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mike4
12-09-2010, 10:40 PM
Does anyone in the US know if the security on outbound freight has been increased lately as I have some parts coming from Chicago which the USPS site says was processed at 4-40 pm on Dec6 2010 and they dont seem to have moved since then .
I contacted Australia Post and got told that there were delays on items leaving the States due to increased security checks on items flying from the airports now .

Thanks in advance.

Michael

lazlo
12-09-2010, 10:49 PM
Heh. I sent an item the other way -- to Australia, about 3 weeks ago (during Evan's Chinese letter rant) and it still hasn't shown up either.

I'm guessing the world's custom's agents are carefully picking through mail, looking for printer cartridges.

Evan
12-09-2010, 10:52 PM
I can't imagine why they would care about items leaving the US.

x39
12-09-2010, 10:53 PM
I contacted Australia Post and got told that there were delays on items leaving the States due to increased security checks on items flying from the airports now .
Al-Qaeda scores again.

lazlo
12-09-2010, 11:04 PM
I can't imagine why they would care about items leaving the US.

I'm presuming that Canadian/Australian,... customs doesn't differentiate based on country of origin, unless it's from a black-listed country.

On the other hand, the package I sent to McGyver on the same day got to him in a week and a half. Go figure.

.RC.
12-09-2010, 11:19 PM
I had an item posted on the 20th november and it arrived here last week...

The A-380 debacle has slowed freight combined with the high AU dollar and christmas..

It will arrive but the timeframe will be longer then normal...

chriskat
12-09-2010, 11:41 PM
I sent a package to my son day before yesterday and UPS asked for a photo ID. First time they've ever done that, I've never understood why that would increase security.

My experience using the USPS web site to try and track shipments, at least domestically in the US, is that they show picked up. The shipment arrives at it's destination, then it shows delivered. Not much in between. I don't know about international though.

ADGO_Racing
12-09-2010, 11:49 PM
I can't imagine why they would care about items leaving the US.

Because it would be WRONG for us, to start sending bombs TO the muslim world and terrorizing THEM.

914Wilhelm
12-10-2010, 01:43 AM
I can't imagine why they would care about items leaving the US.

God forbid there might be some bad people living in the U.S.A. who would be happy to reek havoc on any airplane.
Oh wait! I forgot, there are no bad people. Only people who do bad things.

Evan
12-10-2010, 02:30 AM
I just received a memory chip from OldGuy (thanks!) from the US and it arrived in good order (with customs declaration) and in a reasonable time.

mike4
12-10-2010, 04:12 AM
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I sent a package to my son day before yesterday and UPS asked for a photo ID. First time they've ever done that, I've never understood why that would increase security.

My experience using the USPS web site to try and track shipments, at least domestically in the US, is that they show picked up. The shipment arrives at it's destination, then it shows delivered. Not much in between. I don't know about international though.

Previous parcels could be tracked from when the sender lodged the item for posting and then the next was that it had cleared US Customs , then left the US , arrived in Australia into customs the when delivered.

This one has left the processing centre in Chicago and nothing after that.

I suppose that the job will have to wait until nearly Christmas Day for it to be completed .
Michael

Evan
12-10-2010, 10:09 AM
That sounds very similar to the problem I found here. Only after I complained to the Minister in charge of the Canadian post office did it change. The tracking system was actually broken and after the complaint it somehow changed to show more detail and everything began to arrive. When I went in to pick up three different parcels the girls at the private post office said they were suddenly swamped by a huge number of incoming parcels.

Richard-TX
12-10-2010, 11:02 AM
What AL Queda has failed to do, our Governments have succeeded in doing.

mike os
12-10-2010, 11:58 AM
...this is the purpose of such tactics;)

jugs
12-10-2010, 11:59 AM
What AL Queda has failed to do, our Governments have succeeded in doing.

I maybe an old cynic, but I've always thought we have more to fear from governments than terrorists. :mad:

john
:)

lazlo
12-10-2010, 12:03 PM
Previous parcels could be tracked from when the sender lodged the item for posting and then the next was that it had cleared US Customs , then left the US , arrived in Australia into customs the when delivered.

This one has left the processing centre in Chicago and nothing after that.

