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Your Old Dog
10-02-2010, 05:48 PM
Just got a metal detector a few weeks ago for the heck of it. Was goofing around in the yard and coughed this up. It is about 5/8's in diameter and appears to be hand struck only the printing is throwing me a curve at only .070 tall. How could they have printed that accurately in the days when they were hand striking coins. It weighs like silver, and not aluminum. My guess, it's some kind of commemorative but for what. A Google picture search of Roman and Greek coinage reveals nothing like it? Any help would be appreciated.


http://inlinethumb53.webshots.com/17524/2094457140102651310S600x600Q85.jpg (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2094457140102651310ASoAwi)

A magnate does not attract it.

http://inlinethumb26.webshots.com/34009/2611575670102651310S600x600Q85.jpg (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2611575670102651310PgCRFI)

John Stevenson
10-02-2010, 06:01 PM
http://inlinethumb26.webshots.com/34009/2611575670102651310S600x600Q85.jpg (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2611575670102651310PgCRFI)

Looks like Evan and Nick fighting over a bearing heater.

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Your Old Dog
10-02-2010, 06:05 PM
John I thought your hiatus might do you some good. I know it sure did me a lot of good :D

John Stevenson
10-02-2010, 06:08 PM
One does ones best.

rohart
10-02-2010, 06:27 PM
First character looks Greek, or possibly Cyrillic. Discounting the possibility that the USA was in fact occupied by the Russians before the Europeans got there, it looks like the 1360 Olympic Games was held in Manhattan.

Your Old Dog
10-02-2010, 06:58 PM
First character looks Greek, or possibly Cyrillic. Discounting the possibility that the USA was in fact occupied by the Russians before the Europeans got there, it looks like the 1360 Olympic Games was held in Manhattan.

I'm embarrassed to say I almost took the bait! I'm a little dense sometimes, put a " :D " after your post when you're jerking my chain !

Toolguy
10-02-2010, 07:18 PM
It looks like the javelin throw and wrestling. Probably Olympic or sports related.

BigBoy1
10-02-2010, 07:25 PM
It appears as though the coin was plated and the plating is coming off. To me this says a modern coin. Coins were usually made from solid material, not plated.

MaxHeadRoom
10-02-2010, 07:31 PM
I have found that dropping in at the local museum will answer the question, They're usually pretty obliging.
This was a nice one!
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2009/09/24/2009-09-24_larget_anglosaxon_.html
Max.

winchman
10-02-2010, 07:37 PM
It's much like this one here:

http://www.akropoliscoins.com/page2.html

http://www.akropoliscoins.com/Aspendos.gif

dp
10-02-2010, 08:29 PM
http://numismatics.org/html/exhibits/FullCircle/index.html

http://numismatics.org/dnid/numismatics.org:1968.57.128

A.K. Boomer
10-02-2010, 09:12 PM
Damn YOD --- that's some cool stuff - hope its worth a bundle so you can buy a real bike:p

hey -- what the hell are those guys doing to each other anyways:eek:

Mike Burdick
10-02-2010, 09:37 PM
Okay YOD come clean...

Your wife told you to spade up the yard so you copied a photo of a valuable roman coin off the 'net and posted that you found it in your yard. So...tomorrow morning when she gets the morning paper, your yard will be completely dug up. Right?

Arcane
10-03-2010, 12:09 AM
Sorta looks like this one. (from www.forumancientcoins.com)
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/Coins2/28066q00.jpg

Selge, Pisidia, c. 300 - 190 B.C.
SH28066. Silver stater, SNG BN 1936, SNG Cop -, SNG Von Aulock -, BMC -, EF, minor flan defects on rev, Selge mint, weight 10.747g, maximum diameter 25.5mm, die axis 0o, c. 300 - 190 B.C.; obverse two wrestlers, the left one grabs the wrist and forearm of his opponent, ΑΛΙ between their legs; reverse ΣΕΛΓΕΩΝ on left, Herakles standing half-left, head turned right, club in raised right, lion-skin in left, O between legs; $1900.00

Also from that site:
Question :
How can I tell if an ancient coin is real?

Answer :
All coins purchased from Forum Ancient Coins have been authenticated by our expert staff and are guaranteed for eternity. We do not offer authentication services for coins purchased from other dealers.

For free opinions based on a photograph or scan, join our discussion board and post a photo. Forum's staff may give an opinion if we have time. Many of the board members are experts and will give their opinions. Sometimes it is easy to authenticate or condemn a coin from a photo, sometimes it isn't possible at all. The discussion board is here: http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php

Why not head over there and ask them what they think of it? :)

Evan
10-03-2010, 12:22 AM
What you have is probably a modern replica of this coin. Maybe from the Franklin Mint or similar. In that case it's worth about 2 cents.

http://ixian.ca/pics7/coin.jpg

Note that when the say "the most collectable" they mean the cheapest. I have an indian head nickel worth that much. They must have made a zillion of those coins to be that low priced. If it is an actual original it might be worth $50 because of the condition.

A.K. Boomer
10-03-2010, 05:16 AM
No matter how many they made I think it's amazing something that old could sell for that cheap, BC? --- come on that's amazing.

I think that one guy is cutting the head off of medusa --- but he got scared and is squeezing out a poop...

MuellerNick
10-03-2010, 05:51 AM
Maybe this (http://www.acsearch.info/index.html) helps?


Nick

beanbag
10-03-2010, 05:51 AM
Maybe YOD has real Greek coins, back when Greece and Old York were part of the same pangea. Then plate techtonics split the two countries apart.

A.K. Boomer
10-03-2010, 06:15 AM
Maybe this (http://www.acsearch.info/index.html) helps?


Nick



Great - now we have the beastiality coin becuz someone porked a cow,
Can't be a greek coin because of the sodomy factor...

