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doctor demo
04-17-2010, 07:04 PM
Does any one here use Facebook ?

Steve

goose
04-17-2010, 07:14 PM
A friend of mine nagged me into signing up about 6 months ago. I occasionally sign on. Why I don't know, I swear I still don't understand it. There's this "wall" thing you can leave messages and about a million stupid "quizzes" to take. Meaningless. Don't get it.

A real estate broker/friend says he's uses it to generate leads. Sends out mass requests for new friends in his listing area. He's the type who goes around with a Bluetooth and all those other latest electronic accessories. Still, I don't get it.


Gary

Dr Stan
04-17-2010, 07:16 PM
No. I'd rather be doing something useful in the shop.

halac
04-17-2010, 07:19 PM
Yep, I use it. I've been able to re-connect with quite a few of my old friends from high school and the Air Force.

clutch
04-17-2010, 07:19 PM
Just post here when you will be gone and what you have to steal. Facebook is just too much information.

Cluch.

lenord
04-17-2010, 07:23 PM
Yes, I use it.

dp
04-17-2010, 07:27 PM
I just check my mail server log for the last three days. 270 messages with:

"so and so poked you on Facebook"
"so and so confirmed you as a friend on Face book"
"so and so tagged you on Facebook"
"so and so sent you a message on Facebook" (my personal high disbelief factor message*)
"so and so wants to be friends on Facebook"

*You get an email from Facebook telling you that you have a message, but they don't send the message.

Of the 270 messages, 200 of them went to one person. One of the Facebook mailers landed in the SpamCop DNS blacklist some days ago and all those pokes were being rejected. That made a lot of work for me as I have to go in and whitelist Facebook servers. I may lose business but I'm thinking I'm not going to put any effort into helping Facebook deliver their mail when their actions get them blacklisted.

So to answer your question - probably some here do, but I don't :)

RTPBurnsville
04-17-2010, 07:28 PM
No, I see no useful purpose when there are constructive things to spend time on. It rates on the list with TV watching...

squirrel
04-17-2010, 08:44 PM
No, I see no useful purpose when there are constructive things to spend time on. It rates on the list with TV watching...
TV watching is better than facebook and twitter, we have a twitter account and I still have not fiqured out the purpose for it. Its on par with texting......

Willy
04-17-2010, 08:53 PM
No, no spacebook for me either.
This is the only form of social networking I do. Other than this place I haven't got the time or the inclination to hob-nob with virtual friends.

I think we have a better class of people here than in the wasteland of the great unwashed.:D

Lew Hartswick
04-17-2010, 08:57 PM
I have found a good use for it. I got "sucked in" by an Air Force
Sgt in Germany with the same last name as mine looking to do a
Family Tree . So I started to search for Hartswicks and have found
a whole bunch and have e-mailed them and expanded the "connection"
by a great deal. So it does have a bit of "redeming value" . As for the
crap that shows up on my "whatever they callit", I just scan down and
ignore it. Grandaughter is in England on one of those semester abroad
things and she posts some pix and what is going on there. So that
is OK too.
...Lew...

lugnut
04-17-2010, 09:36 PM
My daughter talked me into signing up about 6 months ago. I have gotten reconnected with 7 of my old classmates from 50 years ago. And tons of old friends from my other life (working). I think it's great, BUT you must watch and be careful, the world is full of predators.
Mel

KiddZimaHater
04-17-2010, 10:16 PM
NO Facebook
NO Myspace
NO Twitter
My sister was nagging me to join Facebook so we could "Play Games" and "Chat" together online.
Sorry Sis, thanks but no thanks.
If I wanna chat, I'll pick up the phone.
If I wanna play games, I'll go to POGO.
And I definately DON'T want to re-connect with the Losers I attended High School with. BLEH......
Another problem with these accounts, is that Employers are now routinely checking peoples Myspace,Facebook,Twitter accounts.

Evan
04-17-2010, 10:45 PM
No facebook, titter, yahoo, msn, or anything else similar. I do have a page on Deviant Arts but I haven't posted anything there as yet. This is also the only forum I frequent with the very infrequent visit to PM. I don't have enough time to allocate to other similar sites. I don't even check the other forums on this BBS. Too much to try and keep track of.

RKW
04-17-2010, 10:59 PM
With the majority of answers, you are probably sorry you asked at this point.

It seems that the social networking mechanisms are primarily for children or for people with nothing better to do. I had hopes of getting back in touch with high school classmates ... most had nothing of significance to say so it ended up being a wasted effort, so I have renamed it to Farcebook and pretty much ignore it. My doubts were confirmed ...

darryl
04-17-2010, 11:36 PM
I've been trying to find a friend for some time now, and got on Facebook to see if I could track her down. So far no go, but I have connected with a couple old friends, and got some pictures from someone I've been missing for many years. I like that I can make these re-connections, but other than that it's too much. I've got someone who I don't know who wants to be my friend- huh?

Anybody here from Bracknell, England?

NBbrad
04-17-2010, 11:52 PM
Facebook is a relatively neutral tool. You can change your privacy settings and email settings to make it less annoying. If you tried Facebook and hated what people were doing/saying, the problem wasn't Facebook. It was your "friends". There's a handy block feature.

squirrel
04-18-2010, 12:03 AM
[QUOTE=
And I definately DON'T want to re-connect with the Losers I attended High School with. BLEH......
Another problem with these accounts, is that Employers are now routinely checking peoples Myspace,Facebook,Twitter accounts.[/QUOTE]

I am suprised to see you mention that about the employers, you must know some one or work some place that has bounced a few out the door for posting a pic with a joint between their lips. Its one of those things we cannot discuss because it is in the gray area when you cut some one loose, sadly it could lead to hiring them back.

aostling
04-18-2010, 12:26 AM
Facebook? No. I don't even have a cell phone yet.

lugnut
04-18-2010, 12:28 AM
So if you got a guiltly feeling or a need to hide, what the f-u-c-k are you doing on here?:confused:
Mel

dp
04-18-2010, 12:29 AM
It was your "friends".