That's exactly what I'm seeing with my package to Australia: the USPS tracking information says it got to the Chicago clearing facility 2 days after I sent it (November 16), and there hasn't been any updates since.

They're just little accessory arms for measuring grooves, so it wouldn't look or feel ominous...

Rustybolt
12-10-2010, 01:22 PM
If you shipped it UPS then it is in their Rockford facility. Which is a central hub for pretty much all of N. America.

ADGO_Racing
12-10-2010, 01:44 PM
I maybe an old cynic, but I've always thought we have more to fear from governments than terrorists. :mad:

john
:)

x2
You are not alone......

RB211
12-10-2010, 01:57 PM
Airport security is a farce. If I wanted to, I could go take any one of my former employers airplanes, sitting out there on the ramp. The same codes on the same locks they use system wide, that never change...

ADGO_Racing
12-10-2010, 03:36 PM
Airport security is a farce. If I wanted to, I could go take any one of my former employers airplanes, sitting out there on the ramp. The same codes on the same locks they use system wide, that never change...

Thanks RB, I have been licensed since 1989, and nothing on the back side of the airports has changed! That is what is most annoying whenever I fly commercial, which I now avoid like the plague. I can go to any FBO and walk right out on the field, nobody checks ID, or "pats you down". As you say, if I wanted to get my hands on a jet big enough to do damage, it would not be a problem.

Black_Moons
12-10-2010, 03:52 PM
I maybe an old cynic, but I've always thought we have more to fear from governments than terrorists. :mad:

john
:)

X3, They affect my daily life a million fold more then any terrorist ever could, And they both hold my well being in as much contempt.

Thruthefence
12-10-2010, 05:04 PM
Regarding security at the airport level, it is starting to trickle down on the general aviation side. Escorted access to the ramp, ramp badges for ALL people working at the airport. Finger printing and 10 year background check for anyone with part 121 privileges (airliners). Private hangars must be locked down at all times. No "non badged" people inside, without a 'badged' escort. We are a small airport (SHV) and the TSA goons are literally swarming us, taking pictures, rattling gates (destroying one electric rolling gate in the process) And this is just the start.

Having said all that, the Airline terminal, jet bridges, & so forth, where everyone boards, is about 1/4 mile from a well travelled road, protected only by a 8' chainlink fence. With a running start, you could drive your grannie's Yugo through it, and be terrorizing a half dozen commuter airliners in 30 seconds. Much less a bomb laden rental truck.

It's an expensive joke.

Evan
12-10-2010, 07:55 PM
What makes it even more of a joke is how easy it is to get into the system. If I board in Williams Lake the security is primitive. They have a walk through metal detector, a wand and manual baggage inspection. That is it. No x-rays, no luggage scanners, no nitrate sniffers, no bomb sniffing dogs, no pat down and no clue. Once I am on the plane with my baggage I am inside the security perimeter when I land in Vancouver as long as I stay there there are no further security checks.

Further, if you want to get inside the fence at the airport just fly in. It's uncontrolled.

Machtool
12-11-2010, 01:58 AM
The A-380 debacle has slowed freight combined with the high AU dollar and christmas..
I went to the post office yesterday, then I rang customer service on that 131318 number. Got through to a guy in international arrivals. I put that to him. He told me they only do two flights a week on Qantas, and they are out bound. All the rest is done by freight flights. Thatís what he said any way.


Previous parcels could be tracked from when the sender lodged the item for posting and then the next was that it had cleared US Customs
I thought that as the case also. But I got another package from New York this week. It got to my doorstep, but the USPS Track and Confirm, only listed the first two entries Stateside. It didnít have the arrival customs, cleared, dispatch etc, like it used too.


That's exactly what I'm seeing with my package to Australia:
Still no luck. I went to the post office yesterday. It come up as a ďnot foundí on their system. They told me they donít see it until it hits customs here. And the customer service guy told me the same thing. As far as they were concerned, it is still not in the country.

He did say thereís a longer than expected delay. And that service was only estimated at 2 weeks any way. Iím not worried yet, it will turn up some time, this side of Christmas I hope.

Regards Phil.

.RC.
12-11-2010, 03:23 AM
Must be the month for losing parcels...

