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ulav8r
04-29-2010, 11:51 AM
I have a 2007 Mitsubishi Raider, which was built by Dodge. Autozone's reader indicated the camshaft position sensor was malfunctioning. The guy told me he had worked at the local Dodge dealer that is now closed and that often the actual problem was the crankshaft sensor or loose/dirty wiring connections. He told me about where the sensor is located (right side of block about 2/3 way back from front). I would like a link to a manual or diagram that shows some detail before I start pulling wires. Autozone has the sensors but I did not price them. Can anyone help?

Edited typos.

Dr Stan
04-29-2010, 11:59 AM
I'd check with Autozone to see if they have a Haynes, or similar, shop manual.

saltmine
04-29-2010, 01:50 PM
That's a pretty common MIL code on the Dodge.

I think I read somewhere that the ECU requires a re-flash with new updated software, instead of a new cam position sensor.

ulav8r
04-30-2010, 01:49 PM
Thanks for the replies. I looked this morning but did not find the connector to the sensor.

Dr Stan
04-30-2010, 03:54 PM
I have a 2007 Dodge Dakota which came with a lifetime drive train warranty. If you have the same warranty I'd take it to the dealer.

You may also want to take a look here:

http://www.justanswer.com/questions/24nng-i-already-have-the-camshaft-position-sensor-for-replacement

saltmine
04-30-2010, 04:17 PM
I donno. When I worked for a Chrysler dealer, a "lifetime Warranty" meant "if you bring it in with a problem, they shoot you"

Dr Stan
04-30-2010, 06:16 PM
I donno. When I worked for a Chrysler dealer, a "lifetime Warranty" meant "if you bring it in with a problem, they shoot you"

I'll keep that in mind if the need arises. I can always take a couple of friends along. One is named Smith and the other is Wesson. :D

biometrics
05-02-2010, 10:24 AM
It takes a few turns to get there, but Try this link:

http://www.oplin.org/databases/proxy/proxy.php?qurl=http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?profile=srck5

Enter the Library card number 23456789 in the top entry box, then...

Use the pull-down and pick "Public Library of Cincinati and Hamilton Counties"

...and the result will be a "KID SEARCH" page...

then take the link that says "search other databases"

When the other database page appears, take the link to the "Auto Repair Reference Center" (ARRC)

...Then make the choices for the year of your car/truck

Then the make / model / engine size

Unfortunately, because it is relatively new, all they have at the current time for your Raider is listings of service bulletins, and wiring diagrams, but that may be what you need. This database has helped me numerous times to repair my vehicles myself...

I hope it can help you and other members of the forum.

Good Luck. -John

ulav8r
05-02-2010, 06:36 PM
After following all the directions, I got to the diagrams. Though they might be useful for some things, there were none that showed the connections to engine sensors. Even if they had shown those, there would have been nothing to indicate the location of the sensors.

When I got under the truck, I found one sensor connection just above the oil pan on the right side at the front. The only other connection on that side of the block appeared to be a ground connection. The one at the front might have been the crankshaft position sensor, but I don't know. Found it odd that the block was two pieces, the lower piece being about 3 inches thick between the oilpan and the main block.

Willy
05-02-2010, 08:57 PM
The engine block incorporates what is called a bed plate to act as reenforcement for the lower block/crankshaft area. This is the 3" section that you are referring to.

Here are a couple of pics from a 2003 Dodge truck shop manual showing the crankshaft position sensor location.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/250willy/crankpositionsensor.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/250willy/CKPremoval.jpg

Sorry I didn't catch your thread earlier, sounds like you are on the right trail though if you are at the right rear of the block.

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PTSideshow
05-03-2010, 06:09 AM
Here's one of the better dodge forums (http://www.dodgetalk.com/)
It took some looking but I have found the info for a couple of things that I needed

ulav8r
05-03-2010, 12:09 PM
Thanks Willy and PT, I onlt know a little about engines and usually need details to get where I need to be.

Dr Stan
05-09-2010, 04:37 PM
I found a link to the almost 6000 page Dodge Dealer's Dakota manual. Go Here: http://dodgeforum.com/forum/3rd-gen-dakota/229059-2005-6-7-dakota-service-manual.html

winchman
05-09-2010, 07:57 PM
"...a "lifetime Warranty" meant "if you bring it in with a problem, they shoot you."

Not true!! That would entail them actually doing something.

They just stall and delay until you get so frustrated that you shoot yourself.

saltmine
05-09-2010, 11:25 PM
Right Winchman.....I almost forgot that part.

My Service manager's favorite saying when I worked at a Dodge dealer was,"We all need to work together."

Translated: "We expect you to work for free."


Reminds me of a "Low Rider" magazine published in Los Angeles, when I lived over there.

The editors sent me a "Lifetime Subscription".....it ran out in six months.