Facebook - where blaming the victim is the norm.

In addition to Farcebook there's InkedIn, PerpetualContact, ClasslessMates, Twaddler, and MyPointlessSpace. They could all be aliases for IKnowWhereYouLive.com.

barts
04-18-2010, 12:45 AM
Sure, I use Facebook... I'm managed to connect w/ a bunch of old friends. I've never hidden my presence on the Internet since 1989...

- Bart

John Stevenson
04-18-2010, 06:04 AM
Anybody here from Bracknell, England?

I went through it about 6 months ago, any help ?

It was still there then.

.

MrDan
04-18-2010, 07:08 AM
Once you take the time to set up security, it's not too bad. When you have friends/family in remote locations, it's nice to see their pictures that you wouldn't normally see. All the games, notices, emails, etc. are a pain in the rump, however you can reduce that stuff with a little effort. There are more people on facebook than in the UK or some other alarming statistic. If must have some kind of value.

chevy3755
04-18-2010, 08:16 AM
not real crazy about it........

Boot
04-18-2010, 10:03 AM
Stay off it . My computer expert friend said it's nothing but a place to get virus', trojan horses, spyware and other harmful things for your computer. It froze my computer up and I had to have him redo the harddrive. He's had to do it for his sister at least twice and I took the hint and dropped it. It's like a virus you can't delete everything you have in it. I just quit going to it and I feel better about it now.

vpt
04-18-2010, 10:13 AM
Facebook is bad for your computer. Add ons, tracking, cookies from hell. Will slow down any puter.

Mark K
04-18-2010, 01:05 PM
The wimmin in the family all have iphones and are on Facebook. A lot of 'chat over the fence in the back yard' stuff and photo sharing, which has value when folks are out of face-range. I have finally agreed to sign up, but rarely check in and have pretty strong privacy settings. Most friend requests are ignored.

Our Mac computers have been immune to any and all cyber attacks (Lazlo? :D )

I've also agreed to accept the gift of a damn iphone. They're now nearly as small and light as my old Nokia. The text features are how the rest of the family communicates daily. As of August, one daughter will be at college and the other in South Africa. These features will help this NORAD Dad stay in touch and in command (yeah, right). That reason alone make these things of value to me.

Oh, and there is a very neat weather radar app for the iphone. I will be able to conduct weather briefings in casual conversation now. :rolleyes:

Captain Daddy

gnm109
04-18-2010, 03:31 PM
Facebook, Twitter, MySpace are all a complete waste of electrons.

By the way, have you heard that the gummint is going to archive every Twitter message ever sent? So much for privacy on the internet? Careful what you say.....


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7601281/Twitter-archive-to-be-stored-by-Library-of-Congress.html

metalmagpie
04-18-2010, 03:42 PM
Lot of ignorance showing up in these answers! I use facebook with appropriate privacy settings. I never ever use any FB app, never take any quizzes, nothing at all like that. I set my notifications quite severely. Now it basically emails me when I get a private message or when someone has friended me, that's it.

I use it a lot to invite lots of people to social events like summer BBQs. Works great for that. I also keep track of distant relatives, and, to some degree, my own children.

MM

Liger Zero
04-18-2010, 03:46 PM
I Facebook. I also use MSN to keep in touch with friends. Twitter is worthless. I also use TXT messages to keep in touch.

You do have to adapt otherwise you get left behind and you become one of "those" who complain about, curse, and oppose that which they don't understand and don't want to learn because it's "new" and "different." I can't STAND people like that.

Try it, learn it, use it and if you still don't like it fine I can dig that. ;)

rohart
04-18-2010, 05:05 PM
The only thing I use is text (SMS) messages. I call someone in my family on their mobile phone. Six rings. No answer. The company picks up the call and says leave a message. That cost me a call. So, instead, I text to say give me a ring (one day).

My old college set up a sort of mini-facebook which I did join, and it suffers from the same problem as the real thing - people you never knew wanting to be your friend. I haven't logged on to it in several months now.

I do admire the technology though, and I also like to keep a watching brief on which of the various applications are successful. I like my software plain-vanilla, and I think Google is about the first time I've found an application that I approve of becoming the dominant one.

Darryl : I'm near Bracknell, and I've a good pal (not a machinist) in Crowthorne, which is just up the road from Bracknell. What are you after ?

Black_Moons
04-18-2010, 05:27 PM
I have 0 intrest in facebook/myspace/texting/etc.
If someone wants to contact me I allready have an excessive number of ways for those who are important enough to do so. Cell phone, ICQ, msn, irc, here, mail, e-mail, etc.
And on my cell phone plan it actualy costs less for me to talk for 60 seconds then it does to recive a text message and reply to it.

lol fact about facebook/myspace/etc.
Most of it is funded by its stupid 'games' having points that you get for 'free' by doing stupid tasks like filling out a survay or IQ test... that you then have to enter your phone number or send a text message somewhere to view the results of... And that signs you up for a $19.95+ a month 'premium' text messageing service. Often mentioned somewhere on the page in 1 point font to be 'legal', or not at all as not all of them even care.

lol story about IQ tests: While they are basicly all scams and you'd have to have an IQ of less then 60 to even believe in such a simple online IQ Test, I had a friend who made his own IQ test webpage that at the end, gave out a image to copy and paste onto your webpage/facebook/whatever saying '130IQ, you are a genius!' or somesuch.
However, his webserver had a script running setup so that only the taker of the test would recive the '130IQ' image. Everyone else would see: '50IQ, completely retarded'

So everyone else would see your webpage as this:
'OMG look at how smart I am I scored super high on this IQ test!'
<img> '50IQ, completely retarded'
'I bet you guys can't beat my awsomly high IQ score!'

doctor demo
04-18-2010, 08:56 PM
You do have to adapt otherwise you get left behind and you become one of "those" who complain about, curse, and oppose that which they don't understand and don't want to learn because it's "new" and "different." I can't STAND people like that.