I just had a Ridgid tri-stand sent from Sydney to Gladstone (about 2000km).... 11 days later nothing for what should have been a 3 to 4 day trip...Pissed is the word I am right now at this company who has no contact phone number (email only) and while their emails have been pleasant and appear to be helpful it is impersonal compared to a phone call... If I knew what I knew now I would never have used them.

darryl
12-11-2010, 04:00 AM
Airport security- had an experience in the Congo once at an airport. We had landed at 1:00 am to refuel. We had to leave the plane of course. Walked off the plane into blistering heat and were escorted by armed guards into the building. There were about 30 of us in each of two rooms, and if it was hot outside, it was even hotter inside. Humidity was about 230%- it was well over 100 degrees, and this was 1 o-clock in the morning.

One guy decided to take a picture of the plane. Two guards rushed him, one guy grabbed the camera and literally blew it into pieces with his fingers. There was pandemonium for a few minutes while the situation got sorted out- turns out it was illegal to take a picture of the flag, and that's what the guards thought he was doing. Some of the flight crew did a lot of fast talking to calm things down.

End result, they moved all of us into one room, which made it even hotter. When the plane was ready, we were escorted back out and into the plane. It was nearly 80 degrees on the plane, with the air conditioner running, but it felt like walking into a freezer. There was cheering going on to celebrate the fact that we had not been killed or injured during the 'event'. The guy now without his camera was happy to be alive.

Talk about getting to know your fellow passengers. Even the pilot expressed relief to be back in the air. Things were pretty tense in the Congo around '70 or so.

mike4
12-18-2010, 09:36 PM
Does anyone in the US know if the security on outbound freight has been increased lately as I have some parts coming from Chicago which the USPS site says was processed at 4-40 pm on Dec6 2010 and they dont seem to have moved since then .
I contacted Australia Post and got told that there were delays on items leaving the States due to increased security checks on items flying from the airports now .

Thanks in advance.

Michael

There is still no sign of these items and the postal people are using the same old tired excuses , of extra workload due to christmas, increased ariport secutity in the US , and there seems to be no way to confirm is the items even made it to US customs or to an airport.

Getting very concerned , so much so that I have cancelled all plans for Chrismas and will be working as usual in an attempt to make up for lost time due to the dont care attitude of postal and other people involved.

mike4
12-22-2010, 03:32 AM
There is still no sign of these items and the postal people are using the same old tired excuses , of extra workload due to christmas, increased ariport secutity in the US , and there seems to be no way to confirm is the items even made it to US customs or to an airport.

Getting very concerned , so much so that I have cancelled all plans for Chrismas and will be working as usual in an attempt to make up for lost time due to the dont care attitude of postal and other people involved.

Well the items have finally arrived and are being used for the intended purpose.
However when I start to ask who or what delayed the transit of the items from the US to Australia , all I get is pathetic excuses , "there is a larger than normal volume of articles , there is increased security for items flying out of the US "

What a load of B.S . , all I can think of is that there must be a lot of very paranoid lazy staff in some of these centres .

I soon will have no choice but to stop ordering anything that may even remotely come from or pass through the US , the notion that this increased security is good needs to be serious reviewed , as it seems that the "terrorists " have finally won by making our own governments that paranoid that businesses will grind to a halt waiting for small items to be processed on some secure facility on an island somewhere.

I may be only one person but I do not have to glibly accept that it is good for me ,its for my protection , FROM WHAT ?????

Michael

bob ward
12-22-2010, 03:51 AM
I don't know how long its been in place, but I see there is now a $9 'security' surcharge on parcels weighing over 454gm or 1 pound going by Australia Post airmail to the US. Dunno who gets the $9, or which end of the journey gets the extra 'security'.

DFMiller
12-22-2010, 09:58 AM
Things are still slow from USA to Canada via USPS. 10 days from Chicago through customs to the Mississauga (Toronto) sorting facility. I am sure I could walk and swim it myself faster. Now that Canada Post has it I can expect it in a couple of weeks. I have another item which started a couple days later last check it was still in the void of customs.

DFMiller
12-22-2010, 01:50 PM
Wow, parcel #1 arrived. Only 3 days from Mississauga to Vancouver BC. Now I have stuff to play with over holidays :-)