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dp
12-23-2010, 12:38 AM
My birthday this year is Jan 1. Same as all the rest :) but this time I'll be 65. That's never happened before. Anyway, age - my own, at least, has crept up on me unawares. Today I got a full frontal reminder that I'm not any longer the buff young athlete of my yoot.

I was to meet my wife at the market to shop for this week's holiday groceries. The bus stops just across a two-lane with center divider road and there's no crosswalk located conveniently, so I and everyone else who needs to shop jaywalks.

So the bus left me off and I checked traffic and it was clear on my side, and it seemed clear on the other side, too, so I stepped into the street. At that point a hotdogger came hell bent fer leather around the corner headed my way so I broke into a jog.

In 1995 I burst a disk in my back and two surgeries later it's never healed well. About 4 strides into my jog my back let go with a spasm of pain and down I went. In the center divider. In one of those incredible "I meant to do that" moves I recovered and quickly got to my feet, waved off the traffic and passers-by asking if I was ok, and strode painfully across the second lane.

Getting old is going to suck - I can tell.

bborr01
12-23-2010, 01:01 AM
Getting old is going to suck - I can tell.

I have heard it is'nt for sissies.

Brian

Arcane
12-23-2010, 01:10 AM
Yeah, a guy at work told me about a time he realized he was getting 'up there'. He was walking down the hall at work and met a couple of young guys in their early 20s and said hi to them, even though he didn't know them. He turned around to see who they were talking about when he over heard one say to the other "Who was that old fart?" and then realized that they were taling about him!:D

doctor demo
12-23-2010, 01:19 AM
Dennis, What's a Yoot?:D
Great movie
I couldn't resist
Steve "Dead on Balls Accurate"

oldtiffie
12-23-2010, 01:54 AM
Dennis.

Having your back go out more often than you do is a sure sign of old age.

Frank Ford
12-23-2010, 01:58 AM
A few years back, a Stanford student came into my shop, and asked if I was "the" Frank Ford he'd heard about who worked there. I admitted I was the only one by that name.

He then said, "Cool - my grandfather bought his first guitar from you!"

Thanks a lot, kid. . .

dp
12-23-2010, 02:08 AM
Dennis.

Having your back go out more often than you do is a sure sign of old age.

It's true, Tiffie - I have the back of a man a quarter my age - it goes out every chance it gets!

dp
12-23-2010, 02:14 AM
A few years back, a Stanford student came into my shop, and asked if I was "the" Frank Ford he'd heard about who worked there. I admitted I was the only one by that name.

He then said, "Cool - my grandfather bought his first guitar from you!"

Thanks a lot, kid. . .

Great story, Frank - highlights the problem of being a legend in your own lifetime! Congrats on the honorarium, though, that's quite fine thing. Reminds me I got my Les Paul at age 17 at a pawn shop in Oakland for $185. My first Ex sold it at a garage sale for $5.00 so somebody got a better deal than I. It was appraised in abstentia at $5200 circa 1982.

oldtiffie
12-23-2010, 02:15 AM
Dennis.

Does that mean that you are a quarter-back?

You are going to have a hell of a time with the cheer squad.

And if you throw the ball, does that make you a(n old?) tosser?

Weston Bye
12-23-2010, 08:26 AM
Some years ago, before I achieved my present 60, I was standing at my mailbox when a driver stopped and asked me if I was all right... I said I felt OK, no problems. He thought I looked like I might be in some distress. I was puzzled.
This happened once again when I was out on the road walking for excersize. A different concerned citizen offered me a ride home. I assured him that I was quite OK and politely declined.

Now, if these concerned citizens had been attractive ladies......

paulsv
12-23-2010, 09:02 AM
Yes, getting old is tough, but as my old dad used to say, it sure beats the alternative.

PixMan
12-23-2010, 09:27 AM
And when it come to guys getting older (I'm a young 51)...


Three things happen with the plumbing:

1. It's not the 5 gallon reservoir in once was, especially at night.
2. It's not the fire hose it once was.
3. The on/off valve isn't quite the fast-closing unit it once was.