Try it, learn it, use it and if you still don't like it fine I can dig that. ;)
Thanks for sharing all of Your opinions, it seems as a community we are split on this.
I fought having a fax machine at work for years, I finally caved. That was back in the eighty's.
I don't text, I pick up the phone and actually talk to the person.
But this ''Face Book'' stuff is starting to infiltrate business relations and it is getting harder to ignore.
As far as ''someone finding Me'' that shouldn't ,well I'm not that hard to find. Google Earth or Maps or one of them has a nice clear picture that shows off My pool very well and You can almost tell what is in the back of My truck.
Women, for some reason really are attracted to it just like texting.
So I will bite the bullet and give it a try, I can always move and change My name.

Steve

.RC.
04-18-2010, 10:20 PM
I don't have any friends so no point me signing up... I am just not a social person, never have been....

dp
04-18-2010, 11:08 PM
Based on the mail I get, a stunning number of Facebook subscribers have no social skills and apparently few friends.

Facebook, though, is heading down the Google fast track to profit:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/3578fb70-4b14-11df-a7ff-00144feab49a.html

spope14
04-19-2010, 07:28 AM
I use it, carefully. Do not post a lot, but check on things like different golf courses and some businesses, as well as community event and action groups "posting sites". This seems to have become the cheap and easy way for a person/business to set up a web site with some security - if you choose to use it. I have regained contact with several classmates and friends I have searched for many times over the years now, great to see how we are doing, and mostly we send messages via email now, but would not have found each other through normal searches. I also post a few community-city-sports-events photos on it for others.

AND, I have blocked a few nuts. Heck, you get spam through email. AND I stay off the farmville and such.

Hey, America is a place of choices. Use it, don't, hate it love it, be careless, be careful. I am lukewarm about facebook, and use it as a tool for the most part and certainly have more in life to do but hang on the internet. I don't even get here much but for when I am ill or it is raining (it's raining today) or I have something to try to learn or share.

There is a point of common sense that only a person can have on their own. Common sense says "don't post your vacations or personal information you would not want out there anyway". Good virus programs stop the vast majority of viruses, and you can get the trojans through game sites, many off shore business sites and such anyway. Heck, the virus developers will always be ahead of the antivirus programs.

Mark K
04-19-2010, 01:31 PM
One other thing to watch for. The wimmin tend to post photos of me they find 'charming' or 'funny.' Or 'fat.' I prefer the ones (darn few. OK, one) that show me as a 'steely-eyed-killer' (sardonic military term).

It pays to watch what the opposition is up to. Or, as recommended to Sir Winston, "It pays to watch up with which the opposition is to." :D

Mark

krutch
04-19-2010, 02:54 PM
I got an invite by a friend, female, and I asked her to be sure it wasn't a scam. She sent it, so I finally got on. What a mistake! I don't want to play games. Don't have time to see what anyone else is doing. Don't care! Don't want 'friends' I've never known and don't want to know! Sure don't need the ads or info 'in or out' that is on the 'site'. I spend too much time on this site, as it is.
I must be anti-social. But that's me for ya. So I e-mailed FB and told 'em to drop my crap off and not list me anymore. Far as I know, I ain't there no more.
Krutch

malbenbut
04-19-2010, 03:44 PM
I'm not a member of facebook, I have real friends.
MBB

RB211
04-19-2010, 05:41 PM
Facebook is used to keep in touch with all your friends whom you do not live near any more, or old buddies from school. It is great, it reminds me of my friends birthdays.
It also allows people to find you that you lost contact with, either good or bad.
Facebook is bad for those who want to keep a low profile or be stealthy, and bad for those who are seeking new jobs.

wierdscience
04-19-2010, 09:46 PM
I don't even have a cell phone yet.

Thanks for that Allan,I knew I wasn't the only one:)



I have a FB account,good picture dump and I do chat with a couple friends,but that's it.

Your Old Dog
04-19-2010, 10:08 PM
I just joined facebook in the hopes of finding some old school and army friends. I left out a lot of the personal stuff they ask.

Walter
04-19-2010, 10:16 PM
None a that crap here. Hell, I even keep the home phone on "do not disturb". Phone calls go directly to answering service. I may, if I deem it necessary, allow the phone to ring on occasion, but generally not. I call back anyone that I care to and ignore all else. Messages checked at my leisure.

I carried a cell, pager, radio, radiotelephone, years back and NEVER want the hassle again. All that web crap is the same in my opinion.

Your Old Dog
04-19-2010, 10:49 PM
None a that crap here. Hell, I even keep the home phone on "do not disturb". Phone calls go directly to answering service. I may, if I deem it necessary, allow the phone to ring on occasion, but generally not. I call back anyone that I care to and ignore all else. Messages checked at my leisure.

I carried a cell, pager, radio, radiotelephone, years back and NEVER want the hassle again. All that web crap is the same in my opinion.

