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MGM
12-20-2003, 12:29 AM
Hi there
I'm new to this group and I'm looking for a good used 12"/14" lathe in western Canada.Does anyone know of any sources ? Is there any close to you Thrud ?
Thanks

quasi
12-20-2003, 01:22 AM
Don't let the prices of used machines in the States get your hopes up, machines in western Canada are 3 or4 times as expensive, unless you ripoff a widow.

If you really want sticker shock, try some dealers like Modern Tool.

Evan
12-20-2003, 01:48 AM
Used machine tools in Western Canada are scarcer than hen's teeth. I've never seen one advertised except once and that was a full shop of equipment not to be sold seperately. I recently checked all the auction houses in BC and not one has any coming up.

BillH
12-20-2003, 02:11 AM
Your in Western Canada? Take a trip south, Like Seattle, or another industrial city. Sure to find many used machines.

Thrud
12-20-2003, 02:23 AM
Try www.bfgmt.com (http://www.bfgmt.com) they might have something, or Skinner 1-800-661-9429, or Akhurst Machinery 780-435-3936, or Modern Tool 780-465-9471, check newspapers for auctions and sales Wednsdaus, fridays, saturdays (classifieds) also check the internet for auctions in the western provinces, Goverment of Canada sales and Provincial SUpply & Services Sales (third wed. of each month in Alberta)

torker
12-20-2003, 02:29 AM
Depends on your budget.... there's some stuff out there. Also depends where you are (if you want to look at something). I just found a 14X40 offshore (House of Tools) lathe with maybe 25 hrs on it. It's been in storage for awhile. Guy wants $4000Cnd. Replacement cost on new (new has 3hp...this one 2hp) is $6000Cnd. This is in the Cranbrook, BC area. I'll be selling my 9" SB this spring. Will probably be going to the States to buy a bigger American made 14X40 if I can ever decide what I should buy. I really love my SB but the small spindle bore and need for speed are driving me nuts. I agree with quasi about the sticker shock at Modern Tool. An outfit here bought a BP clone from them and from what I can see they paid probably $1500 too much for it.

G.A. Ewen
12-20-2003, 11:51 AM
Winnipeg eh? There is a fellow on this BBS that lives right close to you who might be able to help. He has the nose of a Blood Hound when it comes to sniffing out used machinery. (does that make him a Lathe Dog?) http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif I am sure that he will contact you if he knows of anything available. (He will probably contact you anyway, a hell-of-a nice guy)

dvideo
12-20-2003, 02:29 PM
Might be possible to find trucks making the trip from WI-MI area. If you checked truck routes out - and then looked for machines, it might be easier than doing it the other way a-round. There seem to be a supply of good machines in the MI-IL-WI areas that might be of interest....

-- jerry

gizmo2
12-20-2003, 04:44 PM
Jerry makes a good point! When I lived in NW Indiana, my friend came down from Kodiak Island to buy stereo equipment in Chicago. Quality, selection, price all better. His buddies all wanted stuff too and so paid for the trip, and they still came out ahead in the long run. Start at the bulletin board at local truckstop with a post, you could well get lucky.

jfsmith
12-20-2003, 06:42 PM
I may be giving away a tip on American National Security, but I take equipment back and forth over the Canadian-U.S. border all of the time. I always take new stuff out the box make it look used, and don't pay GST and PST on them. The used equipment I claim has a part of my cottage industry, so again I don't get taxed.

Then there is the other method, cross the border where there are no check points, which is most of the Canadian/US border. Get a customs slip and after your in Canada, mail it to the customs folks with a salvage value of zero dollars. Then you will be fine.

Jerry

DR
12-20-2003, 08:43 PM
BillH wrote: "Your in Western Canada? Take a trip south, Like Seattle, or another industrial city. Sure to find many used machines."

Sorry, guys. You won't find much in Seattle. ALL the used machinery dealers have gone out of business (most of the new machine dealers, too).

ibewgypsie
12-20-2003, 09:26 PM
The sweet spot in Our Country (USA) appears to be North east.. Conn, Maryland, Pa, NJ..

Lots of deals there, that is where my machines came from.

David.

Herb W
12-20-2003, 11:21 PM
MGM
Good to see another Manitoba guy...welcome to the board!

Unfortunately, it's like the other guys are saying - good used machine tools are hard to come by here, but then I suppose you already know that.

Some questions for you:
Do you have a specific price range in mind?

Older American iron or newer offshore?

Are you in touch with the Wpg. dealers?

I presume you're watching the papers for machines & auctions.?

Have you ruled out looking east instead of west? Probably more stuff available in southern Ontario than west. (maybe someone who knows the Ont. market can comment on this)




[This message has been edited by Herb W (edited 12-20-2003).]

BillH
12-20-2003, 11:26 PM
North East is definetly the goldmine
Where I live, Every week a new southbend is in the paper, certainly allways some bridgeports for sale.

Arcane
12-21-2003, 12:17 AM
One comparatively little known Canadian newspaper that lists used machinery for sale is The Western Producer.

MGM
12-22-2003, 10:43 AM
Thank you for the replys.I was thinking in the five thousand price range.The chinese 14/40 looks like a nice machine but I'm wondering in the long run if that is a wise choice.At the present I have a 12/36 Worcester lathe from the 30's ?.It is well past is usefull life but it just won't die.