They say the memory is the second thing to go. I forget what the first is.

gary350
12-23-2010, 09:30 AM
Been there done that. My body is 60 but my brain still thinks I am 20. I think I can do something but soon realize that I can't. It is frustrating to remember how easy things were when I was young. Now days I spend the whole day doing something I use to do in just a few hours and never got tired. I drink a lot of ice tea the caffeine tricks my body into thinking I am not tired.

tryfred
12-23-2010, 09:56 AM
Perspective is everything…

My Mother-in-law lived in a senior apartment complex … she was 93; she always referred to another resident that lived there as that “old lady” that lives down the hall.

Joe

DICKEYBIRD
12-23-2010, 09:57 AM
I'm a couple yrs. behind you Dennis at 63 but I feel your pain...literally. My back injury at 17 yrs. old hasn't required surgery yet (knock on wood) but has been a factor all my life. Seems to be under control since I had my last nerve block (8 yrs ago) and walking a couple miles every day (started that 6 yrs. ago.)

I feel about 80 this morning. We're having our family Christmas dinner at my house (looks like 21 bodies with the 2 new grandkids this year) and I took my last week of vacation to clean up around here. I scraped & scrubbed 2 bathrooms, cut out and replaced all the old caulking and replaced the knobs & other stuff. Yesterday, I got down on my hands & knees & scrubbed up a zillion spots in the carpet in 4 rooms....then drug around a bulky & heavy carpet cleaner for 6 hrs. before they were what I considered "clean enough." After that, I was up & down several times through the night moving fans around to speed up the drying. Talk about feeling old and sore this morning....sheesh!!

(....and my inner child is SCREAMING: "You're on vacation, get out into the shop and have some FUN!" Oh well, that's the way the cookie crumbles.:rolleyes:

Gary Gill
12-23-2010, 10:51 AM
You might remember I turned a lathe over on myself last year and severly broke my leg. Now, I walk with a cane most times. Yesterday, I took my Uncle the the VA hospital for a routine visit. No less than six people assumed I was there for myself and offered assistance. Unk gets around much better than I do and he is 16 years my senior.

Stepside
12-23-2010, 12:25 PM
I didn't think 65 was old until one of my students informed me that his grandfather was in my class a few/many years ago. Now at 68 and having some back issues I have given up the rototiller. You can't believe the pain of breaking off a portion of a disc in your lower spine. One of the best things to do for your health/comfort is good shoes and socks. I find that if I wear my tall top work boots and boot socks I can still do 10 hours standing in front of a lathe or mill.

Liger Zero
12-23-2010, 12:33 PM
I wish there was a way to get the wisdom of "old age" without the health problems. I've got at least 30 more years before I become "old" hopefully they make strides in improving the quality of life.

tlfamm
12-23-2010, 12:39 PM
DickeyBird:

>>I'm a couple yrs. behind you Dennis at 63 but I feel your pain...literally. My back injury at 17 yrs. old hasn't required surgery yet (knock on wood) but has been a factor all my life. Seems to be under control since I had my last nerve block (8 yrs ago) and walking a couple miles every day (started that 6 yrs. ago.)


Same age, same circumstance. Exercise generally keeps it under control; thinking like a teenager gets the back in trouble.


Gary Gill

>>You might remember I turned a lathe over on myself last year and severly broke my leg. Now, I walk with a cane most times.


I do remember, and oddly enough I was just today wondering how the recovery is going?

oldtiffie
12-23-2010, 12:46 PM
Seems that some are confronting or being confronted by their mortality for the first time and are either afraid of or not liking what they see or of what may lie ahead in the not too distant future.

Lew Hartswick
12-23-2010, 12:56 PM
Seems that some are confronting or being confronted by their mortality for the first time and are either afraid of or not liking what they see or of what may lie ahead in the not too distant future.
Just how OLD is OLDtiffie? :-) It sounds like I may be among the elder
here at 78 last Aug. :-) I'm still in "reasonable" shape (just lucky I guess).
...Lew...

