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Tony Ennis
08-15-2010, 08:57 PM
My birthday is coming up - I'm looking for generally useful tools.

There's this:

combo disk and belt sander (http://www.harborfreight.com/6-inch-x-48-inch-belt-and-9-inch-disc-combination-sander-6852.html)

which if it will accept disks and belts suitable for metalworking looks interesting.

And there's also the tried-and-true horizontal bandsaw (http://www.harborfreight.com/horizontal-vertical-metal-cutting-bandsaw-93762.html)...

Or a little drill press (http://www.harborfreight.com/heavy-duty-16-speed-bench-drill-press-38142.html).

My current tools include a typical bench grinder and a old lathe that barely works :D

Any other suggestions?

doctor demo
08-15-2010, 09:32 PM
My birthday is coming up - I'm looking for generally useful tools.

Any other suggestions?

You hinting at wanting a Birthday present? If so it would be a good idea to post a location. I'm not shipping a machine across the Country.

Steve:)

Tony Ennis
08-15-2010, 09:51 PM
No, I'm hinting I'm going to buy myself something, likely at an importer of barely adequate Chicom goodness!

boslab
08-15-2010, 10:07 PM
resist, no seriously, everyone does make fun of the cheap crap, but it does give you the oppertunity to learn, all be it the hard way, and when you do get some tidy iron oh it feels great, i had a really crappy small mill, then i got the chance to get a cincinatti toolmaster from work, my missus went bonkers as it was in the middle of the drive!, she knows i'm a bit batty so she only asked that i move it, right now, oops the car wont fit in the garage anymore.
when you first stick a 6" cutter in somthing like that and take a cut on a nice lump of steel to reveal shiny shiny flatness its great.
Good luck, i hope you have a long and satisfying affair with iron, i have and its the best thing since sliced bread.
mark

Mcgyver
08-15-2010, 10:23 PM
if you're prioritizing, probably the bandsaw but the drill press is a close second. True, you could hacksaw everything but you might not last until your next birthday and you can drill holes with the lathe

wierdscience
08-15-2010, 10:26 PM
Bandsaw,a servicable machine even from HF,the belt sand and dp pictured are crappy.

Toolguy
08-15-2010, 10:31 PM
Get the bandsaw. Every project you do starts with cutting off a piece of something.

Greebe
08-15-2010, 10:38 PM
I will second or third the bandsaw. You will wonder how you got by without it once you have one in your shop. They are great at saving time and your arm. Just do yourself a favor and buy the bi-metal blades, the standard metal ones will burn up in a few hefty cuts and end up costing you more in the long run.

tmc_31
08-15-2010, 11:02 PM
Tony,

Another vote for the bandsaw, they are really handy around the shop.

What kind of lathe do you have? You say it is crappy, how come? Will it make chips? Pictures man!!

Instead of a drill press, you might want to consider a small (or large) horizontal mill. They are very versatile and can be pressed into service as a very accurate drill press in a pinch:D

Tim

A.K. Boomer
08-15-2010, 11:42 PM
No, I'm hinting I'm going to buy myself something, likely at an importer of barely adequate Chicom goodness!



What does that mean "Chicom"? Is it Chinese Commercial ?

KiddZimaHater
08-16-2010, 12:28 AM
No shop is complete, unless you have one of these:
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http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o152/wavedudetx/lathe/ToolBox/IMG_2338.jpg

kyfho
08-16-2010, 12:39 AM
OK KiddZimaHater,

I'll bite. WHAT IS IT?

becksmachine
08-16-2010, 04:37 AM
My birthday is coming up - I'm looking for generally useful tools.

There's this:

combo disk and belt sander (http://www.harborfreight.com/6-inch-x-48-inch-belt-and-9-inch-disc-combination-sander-6852.html)

which if it will accept disks and belts suitable for metalworking looks interesting.

And there's also the tried-and-true horizontal bandsaw (http://www.harborfreight.com/horizontal-vertical-metal-cutting-bandsaw-93762.html)...

Or a little drill press (http://www.harborfreight.com/heavy-duty-16-speed-bench-drill-press-38142.html).

My current tools include a typical bench grinder and a old lathe that barely works :D

Any other suggestions?

Not a comment on quality or lack thereof, but the link to that belt/disc sander lists a disc rpm of 1720 which makes the grinding a real grind, especially with a 9 inch disc.

I don't know what the belt fpm is on the belt/disc sander that I have had for 15 years, but I am fairly certain that the 12" disc is running at 3450 rpm. It is a direct drive off the motor shaft, one side for the belt, the other for the disc. I know they were available in both 1750 rpm and 3450 rpm and the slower ones were a real dog.

It is a little down on power for sharpening a 2" or 3" twist drill, being a Harbor Freight variety, but I guess I got lucky as I haven't yet let any/all of the magic smoke out yet. ;)

Dave

KiddZimaHater
08-16-2010, 07:28 AM
I'll bite. WHAT IS IT?
You need to read the post, "What is this?"- by Wavedude :D

lazlo
08-16-2010, 08:34 AM
I would suggest the drill press first and hacksaw until you have enough money for a horizontal bandsaw.

Forget the belt sander: when you eventually get a belt grinder, you'll want a 2" belt anyway.

The drill press situation these days is pretty sad: you're going to find the same Chinese drill presses at Harbor Freight, Sears, Lowes, Home Depot...

firbikrhd1
08-16-2010, 10:23 AM
I agree with lazlo's submission that the drill press selection today isn't very good. Why not buy a Mill Drill and kill two birds with one stone? Although I don't have one, I have often thought that a mill drill would be many times better than not so great drill press. It could be used as a drill press regularly and as a back up mill should I ever need it.