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dont61760
07-27-2010, 07:59 AM
I know nothing of gunsmithing. That said can anyone tell me how to repair a broken firing pin? I have an old 22 JC Higgins model 30 I used as a kid and would like to give it to my Grandson. Problem is the firing pin is broken off. It's only .094 dia and something broke it in the past. Will brazing or soldering hold on such a small diameter peice or should I try to turn a new one? I've checked the parts sources and can't find a new one. Could I turn a new one out of drill rod and harden it? I can't afford to spend a lot on it but would really like to see him shooting it.
terry_g
07-27-2010, 09:16 AM
Hi dont61760
Could you post a picture? I don't think brazing or soldering would be a reliable fix. Making one from drill rod and tempering it would probably be the best bet.
Terry
biometrics
07-27-2010, 09:55 AM
Dry firing (empty chamber) is probably what broke the original pin.
If it is the correct length, it probably doesn't even need to be hardened if you make it out of drill rod, with the possible exception of the sear notch.
The only job it has is to crush the brass .22 rim fast enough to set off the cartridge. Not much resistance to the impact by steel on a .22 brass case. I would turn a new one... try it, and see if it starts to mushroom after a couple of boxes... it would probably take thousands of rounds to make it do so... if it ever will.
rolland
07-27-2010, 01:25 PM
check with http://www.gunpartscorp.com/
Rusty Marlin
07-27-2010, 01:51 PM
make it from O1 and oil quench and temper. Draw it back at as hot as your home oven will get.
Set your firing pin protusion to a max of .042" and it should not contact the breech face. (but measure to be sure and make the firing pin a couple thousanths shorter than the head space dim.)
Forestgnome
07-27-2010, 02:43 PM
Also make sure it's rounded nicely and polished, as an improper shape can pierce the brass.
JanvanSaane
07-27-2010, 04:41 PM
Do a search on utube for MidwayUSA, Larry Potterfield made a good video on how to make one. Jan
smiller6912
07-27-2010, 08:25 PM
If it is simple to turn a new one, make it out of drill rod, harden it and draw back to blue (spring).
If it would be a pain to replicate, make a replacement tip only, same as above materials and 2.5 times longer than needed, grind the old pin down to flush, and drill a snug hole at least as deep as your projected new tip will be centered on the old pin location, silver solder the new tip into the old drilled out body, grind to length (being sure to "hemisphere" the final end, no sharp edges). I love this way, it's simple and seams to last quite well, I haven't got one back yet.. (knock on wood)
BigBoy1
07-28-2010, 07:35 AM
I have an old 22 JC Higgins model 30 I used as a kid and would like to give it to my Grandson.
The J.C. Higgins brand was made for Sears by other gun manufacturers so by looking at the original makers guns, you may find a firing pin. I have looked in my gun smithing cross reference books and can not find a J.C. Higgins Model 30. There is Model 20 and Model 36 but no Model 30. Do you have the correct information?
moe1942
07-28-2010, 08:58 AM
If it is simple to turn a new one, make it out of drill rod, harden it and draw back to blue (spring).
If it would be a pain to replicate, make a replacement tip only, same as above materials and 2.5 times longer than needed, grind the old pin down to flush, and drill a snug hole at least as deep as your projected new tip will be centered on the old pin location, silver solder the new tip into the old drilled out body, grind to length (being sure to "hemisphere" the final end, no sharp edges). I love this way, it's simple and seams to last quite well, I haven't got one back yet.. (knock on wood)
This is the way I would do it. Same method I use to replace pivots in gear arbors.
dont61760
07-28-2010, 08:57 PM
The J.C. Higgins brand was made for Sears by other gun manufacturers so by looking at the original makers guns, you may find a firing pin. I have looked in my gun smithing cross reference books and can not find a J.C. Higgins Model 30. There is Model 20 and Model 36 but no Model 30. Do you have the correct information?
It is a model 30. They were made by Hi Standard for sears. gunparts had the extractor and spring I needed but no firing pin. They did have a pin for some other models but at $20 a pop I can't afford to take a chance. It won't be easy to make but I think I can use a post grinder to get the small diameter. Thought I would rough it down with a carbide tool and finish with the grinder. I appreciate all the help very much.
wooleybooger
07-29-2010, 09:32 PM
i was going to ask if it was flat or round but yours seems to be round. i made a flat one out of o-1 flat stock by coating both sides with dichem and scribing around the old one. i mounted it in a 4-jaw using 2-jaws on my atlas 6" lathe. i had to use both the toolpost grinder and an attachment i made to fit my dremel tool to my milling attachment for lenghtwise cuts but it came out real nice. took a lot of time but what the heck is time when you waste it in the shop? if you can turn it close do that but grind it to finished size and check dims often. you can do it.
floyd
12-15-2010, 06:35 PM
Go to NUMRICK, they list a firing pin for your model 30. About 25 bucks.
Yeah. Go to Numrich - AKA Gunparts Corp. Part #346730A - $23.80
floyd
12-17-2010, 01:39 PM
Yeah. Go to Numrich - AKA Gunparts Corp. Part #346730A - $23.80
Sorry, I misspelled it. Go to Numrich Gun Parts.
patc221
12-18-2010, 12:51 PM
I know nothing of gunsmithing. That said can anyone tell me how to repair a broken firing pin? I have an old 22 JC Higgins model 30 I used as a kid and would like to give it to my Grandson. Problem is the firing pin is broken off. It's only .094 dia and something broke it in the past. Will brazing or soldering hold on such a small diameter peice or should I try to turn a new one? I've checked the parts sources and can't find a new one. Could I turn a new one out of drill rod and harden it? I can't afford to spend a lot on it but would really like to see him shooting it.
If it were me I would build it up with a oxy/acet torch using an old mag spring out of a 45 mag for the rod and file and grind it down to get it back to length
Pat
mf205i
12-18-2010, 09:25 PM
If you are reluctant to get real involved in materials and heat-treating and it is a simple firing pin, just turn one from a grade 8 bolt. A tad soft for your part but still machinable with HSS, tough, free, and will probable outlast the both of you.
Mike