Malc-Y
12-23-2010, 12:59 PM
I can sympathise With many who have posted on this thread so far as I am almost 67 and I feel like an 18 year old, (but the wife won't let me have one!). My back is just fine, but as a result of a motor cycle accident when I was 20 I now suffer from quite painful osteo-arthritis in both knees. The local hospital orthopeadic specialist said that they could replace the knee joints with artificial ones but they say that I am too young! Apparently they would only last 10 years or so and as it is a very expensive operation our wonderful National Health Service don't want to waste money on anyone who is likely too outlast the new knees and require to have it done again at further great expense! So the doctor prescribed Co-Codamol pain killers to be taken as required.
Apart from the knees, I am in disgustingly good health which I put down to totally ignoring advice on diet and exercise from so-called experts! (And drinking only the finest of English ales).

Malc. :cool:

Happy Christmas to all.

Gary Gill
12-23-2010, 01:27 PM
tlfamm, thanks for asking. I have healed and am getting along okay with the fused ankle. My foot is sore often and walking isn't as natural as it used to be. I am grateful though that I still have a leg and foot.

DR
12-23-2010, 01:54 PM
My left knee has been a problem since an accident at age 20. At 65 I went to a "knee" guy to see what he could do (I was hoping for some miracle micro surgery to correct it). Osteoarthritis, "wait until it's worse and we'll put in an artificial one"......or.......

Get out and start walking (and light jogging). I do 5 miles a day, every day. Can't remember when I felt better plus losing 30+ pounds.

Where I walk/jog is a popular exercise route. Damn, the young babes are gorgeous, much more so than I remember when I was that age. Problem is the "old" folks, the regulars all seem to want to stop and talk. The ones I'd rather talk with are the young babes, for some reason they aren't interested.

tlfamm
12-23-2010, 03:00 PM
tlfamm, thanks for asking. I have healed and am getting along okay with the fused ankle. My foot is sore often and walking isn't as natural as it used to be. I am grateful though that I still have a leg and foot.


And your lathe? I recall some damage to the cross-slide(?)

Liger Zero
12-23-2010, 03:17 PM
tlfamm, thanks for asking. I have healed and am getting along okay with the fused ankle. My foot is sore often and walking isn't as natural as it used to be. I am grateful though that I still have a leg and foot.


You're the lathe guy! Ok. :)

We were just talking about moving heavy machinery here and I mentioned I "knew" someone who got smashed.

Gary Gill
12-23-2010, 03:23 PM
And your lathe? I recall some damage to the cross-slide(?)

I repaired the lathe and it works well.

Jim Hubbell
12-23-2010, 04:15 PM
Well I read all this about getting old and it kind of scares me! Today I turn 80 and am still going strong. ( strike strong ). Since the pacer implant 5 or 6 years ago things are becomming easier. My new shop is comming along nicely. No end of projects.

oldtiffie
12-23-2010, 06:09 PM
Originally Posted by oldtiffie
Seems that some are confronting or being confronted by their mortality for the first time and are either afraid of or not liking what they see or of what may lie ahead in the not too distant future.


Just how OLD is OLDtiffie? :-) It sounds like I may be among the elder
here at 78 last Aug. :-) I'm still in "reasonable" shape (just lucky I guess).
...Lew...

Lew.

I'm not all that old at all at 74 in 3 weeks.

I am a realist though as I'm always looking forward to tomorrow - as a realist and pragmatist - and certainly not through rose-tinted glasses.

I've seen people in their 20's or 30's drop their bundle completely if they were injured or disabled in any way. I've seen many go into denial that they have reached 30, 40, 50 etc. I've heard all the stories about 40 being the new 30, 50 being the new 40 and using that at 50 to justify thinking they are 30!!

I do get embarrassed, annoyed and disappointed in "old fools" who can not face reality and who can't see that they can't turn the clock back.

I have had to face and adjust to my limitations as regards ability and ambition.

I've had my horoscope read out to me and I've seen it often enough to have taken notice of it - at last.

I do almost kick myself at times when I can't do something physical that I did easily when I was younger and which I kept doing as I got older and got to the stage that it was a PITA. So I re-thought it, went back to square one, an matched my needs with my ability and lo and behold it was not only better and easier but often quicker. The lesson was that if I was half as smart as I thought I was when I was younger I'd have thought it through then and got the answer I got now. I guess I'm getting a bit smarter (less stupid, pig-headed too?) and a lot less of a tear-ar$e in my later years.