No coin expert here, just showing off some of my deductive reasoning skills...

John Stevenson
10-03-2010, 06:15 AM
Okay YOD come clean...

Your wife told you to spade up the yard so you copied a photo of a valuable roman coin off the 'net and posted that you found it in your yard. So...tomorrow morning when she gets the morning paper, your yard will be completely dug up. Right?

Old Ronnie Barker gag from the TV series Porridge [ UK slang for doing time ]

His wife writes him to say she needs to dig the garden to plant potatoes but the ground is too hard.
Ronnie writes back "Don't dig anywhere near the shed at the bottom "

Next week she writes that the police turned up and dug up the garden all over, what is she to do?

Ronnie writes back

"Now plant the potatoes "

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MuellerNick
10-03-2010, 06:29 AM
Can't be a greek coin because of the sodomy factor...

That would be another reason for it to be Greek.
Gay sodomy would make it 100% :D


Nick

Evan
10-03-2010, 08:08 AM
The one I posted is the exact same coin.

Your Old Dog
10-03-2010, 08:40 AM
.......................................

hey -- what the hell are those guys doing to each other anyways:eek:

Must have had a rice burner contest and they're just boning up.


Thanks guys, I've spent hours and looked at a lot of pics and nothing even close. The stuff you guys found was far more on target.

The one post said the ones that were silver plated were worth $1900? How the hell did they silver plate? Also noted that some of the coins they were showing did have fine printing on them, they weren't all crude. How the hell did they print that accurately at that size? This still ain't ringing right for me?

And of course, it begs the question...
How the hell did it find it's way to my backyard?

Thanks Evan. I saw your post but chose to ignore it as you said it might be worth 2 cents . You might be right but I choose to look at it like a lottery ticet whose number has not been called yet :D I'm starting to think about buying a new Harley with it!

gwilson
10-03-2010, 09:31 AM
1. Sodomy is shown on ancient Greek ceramics.

2. electroplating apparently was known to the ancients. Crude batteries have been dug up.

A.K. Boomer
10-03-2010, 10:21 AM
That would be another reason for it to be Greek.
Gay sodomy would make it 100% :D


Nick


Nick you missed it --- in order for there to be a human head on a cow there would have to be reproduction - you can't end up with a human head on a cow in Greece due to the sodomy factor --- therefore the coin can't be greek.


YOD - your rice burner comment was totally inappropriate - but funny,

expect retaliation when you least expect it :p

John Stevenson
10-03-2010, 10:35 AM
Thanks Evan. I saw your post but chose to ignore it as you said it might be worth 2 cents . You might be right but I choose to look at it like a lottery ticket whose number has not been called yet :D I'm starting to think about buying a new Harley with it!

Is that all they are worth ? :eek:

QSIMDO
10-03-2010, 11:33 AM
And of course, it begs the question...
How the hell did it find it's way to my backyard?


They took the Mass. turnpike of course.
It's been around since then and for many years was paved with cobbles.
;)

Evan
10-03-2010, 11:46 AM
It was dropped by some kid playing with dad's coin collection. The Franklin Mint sells this stuff all the time. While they don't currently have that coin for sale these are very similar replicas from the same era for $69.95 (way overpriced).

http://ixian.ca/pics7/fm.jpg

http://www.franklinmint.com/King-Azes-II-Drachm-Widows-Mite-Coin-Set-of-2--P9841.aspx

A.K. Boomer
10-03-2010, 11:54 AM
Evan are you sure that one in the upper left hand side isn't just a melted raisinette or maybe even a goober?

Your Old Dog
10-03-2010, 12:29 PM
John, Foxcreek Bomber motorcycle jacket - $500.00
Foxcreek lined winter chaps - $279.00
Cheep Fullmer motorcycle helmet - $79.00
Bug Remover Juice for windshield and teeth $8.79
The thrill of 1300cc's of pure raw unadulterated power surging between you legs as you roll on the throttle and fight to hang on - priceless ;)


Evan, you may be right in that the wording that I cannot quite make out may say Franklin. I supposed if they were to make something like this they'd have to identify some way to keep from being charged with forgery? So, if Franklin Mint had a limited run of these limited to everyone on the planet who wanted one at the time for $69.00 then this one might be worth a fortune...........................cookie

Thanks for the cold wet towel in the face Evan!

Evan
10-03-2010, 01:26 PM
There is no issue of forgery. They may put a very small mint mark on it somewhere but even that isn't necessary. Since it isn't legal tender anywhere anymore they can copy it all they like. Take such a copy to a coin dealer and he will tell you where you got it the moment he sees it.

Go to some of the best art museums in the world and you will find young artists learning how to paint by sitting by one of the great master's works and copying them faithfully. It's common practice and forgery isn't an issue. Some of these copies from the past are so good that they carry thier own high value as copies.

A.K. Boomer
10-03-2010, 01:59 PM
John, Foxcreek Bomber motorcycle jacket - $500.00
Foxcreek lined winter chaps - $279.00
Cheep Fullmer motorcycle helmet - $79.00
Bug Remover Juice for windshield and teeth $8.79
The thrill of 1300cc's of pure raw unadulterated power surging between you legs as you roll on the throttle and fight to hang on - priceless ;)




More like "the disappointment of 1300 de-tuned wet fart cc's with moped like acceleration as you simultaneously soil yourself whilst oil is leaking on your foxcreek lined leather chaps" not priceless ---------- Very expensive....


YOD -- just for future reference --- don't tell anybody you have "foxcreek lined leather chaps"...

John Stevenson
10-03-2010, 03:17 PM
YOD -- just for future reference --- don't tell anybody you have "foxcreek lined leather chaps"...

Or better still put it in your sig line.........