Sounds like you may not be a Dale Carniege How to Win Friends and Influence People graduate are you? :D

I had some dear friends in high school on the other side of the country I'd really like to get in touch with, same with some Army buddies.

sansbury
04-19-2010, 10:51 PM
Facebook is bad for those who want to keep a low profile or be stealthy, and bad for those who are seeking new jobs.

Actually a growing number of recruiters are using FB to find candidates--maybe not for corporate law or banking, but IT, nursing, media... all sorts of things. It can be good if you're careful about who you give access to what. Though, Facebook does make that confusing and too difficult.

Walter
04-19-2010, 11:25 PM
Sounds like you may not be a Dale Carniege How to Win Friends and Influence People graduate are you? :D

I had some dear friends in high school on the other side of the country I'd really like to get in touch with, same with some Army buddies.

Nope, I'm not.

Honestly I'm pretty easy going and laid back, but... I make no apologies for doing things my way. I'm still close friends with some people I grew up with, we consider each other family, they get my attention anytime. The few real friends I made over the years also get my time and attention.

Everyone else is an acquaintance, a salesman, or a bill collector. In simple terms most of them want something, generally for nothing or of lesser value. Need I say more :D

Liger Zero
04-20-2010, 01:06 AM
Was told by a lawyer that if you deny employment or fire someone because of activity on a social networking site you are setting yourself up for a severe "butthertz"-class lawsuit.

Don't know if that's true or not, but I'm not concerned. Plenty of other reasons to fire me or deny me employment beside my score on Mafia Farm or Diner Wars... :D

Kidding aside I was told that it boils down to a question of off-hours surveillance. Unless you suspected someone of stealing or selling info to the shop down the road you wouldn't have a legitimate reason to be up in an employee's private life, nor is what an employee doing in his/her off-time reasons to deny employment.

If Bob shows up every day... clean sober and on time and does his job I don't care if he goes home drinks a gallon of gin and posts pictures of himself bowling in a speedo. Doesn't affect his performance on the job nor does it affect my company.


It'll be interesting how it plays out in the courts over the coming years. I suspect Right To Privacy will win out eventually no matter what the initial rulings are.

beanbag
04-20-2010, 04:19 AM
I believe if you apply for a job that requires some level of security clearance, one of the questions they ask your friends/references is "has this person ever been drunk in public?".

Your Old Dog
04-20-2010, 07:44 AM
Well in about 11 hours time I came across two old friends I worked with 25 years ago that other friends of mine had stayed in touch with! I'm pretty happy about that !!

Willy
04-20-2010, 12:44 PM
I'm not really that wrapped up in the clandestine security evasion issue, that's why I don't have a problem with having my location listed. Hell, between credit card transactions, government dealings, and having my name, address, and phone # listed in thousands of phone books, I'm sure my security has been compromised already. Anybody,worldwide, can punch my name into a computer and see exactly where I live or how much property tax I pay.
But I'm retired, don't lead a high profile or safety sensitive life anymore so I don't really give a rat's ass.

But for those that don't feel like me, and I'm sure there are for good reason lots, there are more and more employers that are turning to various ways to track your internet activities. Below is a link to just one of the new invasions to one's privacy coming your way.

Social Sentry (http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/social_sentry_track_employees_across_the_web.php)

But in addition to this, maybe I'm missing something by not being a social networking proponent. As I stated in my previous post, I don't have the time or inclination to hang out with "virtual friends". I have lots of real friends already that I happily and generously share time with. And if I want I can share photos, giggles, or whatever through email with anyone, anytime.
If I really want to talk to someone and I don't have the option to do it face to face, which is really my preference, I'll pick up that wonderful invention from way back in 1875, the telephone!
People in their haste for following new technologies have forgotten something as beautiful as the sound and inflection from a loved one's voice.
But then I'm set in my ways, maybe I'm missing something.:rolleyes:

oldtiffie
04-20-2010, 07:00 PM
My impressions of the HSM-er Facebook, texting et al:
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa294/oldtiffie/Funnies/Texting1.jpg

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa294/oldtiffie/Funnies/Modern_man1.jpg

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa294/oldtiffie/Funnies/Twitterbird1.jpg

All I need is a mobile phone - just to make, and on occasion, to receive phone calls only of my choosing. Other than that my mobile (here in OZ) - aka "cell" (USA) phone stays off. Anyone else can leave a message by PM (here), email (anyone else) or answering feature on the house phone.

Mark K
04-20-2010, 08:16 PM
I wish I could rejoin you guys in digital exile. But, as long as a family member is not home, I keep the phone with me....everywhere. It's my gift to them for all those years of flying and not being home. The Call comes rarely, but it's just great to number one on their list for getting stuff done 24/7.

When my oldest was away as a college freshman, she got sick on a Friday afternoon, first hospital would not treat her (wrong Protestant faith!!). She's feeling crappier by the minute and not up to driving around Memphis looking for help. She calls Dad, who gets online and finds a nearby clinic, calls to confirm she'll be accepted, and calls daughter back with directions thereto.

They all know I've got their backs and this is one way to show it.

Mark

Teenage_Machinist
04-20-2010, 09:42 PM
I have real friends, and I find Facebook useful. Many of the clubs at my school use it for communications and co-ordination. I use it to learn the names of people who I'm embarrassed to ask because I should know their names. I use it to co-ordinate homework help sometimes, get assignments if I was absent, etc. My friends put up photo albums from dances, etc. Quite useful.

"all that web crap" is something I find rather ridiculous. I find twitter a bit weird, but more than that I find disdain for new technologys mainly due to unfamiliarness. Like complaints about autos.

However, some people post dumb stuff on facebook, or waste time (guilty). I don't use it all that much.


It also helps counteract the lack of face to face contact caused by living in this clichéicly boring suburb.