I am in pretty good shape but have had to and have adapted to my needs and limits as I go on.

I got a very good lesson about this time in December 1981 (about 3 weeks before I turned 45). It was at a pre-Christmas drinks pi$$ -up. There was an Army bloke there who was giving everyone a through PITA complaining that the Army had discharged him to early retirement. I just happened to be near enough and pi$$ed enough to hear another bloke tell the whinger that "45 is one of the biggest days in your life". The whinger was stunned. I stuck my nose in and asked "Howzat" to which the reply was "The day you turn 45 you are one day closer to 60 than you are to 30". My reply was "$hit, 30 was like yesterday" to which he replied "In that case 60 is tomorrow". And then when I realised what he had said and what it meant, I was stunned into silence. And I wasn't the only one!! The end result is that all I wanted to do was to get to 60 and see how I had fared in the 30>60 years. I don't remember 45, 50, 55 but I sure do remember 60 as I had to confront just how well I went in the 45>60 zone as compared to up to 30. It was not too bad but not as good as I'd kidded myself it would be.

After that I just looked forward to 60 then 65 and 70.

I am now looking forward to 75, 80 and 90+ in terms of meeting my more reasonable aims and ambitions.

But I could "fall off the twig" tomorrow too.

I wonder why I was not such a realist when I was younger, but I can see that I did get to be more realistic as I got older.

No matter how bad getting old(er?) may seem to be its good to be alive and to have the chance and all-be-it increasingly limited ability to make the most of it before the inevitable end.

pgmrdan
12-23-2010, 06:37 PM
Gotta stay off your butt and keep pushing yourself.

davidh
12-23-2010, 07:36 PM
Perspective is everything…

My Mother-in-law lived in a senior apartment complex … she was 93; she always referred to another resident that lived there as that “old lady” that lives down the hall.

Joe
my God i love that. . . . .

38_Cal
12-23-2010, 07:55 PM
At 60, my hair isn't going gray, it's getting silver-blond...so I don't have senior moments, I have blond ones! :D

David

sasquatch
12-23-2010, 09:20 PM
I,m almost 66 and recently went through a number of health tests.
The Doctor told me i was actually in quite good shape for my age,,,,

I told him ,well when i was young i did a lot of running, that,s what i attribute it too.
He looked and said,Oh, Jogging- like that?

I said,, no not really,, "Running away from the Cops Chasing us."

He had the strangest look on his face.

brian Rupnow
12-23-2010, 09:25 PM
I'll be 65 this July, and Damn, I feel good. I still work every day, I still drive my model A hotrod, and I'm smarter now than I ever was. I've got a good looking wife who loves me and makes more money than I do, a bunch of kids that have finally all moved out for good, and a hatefull Tomcat who thinks I'm wonderfull. Merry Christmas, ya bunch of old farts!!!!----Brian

Tim Clarke
12-23-2010, 09:56 PM
At 57 the thing that amazes me is nowadays I'm in the group I used to refer to as old farts. My new boss, who's 34 tells me and the guy who I work with He can't believe the things we know. I usually tell him that I've been a pretty good mechanic since his dad started high school. Maybe before.

I still feel pretty good, and hope to continue to do so for a long time. BUT I'm a whole lot more careful than I used to be.

The sweet young things are nice to me, but I suspect it's because I remind them of their grandpa. Egads!

TC

fixerdave
12-23-2010, 11:15 PM
I guess everyone has that moment when they realise... I'm old. Me, I have an advantage, it will be when the aliens come back.

No, really... you see, I distinctly remember being a kid watching that stupid show, "Chariots of the Gods" or something. They talked about how the Mayan 64K year calendar rolls over - and that's when the aliens come back. I remember calculating it out... 46 I'd be. I'd still be alive, probably. That was the first time I realised that I, me, myself, was going to be one of those old people. I was going to get old, way off in the future mind you, but it was going to happen. Well, next year, the future arrives. I'm not going to be holding my breath for the aliens, but I know I'm going to be OLD. :eek:

But, it's all good. At least I'll get that moment done and over with. I can relax for the next 30 years or so and not having to worry about "that day" when I'm confronted with, well, maturity. Right now, I still feel like I'm faking being a grownup - next year, sigh, I guess I'll be one for sure.

