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jb-mck
06-28-2010, 09:41 PM
I just received Ivan Law's book on Gears and Gear Cutting. It has been a true test of my patience and endurance to finally get this book. I tried to purchased a used copy through a very prominate internet book seller and was screwed in the deal. I allege that the 3rd party was unhappy with the selling price so he just kept the book and now I'm going through the throws with the CC company getting reimbursed. My allegations come from the fact that he has the same book listed now with a substancially higher price. Basterd! In reward for my patience, I found a copy on ebay which the seller promptly shipped.

Evan
06-28-2010, 10:21 PM
You can buy all of the workshop practise series including that book from Busy Bee Tools in Canada. While they don't ship tools to the USA they will probably ship books as they are in the category of printed matter and not dutiable.

http://busybeetools.ca/cgi-bin/product10?&NTDESC=books

RKW
06-28-2010, 10:35 PM
Nope, it clearly states "Please note: WE DO NOT SHIP OUTSIDE CANADA" once the item is in the shopping cart.

Deja Vu
06-28-2010, 10:45 PM
I've never even seen the cover of that book.

Did the parcel arrive? Was it well used?....or did it seem to be a seldom used reference that still retained a "newlike" condition?

You know, I've heard on HSM here that it is customary to accompany a gloat with visual enhancements.;)

PTSideshow
06-28-2010, 10:52 PM
Here you go one of the largest used book dealers on the net at good prices (http://www.powells.com/s?kw=Gears+and+Gear+cutting)
They generally have those books and the ones on steam from Tee and Nexus publishing new.

They are great to deal with fast service, I have been dealing with them for years.

Laws book is currently out of stock, it is the last one on the bottom of the scroll down.

Used Book world wide search (http://used.addall.com/)
New book world wide search (http://www.addall.com/)
World catalog of books (http://worldcat.org/) your local library may be a member.
:D

Ken_Shea
06-28-2010, 11:49 PM
For others looking, Amazon.com is where I got that book about 8-9 months ago.

Unfortunately, they have doubled in price as I recall, just no dang excuse for that.:mad:

lazlo
06-29-2010, 12:40 AM
For others looking, Amazon.com is where I got that book about 8-9 months ago.

When you find the Tee Publishing book on Amazon, click the "other buying options" and compare the prices. I've bought all my Workshop Practice books through a British seller who ships them direct via Royal Air Mail, which is really cheap, and the book prices are way cheaper than Powell's or Amazon's price.

Circlip
06-29-2010, 02:42 AM
And some clever barstich has put that and many other titles from the workshop practice series on a Rapidshare site.

Regards Ian.

dp
06-29-2010, 02:47 AM
I just received Ivan Law's book on Gears and Gear Cutting.

It is one of two machinist books on my night stand. I really like that book. It touches lightly on everything needed for an HSM hobbyist guy like me.

uncle pete
06-29-2010, 02:55 AM
It's a great book and after reading it you'll never look at any gear the same way again.

Pete

alanganes
06-29-2010, 11:31 AM
These guys list the whole series for sale also. I've not ordered from them myself, though.

http://www.blueridgeshoponline.com/category.sc?categoryId=3

Evan
06-29-2010, 02:37 PM
I spoke to BB Tools this am and they tell me that they will be shipping to the US by the end of the year.

MuellerNick
06-29-2010, 02:53 PM
Also a good source where I get most of my second hand books from ist: www.zvab.com
They started as Germany-centric, but now serve the whole world. This is not a single company, but a platform where used book dealers list their inventory.

I never had any problem with any of them! Maybe they kick him out if you complay about a dealer.


But you have to compare prices and be patient if you are looking for a special book.

Edit:
Oh, wait a minute, maybe they don't have that many English titles?


Nick

jb-mck
06-29-2010, 03:20 PM
I'm glad to know there are so many other (recommended) book sellers on the net. I buy many books each year and given my recent problems with Amazon, I will be looking for a new vendor.

On the ebay book I bought, the thing was brand new in the package. I did notice however that the graphic on the cover is not the same graphic as seen on other sites. I wonder if there was a cover change when it was re-printed. The book I have looks like this:
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/jb-mck/Bv3Y2NwEGkKGrHqViMEv10CvSYBMGUykvpo.jpg

rohart
06-29-2010, 03:35 PM
Looks like you've got an older edition. The newer ones have what I regard as very boring B&W graphics on the front. I doubt if the text gets updated in the later editions, although I've never compared.