If you don't want to get turned down for a job, don't post incriminating stuff! I dont.

I am not paranoid about people hearing things I say. Caution is advised and it's not like there aren't also face-to-face stuff being monitored, or phones, email, etc. I'm not afraid.

snowman
04-20-2010, 10:06 PM
I use it a lot. It's the only way my family keeps in touch. My brother is in Cali, my parents live four hours from me, the rest of the fam is all over the place. I work 2nd shift. My productive time is during the day, and I go to school all week. It's honestly the only way I communicate with a lot of people in my life between visits. I am busy, they are busy...and I despise the telephone.

I also use it to communicate with people from work, know current happenings there that aren't important enough to get emailed, and know what's going on with different groups I'm involved in (both school and recreational)

It's like email, without any thought of it being secure.

Frankly, I don't buy the whole "your work can spy on you" crap. If my work is that serious about their interest in my personal life, I'll not likely be working for them for long....nor will any of the other employees they have (based upon some of the things posted).

spkrman15
04-20-2010, 10:39 PM
I use facebook. I like it alot. Easy way to share pictures of my family and see what is up with some buddies. I tracked down an old friend with who i lost contact. A happy moment. Made my year. Seriously.

Rob :)

oldtiffie
04-21-2010, 08:56 PM
All you frequent, frantic frenetic texters and text-message users are in good company (from one of our "Daily" papers here in OZ:

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa294/oldtiffie/Funnies/Texting2.jpg


United States
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In the United States, text messaging is also popular; as reported by CTIA, the average number of text messages sent per subscriber per month was 188.[16] In the U.S., SMS is often charged both at the sender and at the destination, but, unlike phone calls, it cannot be rejected or dismissed. The reasons for lower uptake than other countries are varied—many users have unlimited "mobile-to-mobile" minutes, high monthly minute allotments, or unlimited service. Moreover, push to talk services offer the instant connectivity of SMS and are typically unlimited. Furthermore, the integration between competing providers and technologies necessary for cross-network text messaging has only been available recently. Some providers originally charged extra to enable use of text, further reducing its usefulness and appeal. The relative popularity of e-mail-based devices such as the BlackBerry in North America may be a response to the weakness of text messaging there, but these further weaken the appeal of texting among the users most likely to use it.[citation needed] However, the addition of AT&T-powered SMS voting on the television program American Idol has introduced many Americans to SMS, and usage is on the rise.[citation needed] In the third quarter of 2006, at least 12 billion text messages crossed AT&T's network, up almost 15 percent from the preceding quarter.

In the United States, while texting is widely popular among the ages of 13–22 years old, it is increasing among adults and business users as well. The age that a child receives his/her first cell phone has also decreased, making text messaging a very popular way of communication for all ages. According to both the Mobile Marketing Association and Pew Internet & American Life Project Surveys, 80% of U.S. Mobile phone users text.[citation needed] The split by age group is as follows: 13–27: 87% text; 15–37: 73% text; 28–39: 44% text; 40–49: 18% text. The amount of texts being sent in the United States has gone up over the years as the price has gone down to an average of $0.10 per text sent and received. Many providers also will make unlimited texting available for a lower price.

In order to convince more customers to include text messaging plans some major cell phone providers have recently increased the price to send and receive text messages from $.15 to $.20 per message.[17][18] This is over $1,300 per megabyte.[19]
from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_messaging

I will stick to having my mobile/cell phone with me - but switched off - when I am out of the property with my wife. I only turn it on when I am away on my own so that she can ring me (never has to - but its there - just in case). I refuse to leave it on for the convenience of others who all know to leave a message on the answering service on the house land-line phone or to send an email to my computer. I answer emails and PM's and the like - when and if I choose to.

I have no problem or concerns about how others may or may not use it but they damn soon hear about it if they tell me I need to do it so that I "can keep in touch" - or more likely, "be there" to listen to their trivia which can usually wait until later. Its no surprise that the vast majority of those "urgent" matters just fade away if they need to wait and ring or email me.

A.K. Boomer
04-21-2010, 09:52 PM
I don't Text, im not "on" facebook and im not a twitt-er
Getting burned out on what people do nowadays, - If I want to connect with someone from the past I will hunt them down - the past is the past -------- talking to a young lady (by good ole fashioned E-mail) I thought i was interested in and then she calls me one of her "peeps" and asks me if im "on" facebook...
I got your peep right here sweetheart ------- That was our last conversation...

Ahhh the information age --- something like more information gets exchanged now in 1 minute or one hour or day or something like that - than in the entire history keeping of information that mankind has kept pre- 1900's
difference being is back then they talked/documented/recorded/wrote stuff down that was actually usable ---- instead of the 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of useless crap that we use it for today,,,

hang up and drive idiot - save a life other than your own pathetic existence - nobody gives a crap about your hernia operation,
Why don't you try spending some more time with your kid who youve trained to be on his/her phone 12 hours a day.
And all you ugly looking women who are grocery shopping with open toe shoes and cant help but talk on your "celly" about your toe nail fungus ------- try to realize there are other people out there trying to buy food without having to throw-up.

It seems we have a world of people who are afraid to be alone with their own thoughts (probably cuz they don't have any) - insecure little worms.

It's kinda a cruel irony theve found out that every time you use one of those things a little cancer seed sprouts in your head -- I mean, the very thing you should have been using (your brain) ends up getting destroyed...


Get a life people - or get the hell off my planet. losers...

Not burned out on information - burned out on what we call information.
(tattoo mike would be proud of me):p

oldtiffie
04-21-2010, 11:12 PM
Hi AK.

Same here.

