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Polygon
11-22-2010, 08:37 AM
Well, its time for a new level. I'm not sure which one to get. I do some grinding and light machining, but don't want to get a small level or used one etiher. I mostly want it to check set-ups. Any brand name suggestions?

PixMan
11-22-2010, 09:58 AM
Starrett No.98-6 is one of the best all-around levels there is. The No.199 Master Precision series is more accurate out of the box, but if you take your time you can really dial-in a No.98 to be very close to perfect. I have one, and love it.

recoilless
11-22-2010, 10:11 AM
X2...about $100 or so and money well spent

Polygon
11-22-2010, 10:19 AM
Thanks for the suggestions, I was leaning towards Starrett. recoil, where do you get the X2?

Your Old Dog
11-22-2010, 10:23 AM
ROFLAMO :D .

Reminds me of when a bunch of ham operators were having a hen party and one mentioned that we were going back to Daylight Savings Time and he asked what we were supposed to do with the GMT time!

Not picking on you Polygon! X2 means he agrees with what the other guy said and not that there is a level called a X2. ! Thanks for the chuckle!

PixMan
11-22-2010, 10:25 AM
I think with the "X2" he just means that he also thinks the Starrett No.98 is a good bargain and excellent tool.

Starrett makes them in 4", 6", 8", 12" and 18" lengths.

Polygon
11-22-2010, 11:15 AM
Ahhhhhh! rookie forum member mistake i guess, my bad, and a good chuckle here too.

macona
11-22-2010, 04:57 PM
I picked up a real nice Swiss made Brown & Sharpe off ebay a couple years ago for $50. This is a step above a standard machinists level though.

MotorradMike
11-22-2010, 05:11 PM
Ahhhhhh! rookie forum member mistake i guess, my bad, and a good chuckle here too.

HaHa

Not your bad.
He should have said +1

Lew Hartswick
11-22-2010, 05:26 PM
HaHa

Not your bad.
He should have said +1
How about: " ditto" ? :-)

or if you realy want to save keystrokes, "
...lew...

AllThumbz
11-22-2010, 07:40 PM
+1 on the Starrett 98-6 or 8 (I have the 8). Got mine at LittleMachineShop for under $100 during a sale.

Black_Moons
11-22-2010, 08:42 PM
I only use Starrett +2 levels.

Or sometimes, my Starrett +3 Against Poor measurement techniques level.

J/k, I really use a Chinese -1 level.

oldtiffie
11-22-2010, 09:19 PM
For any level - Starrett included - make sure it is "zero-ed in" when you get it and certainly before you use it.

Learn how to set a level up accurately and correctly and check it periodically and before you use it.

A longer level can be too long at times and a PITA.

I have an 8" level and if needs be I use it in conjunction with very good parallel strips to suit the occasion.

I use "rougher" levels to get the job into the zone of the "Starrett" and then change over to my "Starrett". My "rougher" levels are Carpenters/Builders levels that have a fully-machined extruded box-section and have an accuracy of 0.50mm/1,000mm ie 1;2.000 = 5 "tenths" per inch = 0.028 degrees = 1.72 arc minutes.

Waiting for a "good/fine" level to "settle" can seem like for-ever.

jkilroy
11-22-2010, 10:09 PM
I have the afore mentioned No. 98 in 12" length, its great. I use it level machines mostly, which I 'touch up' every now and then as they seem to move around over time.

oldtiffie
11-22-2010, 10:28 PM
Here is the OP:


Well, its time for a new level. I'm not sure which one to get. I do some grinding and light machining, but don't want to get a small level or used one etiher. I mostly want it to check set-ups. Any brand name suggestions?

For the OP - a question.

Just what sort of set-ups do you want to check?

The Starrett referred to is excellent as regards setting stuff in a horizontal plane - but not much else.

I have a machine square which is as accurate as the Starrett but it will check for square/vertical as well:
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa294/oldtiffie/measuring/Machinist_Square2.jpg

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa294/oldtiffie/measuring/Machinist_Square1.jpg

Here is the resolution of my levels:
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa294/oldtiffie/Precision_grinding/Wheelbalance2.jpg

and used for my surface grinder balancing hubs:
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa294/oldtiffie/Precision_grinding/Wheelbalance1.jpg

recoilless
11-22-2010, 11:09 PM
Thanks for the suggestions, I was leaning towards Starrett. recoil, where do you get the X2?

I believe from Travers or Enco a while back, they are always on sale somewhere





As posted:

X2=what he said=I agree=ditto

Don't feel bad, I've used cheat sheets to uncode some of the acronyms flying around the web.

jacmarhal
11-23-2010, 01:02 AM
I picked up a real nice Swiss made Brown & Sharpe off ebay a couple years ago for $50. This is a step above a standard machinists level though.


Just out of curiosity, what makes this level a step above?