I'd say you're lucky to have the full colour cover.

uncle pete
06-29-2010, 03:38 PM
Tee Publishing in the U.K. have these books and a huge ammount more that's interesting. Shipping is expensive but if you order a fair ammount it makes it worth while. The books are a lot cheaper from them even with the shipping. Camden books is another in the U.K. I've ordered many times from both of these companys and am very saisfied. You have been warned tho, If you visit their web sites your credit card is going to get a work out.

Pete

MuellerNick
06-29-2010, 03:45 PM
Camden books is another in the U.K.

Camden books is great, yes! Good selection (but too much trains for me). But I never managed to buy books for less than 100.- :o

Nick

uncle pete
06-29-2010, 03:56 PM
Nick,
Would agree about the too much trains, Tee publishing is the same. Just about the time I figure I've got the majority of the titles that interest me somebody always starts publishing new titles. On a side note, Both Tee and Camden carry quite a few of the books put out by Lindsay in the U.S. Obviously it's cheaper for those of us in North America to order those direct from Lindsay.

Pete

Errol Groff
06-29-2010, 09:14 PM
After seeing the link to Blue Ridge Machinery in alanganes' post I went to their site and ordered a copy of the Gear book. $32.00 including shipping vs the Amazon price of $150!

I know that Blue Ridge has been around for a long time so I hope to get the book in short order. Patience is not one of my strong suits when waiting for mail order.

http://www.blueridgeshoponline.com/

Errol Groff

Dan Dubeau
06-29-2010, 09:38 PM
I've noticed these books before in busy bee before, but never really gave them a second look. Any other books in the series worth taking a look at besides the gear cutting one?

Evan
06-29-2010, 10:55 PM
The Heat Treating and Hardening book is excellent. Regardless of what your interest is in metalworking it is something you should know how to do. It includes very accurately rendered colour charts for estimating the temperature of glowing hot metal.

uncle pete
06-29-2010, 11:01 PM
Dan,
The book about threading, It's no. 3 in the series. "SCREWCUTTING IN THE LATHE", by Martin Cleeve. ISBN 0 85242 838 3 Huge ammount of info, Probably more info than you even want to know about screwcutting.

Pete

MuellerNick
06-30-2010, 02:55 AM
I do have some out of that series, but the electroplating book is really good I think.


Nick

brozier
06-30-2010, 04:29 AM
As a newbie model engineer. (well I was last year!):)

I found these two :
"Milling a Complete course"
"Lathework a complete course" both by Harold Hall to be very helpful.

"Soldering and Brazing" is a really good in depth coverage of the subject too.

Cheers
Bryan

uncle pete
06-30-2010, 10:19 AM
While not in the workshop series of books, Try "The Model Engineers Workshop Manual" by George H. Thomas. Without a doubt it's my favorite book about machining. His other one about building the UPT and a dividing head is real good too.

Pete

Spin Doctor
06-30-2010, 11:12 AM
'll most likely order one off of Amazon to go with my copy of "14,000 Gear Ratios" I can't wait to see how that one turns out :rolleyes:

lazlo
06-30-2010, 12:06 PM
After seeing the link to Blue Ridge Machinery in alanganes' post I went to their site and ordered a copy of the Gear book. $32.00 including shipping vs the Amazon price of $150!

Holy Cow! Why did the price of that one book (Gears & Gearcutting) go through the roof! I paid $12 plus $3 shipping two years ago.

Most of the other Workshop Practice Books are ~ $20:

http://www.amazon.com/Milling-Complete-Course-Workshop-Practice/dp/1854862324/ref=pd_sim_b_5

RKW
06-30-2010, 12:24 PM
Notice that is for sale by "sellers" on Amazon and not them directly. When some folks get involved in selling things through Amazon or ebay they can ask ridiculous prices just hoping for that one fool to stumble on it and just pay it. Five minutes or less of searching can usually turn up a better deal on just about everything anymore.


Holy Cow! Why did the price of that one book (Gears & Gearcutting) go through the roof! I paid $12 plus $3 shipping two years ago.

Most of the other Workshop Practice Books are ~ $20:

http://www.amazon.com/Milling-Complete-Course-Workshop-Practice/dp/1854862324/ref=pd_sim_b_5