I can do without other peoples conversations - especially when they are load and intrusive. I seriously don't like them being used at all - especially hand-held in a motor vehicle. I don'ty like them being used - loudly - in a restaurant, (food court in a shopping mall etc.) and/or in waiting rooms etc.

I can only guess at how low some people's self-esteem is or how big their egos are.

I seriously set about making damned sure that I am not "that" important that I have to be incessantly calling or being called.

I don't like distractions when I am working or relaxing.

There are no phones or TV or radios or computers in my shop. There will be a computer when I eventually get around to CNC-ing my X3 mill - but I will be at the mill when it is running - other than that if the computer is left running the screen is turned off.

I have no problem with the technology per se but its OK in its place - which is not in my face.

I check all of my email on my ISP's server. If it is $hit it gets deleted there. I only down-load emails that I want on my computer.

"twitter" and "twittering" reminds my both of:
"twit" aka pecker-head etc:
http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&ei=A73PS6LQH4rY7AOp-LS9DQ&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&ved=0CA0QBSgA&q=pecker+head&spell=1&fp=2dbf891d07dcd0a2

and

and "twittering":
http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&q=twitter&meta=&aq=0&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=twit&gs_rfai=&fp=2dbf891d07dcd0a2


The shopping malls are a PITA as soon as the high school kids get out of school - especially but not only the girls - their "chattering" and "texting" on their mobile/cell phones never stops!!! And some of the "older adults" (15+) are not much better.

I have thought about getting a mobile/cell phone "jammer" (say out to 10 metres/30 feet) and turning it on it on in the "Food Court" (Shopping Mall) and waiting rooms - crowded trains etc. as well as at traffic/cat intersections as well - the chaos, bedlam and panic would be a sight to see:
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/cell-phone-jammer.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_jammer

http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&source=hp&q=cell+phone+blocker+jammer&meta=&aq=1&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=cell+phone+block&gs_rfai=&fp=68502c4a20a36bb1

Willy
04-22-2010, 12:33 AM
I have thought about getting a mobile/cell phone "jammer" (say out to 10 metres/30 feet) and turning it on it on in the "Food Court" (Shopping Mall) and waiting rooms - crowded trains etc. as well as at traffic/cat intersections as well - the chaos, bedlam and panic would be a sight to see:


Good one Tiffie!
Exactly my sentiments. I have recently been very close to pulling the trigger on purchasing a jammer myself.
The last incident just about sealed the deal.

Not long ago while accompanying relatives of the departed at a funeral service, some idiot, (who is I guess is too damned important to miss a call) had his cell/mobile go off, right during the service!
To add insult to injury, after the service I took these people to a nice quite restaurant in order to spend some consoling moments with them.
Just my luck, the waitress puts some gasbag next to us that was on the phone constantly, apparently he must have been calling long distance as he felt the need to shout out his conversation for all to hear. Self-centered assholes!

oldtiffie
04-22-2010, 06:18 AM
I'm not really that wrapped up in the clandestine security evasion issue, that's why I don't have a problem with having my location listed. Hell, between credit card transactions, government dealings, and having my name, address, and phone # listed in thousands of phone books, I'm sure my security has been compromised already. Anybody,worldwide, can punch my name into a computer and see exactly where I live or how much property tax I pay.
But I'm retired, don't lead a high profile or safety sensitive life anymore so I don't really give a rat's ass.

But for those that don't feel like me, and I'm sure there are for good reason lots, there are more and more employers that are turning to various ways to track your internet activities. Below is a link to just one of the new invasions to one's privacy coming your way.

Social Sentry (http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/social_sentry_track_employees_across_the_web.php)

But in addition to this, maybe I'm missing something by not being a social networking proponent. As I stated in my previous post, I don't have the time or inclination to hang out with "virtual friends". I have lots of real friends already that I happily and generously share time with. And if I want I can share photos, giggles, or whatever through email with anyone, anytime.
If I really want to talk to someone and I don't have the option to do it face to face, which is really my preference, I'll pick up that wonderful invention from way back in 1875, the telephone!
People in their haste for following new technologies have forgotten something as beautiful as the sound and inflection from a loved one's voice.
But then I'm set in my ways, maybe I'm missing something.:rolleyes:
Willy,

you are right on the mark there too.


If I really want to talk to someone and I don't have the option to do it face to face, which is really my preference, I'll pick up that wonderful invention from way back in 1875, the telephone!
People in their haste for following new technologies have forgotten something as beautiful as the sound and inflection from a loved one's voice.
But then I'm set in my ways, maybe I'm missing something.

If I really want to know what someone thinks or what their real attitude is - or perhaps just to check my instincts - I will do as advised by an old friend years ago.

After I had received or sent an email or after I've seen and spoken to them in person, I will wait until I think they may be a bit less guarded and not in my company and I will ring them up. I can pick up voice tones and inflections that can be more informative than body language. Its no so much what is said but rather what is or may not be said or the way it is or is not said with or without the inflections etc. that is important in "building a picture".

If needs be I will go and see him in his shop or office and "take out" or reduce his psychological "home" advantage and either get or reduce his confidence.

I don't have to do it too often but when its needed and used properly it works a lot more often than not.

It does require personal contact - either on the phone or in person.

It does work to a lesser extent by email - but not in a "texting" environment.

I found that out in the days of real "texting" - using *.txt files in a DOS and 300/1100 modem environment on BBS's using "Kermit" and similar protocols.

I ring (land line) most of the people I do or need to "get on" with and speak to them personally if I can't actually get off my ar$e and physically go and see and talk to them. It works really well keeping many others PITA's away or at bay too.