I guess the real test of "old" (and putting this slightly on topic) is when you realise that that stuff you buy for your shop will outlast you. Yeah, yeah, lots of old machinery was made before we were born and will outlast us, but knowing it and really, really knowing it are two different things. Sort of like me just realising that I'm 45 and commiserating with the old farts ;) I'm not old yet, that's next year.


David...

Bill736
12-23-2010, 11:59 PM
Yes, I can relate to your problems. A year ago when I was...lets see, 2009 minus 1948....61 years old , I was standing at the urinal in the supermarket bathroom. My mind was wandering off on some subject , and suddenly I didn't know where I was, or how to get out of the bathroom. The confusion only lasted three or four seconds, but it was a bit alarming. I've had a brain MRI since then, with no particular damage noted other than a few small defects common to most people my age. Fortunately, it hasn't happened again, and it may have simply been a case of my concentration on one subject causing a loss of awareness on another subject. Or, I may have actually started to fall asleep , and awoke confused.

duckman
12-24-2010, 10:34 AM
Well I'll be 68 on Jan 2 take absolutely no meds not even aspirin weigh about 20# to much , can make my 16 year old 6 foot 200# grandson look like a wimp when I do things that he thinks I can't do like pick up a full 100# propane tank , I only do that when I have to take it out of my truck. Been involuntarily retired for the last 2 1/2 years when Remington closed our shop to save money but all they did was shoot them selves in the foot when we were in full production the plant made between 400 / 500 rifles every day of the week after they moved the operations to NY state on there very best day they make 100 of our rifles . But I digress I feel I'm healthier than most of the older people (60 plus) in my small town and plan on being around long enough to be a burden on everyone :D. Have never spent more than 4 hours in the hospital not counting the time when I was born , never broke any part of my body except for the normal cuts, bruises, aches, and burns.

PixMan
12-25-2010, 09:01 AM
<snip>Been involuntarily retired for the last 2 1/2 years when Remington closed our shop to save money but all they did was shoot them selves in the foot when we were in full production the plant made between 400 / 500 rifles every day of the week after they moved the operations to NY state on there very best day they make 100 of our rifles . <snip>

No surprise there. Apparently their "corporate stupidity" continues too, because they did the same thing to the Marlin plant in North Haven CT, closed as of October this year. The very definition of insanity is to do the same thing over again and expect a different result.

I assume you don't want to be doing a long commute at this point in your life, but Smith & Wesson is moving their Thompson Center line from Maine to Massachusetts soon, and says it'll create 300 to 350 jobs in their Springfield facility. No one here cares that 350 jobs in a Maine town evaporate while we give S&W $6M in tax concessions for 5 years. That's essentially having us taxpayers fund 120 of those people for 5 years.

BTW, a few jobs should be opening up over at Ranor in Westminster, they just landed some big contracts.

Deepest_Valley
12-25-2010, 11:55 AM
You guys are a bunch of young whipper snappers. Several years ago, four of us old guys were doing a major repair of a 100 year old wooden turntable. As I was the leader, I had special name tags made us; The Three Score and Ten Crew. The other day one of the guys suggested that maybe it was time for new tags; The Four Score Crew.

You are only as old as you think you are.

J Weber
12-25-2010, 12:08 PM
When I was in my 20's the shop I worked had a bunch of old guys in the toolroom that took a liking to me.Looking back 30+ years that was the best thing that ever happened to me.I always had someone to go to for answers.
They are all gone now and Dam I miss them! Now the pups come to me.It ain't right.I will never know 50% of what them old boys did.

The Artful Bodger
12-25-2010, 02:15 PM
Two of us went to Pyongyang in North Korea some time ago. Everyone was assigned a guide and an interpreter. My guide was a very young woman (very pretty too of course) and a very pleasant young man as the guide.

They thought we were very old and would hold our elbows when going up or down stairs, every time we even paused a chair would magically appear for us to sit on. Two very nice young people with a job to do but it sure did get tiring eventually!:cool: