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Liger Zero
02-21-2011, 10:26 PM
Everyone ok down there? :confused:

The Artful Bodger
02-21-2011, 10:37 PM
Everyone ok down there? :confused:


Well no...... we are OK being about 50kms away but the mayor of Christchurch says to expect bad news. The quake happened when the central city was crowded with city workers and shoppers etc.

miker
02-21-2011, 10:55 PM
Watching this live here in OZ right now. I fear there will be many casualties this time.
Maybe the Kiwi members could let us know if they are ok when possible. Glad your ok Bodger.

Rgds

The Artful Bodger
02-21-2011, 10:59 PM
Watching this live here in OZ right now. I fear there will be many casualties this time.
Maybe the Kiwi members could let us know if they are ok when possible. Glad your ok Bodger.

Rgds


Thanks Michael, I know there are a few members who live in the area and may work in the city where I believe the greatest danger was.

Dr Stan
02-22-2011, 12:29 AM
Here's a link to a news report, pics & a video: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41709359/

Yow Ling
02-22-2011, 12:51 AM
I was at work when it struck, very violent. about 1 min later our factory filled with water and muddy sheet. noone hurt at work , but reports of 10 dead not counting people in collapsed buildings. city was gridlocked for ages. damage is way worse than sept quake. took me 4 1/2 hours to get home normal trip is 35 or 40 min. might go to work tomorrow, might not

miker
02-22-2011, 12:58 AM
Yow Ling, glad your OK. Where abouts in the city do you work?

Rgds

Yow Ling
02-22-2011, 01:01 AM
about 1km from the centre , Sydenham.

miker
02-22-2011, 01:12 AM
My wife has relatives staying in Montreal Street. Not sure which end but we think it is the Cathedral end. So maybe not so good.

Rgds

Davo J
02-22-2011, 01:27 AM
It is up to 65 dead at the moment. Can only feel for their families.

Dave

Yow Ling
02-22-2011, 01:32 AM
65 confirmed dead, expected to rise,
Montreal st is 1 block over from work, when I left I didnt go that way ,
I belive there are some collapsed hotels, but no idea where.

As this disaster unfolds it is gratifying to see how quickly the emergency services have responded, Australian govt is sending specialist assistance, should arrive around midnight only 11 hours, pretty fantastic neighbours to have really

lakeside53
02-22-2011, 02:19 AM
I have family all over Chch and the Peninsula. No communication from anyone. Lots of big aftershocks. A couple of hours after the 6.3, there was a 5.9 near Akaroa. I haven't seen reports about Lyttleton, but I suspect that's real bad.

Greg Q
02-22-2011, 02:55 AM
Lyttelton and New Brighton are both reported to be levelled and uninhabitable. Aftershocks will of course be around for awhile...it looks like there are a lot of buildings so damaged that one more shove will topple them. Certainly the toll is going to be very high. I read one report of two buses being crushed.

You Kiwis are in our prayers.

aostling
02-22-2011, 04:03 AM
Lyttelton and New Brighton are both reported to be leveled and uninhabitable.

Here's the photo I took of Lyttelton on 15 September, when they were repairing damage from the initial earthquake. This is now the epicenter of today's aftershock.

That we have seen no footage of Lyttelton or Akaroa yet suggests that the tunnel must be closed, and the roads over the Port Hills destroyed.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u183/aostling/Lyttleton.jpg

Greg Q
02-22-2011, 04:13 AM
TV3 has been reporting that the tunnel is closed, but its not clear if its blocked. They are also giving unconfirmed reports that I mentioned. I haven't been to Lyttleton, but Christchurch is one of my favourite places.

The Artful Bodger
02-22-2011, 04:17 AM
I understand the Lyttleton tunnel is open for emergency vehicles only, the control systems (whatever they are) are out of order and I presume the ventilation fans too. The Summit Road to Lyttleton is damaged and I guess blocked, saw that from some helicopter footage.

Almost all water pumping stations are out of service and they are opening the emergency valves which will discharge sewerage into the streams and rivers.

Allan, a reporter walked over the Bridal Path this afternoon and described the main street of Lyttleton as being destroyed. The Time Ball Station, which my may have admired, looked like it is beyond repair.

aostling
02-22-2011, 04:39 AM
The Time Ball Station, which my may have admired, looked like it is beyond repair.

Here's the Time Ball when I saw it in September. I couldn't get in because it was closed due to 'quake damage. But they were going to repair it. If it has now fallen, that would be a real loss.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u183/aostling/Lyttletontimeball.jpg


Lyttelton Harbour has this tank farm. I don't see how those tanks could have survived. I wonder what was in them?

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u183/aostling/LyttletonHarbour.jpg

Mike Burch
02-22-2011, 04:43 AM
Bodger, any problems in Ashburton?

Davo J
02-22-2011, 04:51 AM
They also said the inspectors where in the church inspecting the damage from last time when this earthquake hit. They have not heard or seen anyone come out, and think they have perished under the rubble.
Their has been a lady that the TV channel has had on the phone, but rescuers haven't found yet and was crushed on the second floor of a building.

Dave

aostling
02-22-2011, 04:54 AM
John,

My brother Glenn in Norway just noticed that there is a red car on the roof, in the photo in post #14. How did it get there, and why? Anyway, that building is on the main street, which you say is now destroyed.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u183/aostling/redcaronroof.jpg

EddyCurr
02-22-2011, 05:15 AM
Reports and many images from Christchurch can be viewed at
websites for the following domestic news outlets


New Zealand Herald (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/)

The Dominion Post (http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/)

Otago Daily Times (http://www.odt.co.nz/)

TV New Zealand (http://tvnz.co.nz/).

Weston Bye
02-22-2011, 06:47 AM
Woke up to view the overnight headlines with some alarm. Immediately came here to see how my friends have fared. Relieved to hear from some, still concerned for others. Still praying.

speedy
02-22-2011, 07:34 AM
Good to hear that you are Ok John & Yow Ling.
I hope that Patrick and others are doing as well. Just heard that our cousin and her children are still with us, although their home is destroyed which may be a Godsend;the insurance will not be able to stuff them about as they appear to have been doing previously.
I spoke with a mate over in Kumara this arvo and he felt the quake while watching his suspended clothhorse swaying 2-3 inches from the ceiling.
From what I have read, Kiwis are opening their homes to those who need it.

Rustybolt
02-22-2011, 02:02 PM
Hope all our members are OK.

The Artful Bodger
02-22-2011, 02:23 PM
John,

My brother Glenn in Norway just noticed that there is a red car on the roof, in the photo in post #14. How did it get there, and why? Anyway, that building is on the main street, which you say is now destroyed.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u183/aostling/redcaronroof.jpg

What did the rental car company say when you told them where you left it?

alanganes
02-23-2011, 09:37 PM
Bumping this back up top. Any further news?

Scary stuff.

wierdscience
02-23-2011, 09:47 PM
Did I hear right that the toll is now over 300?:(

Greg Q
02-23-2011, 09:54 PM
Those tanks along the Lyttleton harbour have not been reported as damaged, and the photos show them still standing, but the town itself is very heavily damaged.

Christchurch has lost many buildings, including the iconic Cathedral and two large office buildings. There are almost constant aftershocks and there are buildings which are leaning including a 20 storey hotel.

The rescue attempts aren't finding survivors today. 76 killed, 300+ missing.

Greg Q
02-23-2011, 09:59 PM
Did I hear right that the toll is now over 300?:(

It looks like it will be for sure. They know of up to 200 trapped in the three main collapsed buildings that aren't counted yet. The authorities are concentrating on search & rescue rather than recovering bodies unless they are easily retrievable.

The NZ authorities are going to publish the missing list in the hopes that many of those names can be accounted for.

aostling
02-24-2011, 12:33 AM
Those tanks along the Lyttleton harbour have not been reported as damaged, and the photos show them still standing, but the town itself is very heavily damaged.


I've been checking all the NZ newspaper websites, and Stuff, but have not seen the photos of the Lyttelton tanks. Do you recall where this was posted?

Yow Ling
02-24-2011, 12:50 AM
The news is not very good. The main CBD is pretty well locked down, this is where most of the damage has happened. There are heaps of international rescue teams arriving, they have plenty to do.