All I want is a mobile/cell phone that makes or takes phone calls - and bugger all else. My old "Nokia" 5110 - a great "real" phone - "died" and I could not find a "phone calls only" phone to replace it, so I had to get a new one and put up with and navigate through all of the non-needed other "bells and whistles" to use it as a bloody phone.

I really don't know how people can afford or justify some of the mobile/cell "phones" and costs associated with them.

I am very wary of anyone whose only "address" is a mobile/cell phone in a car or the back of a truck - or a vacant lot or factory etc. - where there is no physical address - other than a lawyer or Accounts office. If they don't have a land-line phone where they live and work (from) or a damned good reason for neither needing or having them, they are on my "no-no" list.

They are regarded as not unlike "shell" or $2 "companies".

I am NOT impressed with some people's use and abuse of "FaceBook" and its ilk and especially any unwanted or unwarranted intrusion into my privacy.

Others may think and act differently as is their right.

John Stevenson
04-22-2010, 07:36 AM
Just my luck, the waitress puts some gasbag next to us that was on the phone constantly, apparently he must have been calling long distance as he felt the need to shout out his conversation for all to hear. Self-centered assholes!

I had that once in a restaurant, got fed up of it so every time he asked a question I shouted back an insane answer.
Everyone in the restaurant was laughing and when he stopped the call and walked out every one clapped.

.

Your Old Dog
04-22-2010, 07:56 AM
Someday I hope to have the cajoles to answer a fake phone call in a restaurant and shout into it while some jerk as you describe is showing off with his phone. Sort of like the comedian Bob Newhart used to do. It would go something like this:

"Yea John, speak up will ya. Some butthole is on the phone next to me and talking so loud I can't hear myself think!..................Yea I know John but if I shoved his head up his brown spot I won't want to eat and I've already ordered my meal........................Yea, you're right, if I shoved the phone up his arse he'd have other things to do besides annoying the rest of us with his personal life."

A.K. Boomer
04-22-2010, 08:46 AM
I could definitely see SJ doing that,

when the celly craze first hit not everyone had one so I actually thought that some of these people might be "important" in some way, then just by taking a look at them (and their general lack of hygiene) I came to the conclusion that there's no possible way that they could be "important" in any way shape or form,
so then - being the fair person of judgment that I am I thought to myself that maybe they were talking to someone "important" --- but now over the years of having to listen to countless "conversations" my conclusion is this - most of these people are absolute sloths and aren't "important" at all but whats even more disturbing to me (and hard to imagine) is that there's actually a lesser life form on the other end of that line who's is actually listening to all this crap, good god I wonder what they look like (and how much they weigh) :rolleyes:

Were going down folks - we as a nation are going down...

Ken_Shea
04-22-2010, 09:11 AM
Thanks for that Allan,I knew I wasn't the only one:)



I have a FB account,good picture dump and I do chat with a couple friends,but that's it.

No cell phone here either, so there's at least three of us.

oldtiffie
04-22-2010, 09:15 AM
Thanks AK.

Good points.

I am not all that sure that some of those "offenders" either have their phone turned on or that there is anyone on the "other end" at all.

My other concern is that those parents who are interested enough to see or over-see what their kids are doing on the home computer - or even the lap-top, may not be able to be aware of what their kids are doing or receiving on their cell phone given all the communications features those phones have.

I don't see how employers can do much about the phone activities of staff/employees either during "working hours" or off them either.

A.K. Boomer
04-22-2010, 09:51 AM
Tiffer I read a study a while back, they had some way of "tracking" who was really actually connected as they walked bye with some kind of device - it was in a major city, it was something in the 30% range of the people who where just pretending ------------------- ? If this was even close WTF is a matter with people!

you brought up children, almost every time I go for a bike ride I take this route to go out of town, it leads me by this house with a swingset and a slide in the side/front area, here's this little girl who cant be but 12 and she walks back and forth in her yard wearing cloths that a 20 year old should not be wearing while making all these gestures whilst talking on her celly, She see's you coming and really puts on a show for you, sometimes Mom's out on the front porch smoking a ciggie,

How freakin sad, this little girls going to wind up dead or a prostitute in a year or two, don't tell me to report it, its all around us and its out there for everyone to see...

Weston Bye
04-22-2010, 11:36 AM
Someday I hope to have the cajoles to answer a fake phone call in a restaurant and shout into it while some jerk as you describe is showing off with his phone. Sort of like the comedian Bob Newhart used to do. It would go something like this:

"Yea John, speak up will ya. Some butthole is on the phone next to me and talking so loud I can't hear myself think!..................Yea I know John but if I shoved his head up his brown spot I won't want to eat and I've already ordered my meal........................Yea, you're right, if I shoved the phone up his arse he'd have other things to do besides annoying the rest of us with his personal life."

Reminds me of a true story:
My boss, (mfg. manager) and the purchasing manager and myself had to travel to visit a vendor. As soon as we got in the car, both of them, in the front seat, deployed cell phones and started checking voicemails, blah, blah, blah, etc. Sitting alone in the back seat, I feigned dialing on my cell phone, after a suitable pause I said, loud enough to be heard up front, in a husky voice "what're you wearing?"

Brought them back to reality and everyone had a good laugh.

Liger Zero
04-22-2010, 12:39 PM
Prehaps a hand-held porto-jammer or squealer device is in order. Not something that would disrupt communications for everyone, but just powerful enough to force someone to lose their connection.

Oh yeah that's illegal so don't get caught doing it... but oh man how many times have I wished I had one. :D

KiloBravo
04-22-2010, 02:09 PM
Only time I ever use Twitter is to follow NASA launches. It is nice to know what is going on when you are outside looking for the rocket. Especially when they cancel it or move the launch time.

EddyCurr
04-22-2010, 03:40 PM
... you must watch and be careful, the world is full of predators.
Careful, shmareful ...

Despite the admonishments of their elders, youth rush to reveal
so much about themselves.

GPS features in phones that report their location in real time is a
current fad that marketers are eager to profit from.


Millennials happily post exact whereabouts (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/your-business/grow/mia-wedgbury/millennials-happily-post-exact-whereabouts/article1542986/)
By Mia Wedgbury
Globe & Mail 2010.04.22

Using the GPS features on many smartphones, developers
have created community-based apps that capture a user's
location and shares it with their followers on social networks.
Think reviews are only for food critics or film buffs? Using
applications such as Foursquare (http://foursquare.com/) or Gowalla (http://gowalla.com/), users can push
geography-based information out to the web, and include
tips or suggestions on where to eat or shop in a particular
neighbourhood.

Many businesses have already jumped on these platforms
as an opportunity to share their deals or tips with users who
are venturing to spaces close to their location. Think of the
implications. Never before, for example, has a business been
able to pro-actively engage with unsatisfied customers or
build influencer lists based on who is regularly “checking-in”
to their location.

.

mochinist
04-22-2010, 05:10 PM
Careful, shmareful ...

Despite the admonishments of their elders, youth rush to reveal
so much about themselves.

GPS features in phones that report their location in real time is a
current fad that marketers are eager to profit from.

.I dont know if it is still an issue, but when the Iphone first came out, there were quite a few people(mostly teenage girls and boys) getting their personal info posted around the net (name, address, etc)because their pictures taken with their phone contained gps data from where the picture was taken in the exif data that most people don't even realize is contained in the digital photos. Doesnt seem like a big deal until 4chan gets involved, then anon will make someones life hell.



As for Facebook, I have one, its cool to see photos and sometimes updates on distant relatives that I don't see so much anymore, I have also found a few friends that I had lost touch with over the years. I think I have a total of 60 something facebook "friends", I deny most people unless they are family or were actual friends at some point in life. I also follow my favorite microbreweries that have facebook pages to see what seasonal brews and events they are having. I have all that stupid farmville and related crap blocked so no dealing with that.

One other thing , I know all of you that have facebook pages have at least one friend on there that feels the need to update constantly about what they are doing("my kid has the sniffles" "drank to much last night" etc), I have a couple on there that do that and I get a real kick out of responding with a simple message. NO ONE CARES Most of them don't get to offended:)

laddy
04-22-2010, 05:59 PM
I am older than 14. Why would I want to hear from somebody that has ignored me for the past 60 years.

oldtiffie
04-24-2010, 12:06 AM
I am older than 14. Why would I want to hear from somebody that has ignored me for the past 60 years.

Ditto - or that I have ignored etc. for 60m years - or even less - a lot less.

I saw these in this week-ends media "offerings" that seemed topical, so I resurrected this thread and posted items which came in this week-end with the media "offerings":

Me - to a "T" - I hope:

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa294/oldtiffie/Funnies/Ringtone1.jpg

And something that may concern some and see what their assessed worth is to others perhaps - its about all you are worth in recoverable metals etc. if/when you are "melted down":


1.5 million stolen Facebook IDs up for sale
A hacker named Kirllos is offering to sell the accounts in an underground forum for 2.5 cents per account
By Robert McMillan | IDG News Service
Share or Email| Print | 1 comment| 20 Recommendations A hacker named Kirllos has a rare deal for anyone who wants to spam, steal, or scam on Facebook: an unprecedented number of user accounts offered at rock-bottom prices.

Researchers at VeriSign's iDefense group recently spotted Kirllos selling Facebook user names and passwords in an underground hacker forum, but what really caught their attention was the volume of credentials he had for sale: 1.5 million accounts.

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IDefense doesn't know if Kirllos' accounts are legitimate, and Facebook didn't respond to messages Thursday seeking comment. If they are legitimate, he has the account information of about one in every 300 Facebook users. His asking price varies from $25 to $45 per 1,000 accounts, depending on the number of contacts each user has.


To date, Kirllos seems to have sold close to 700,000 accounts, according to VeriSign Director of Cyber Intelligence Rick Howard.

Hackers have been selling stolen social-networking credentials for a while -- VeriSign has seen a brisk trade in names and passwords for Russia's VKontakte, for example. But now the trend is to go after global targets such as Facebook, Howard said.

Facebook has more than 400 million users worldwide, many of whom fall victim to scams each day. In one such scam, criminals send out messages from a compromised account, telling friends that the account's owner is trapped in a foreign country and needs money to get home.

In another, they send Web links that lead to malicious software, telling friends that it's a hilarious or sensationalistic video.

"People will follow it because they believe it was a friend that told them to go to this link," said Randy Abrams, director of technical education with security vendor Eset. Once the malware gets installed, criminals can steal more passwords, break into bank accounts, or simply use the computers to send spam or launch distributed denial of service attacks. "There's just a plethora of things that people can do if they can trick people into installing their software," he said.

Kirllos' Facebook prices are extremely cheap compared to what others are charging. In its most recent Internet Security Threat Report, Symantec found that email usernames and passwords typically went for between $1 to $20 per account -- Kirllos wants as little as $0.025 per Facebook account. More coveted credit card or bank account details can go for much more, ranging between $0.85 to $30 for credit card numbers to $15 to $850 for top-quality online bank accounts.

from:
http://www.infoworld.com/d/the-industry-standard/15-million-stolen-facebook-ids-sale-645?source=IFWNLE_nlt_wrapup_2010-04-23

Now - just how vulnerable are you and what is your net worth? (ie on the "net")?

I thought you'd like to know.