shop to lift it onto my snowmobile trailer and then we have a powered pallet lifter at the other shop to unload, im gonna cut the chunks into 100 pound easily lifted bits for my Hub Jobs and blocks i wanna build, Lost my big cnc Mill access as that company went Bankrupt also? Anyhow im keeping busy did some wiring this morning solder heat shrink tape on trailer plug as i cut it off with my 15 horsepower snowblower i had built, I seem to be getting more stuff done since i been behaving with my old Bad Habits LOL take care Buddy Mike