As well as the big news stuff, the citys wastewater is crippled, there is pretty poor water supplyfo a large part of the city, thousands of private homes are badly damaged.

Out toward the eastern suburbs liquefaction is very bad, roads are badly damaged, there are hundreds of sinkholes in the roads waiting to eat your car.

There have been a few lucky breaks, there was a big medical conference on in chch so there are lots of extra medical people here, also there are some military exercises going on so there is milaitry assets in the area including some frigates inthe harbour which are providing meals to the residents of Lyttleton.

There is so much damage It will take years to even clean up, hell there were still damaged bulidings from the last quake that wernt touched yet.

We have been at work cleaning up, today there were maybe half a dozen aftershocks

Machtool
02-24-2011, 12:58 AM
but have not seen the photos of the Lyttelton tanks.
Alan, Thereís a TV news report here showing the tank farm.

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/lyttelton-port-supplies-not-under-threat-3767045/video

Some of you guys would know the guy named Troup. I donít think he posts here, but if fairly frequent over on P.M. In a similar thread going on over there, It was reported that he is O.K, but his workshop is a write off.

Regards Phil.

aostling
02-24-2011, 02:59 AM
Alan, Thereís a TV news report here showing the tank farm.
http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/lyttelton-port-supplies-not-under-threat-3767045/video


Thanks, I've now bookmarked that.

When I was in Lyttelton in September they were shoring up the Empire Hotel. If this has now fallen in this new earthquake, it sort of symbolizes the sense of futility which must now be hard to shake.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u183/aostling/shoringupthepub.jpg

dogdoctor
02-24-2011, 04:28 AM
I have 2 brothers in christchurch and I work at a vet clinic in Linwood. Managed to get to all 3 places yesterday.All 3 houses still standing. Took 2 hours for a 30 minute trip. The streets are a mess. Mud everywhere from liquifaction and the roads are thrown up in waves and crevasses No water sewage or electricity Dig a hole in the back yard for a toilet. Buildings collapsed everywhere. Anything with masonry is on the ground. Wooden houses seem to survive the best. I live in Oxford 50km west of Christchurch which has escaped any damage. Hid under my mill and my russian lathe during the shake Something about having lots of metal over you at times like this

MrSleepy
02-24-2011, 08:24 AM
We've had a pen friend in NZ for the last 40 odd years..

A couple of years ago they moved to the Christchurch suburbs to be near their children(and offspring).

I received an email this morning from them ...and thankfully they are okay..

but..

Although the electricity came back this morning (its still out in the middle of the city)

they have no water...and had to join a 100+ que to get a bucket full of drinking water.


Few Point of Sale's are working..and they have no cash for food etc..

The supermarkets are shut..so they are lucky they hoarded tinned food after last years quake.

Petrol is scarce..if available..and if you have cash. And the roads are devastated.

The sewerage was massing above ground on the streets..but now they are pumping all sewerage and storm water into local rivers..so disease could follow.





Its going to take them a long time to recover from this..the whole infrastructure is mashed.

Rob.

Rustybolt
02-24-2011, 09:30 AM
Th U.S. needs to send an aircraft carrier there.

Dr Stan
02-24-2011, 01:05 PM
Th U.S. needs to send an aircraft carrier there.

Amen to that plus a bunch of Sea Bee's and Army Corp of Engineers and their equipment.

The Artful Bodger
02-24-2011, 03:42 PM
Th U.S. needs to send an aircraft carrier there.

That would be very useful and no doubt much appreciated but it might be rather difficult since the US declared ANZUS non functional.

lakeside53
02-24-2011, 09:40 PM
Just when you think all the familily has been located, we got the bad news. My cousin and his wife are missing... thought to be in the PG&C building, where rescue is now "recovery".:(

The Artful Bodger
02-24-2011, 10:03 PM
Just when you think all the familily has been located, we got the bad news. My cousin and his wife are missing... thought to be in the PG&C building, where rescue is now "recovery".:(


I am sorry to hear that and pray they are actually somewhere else.

OwenG
02-24-2011, 10:37 PM
I also have a cousin and his wife we haven't been able to locate. A nephew is working long hours at the hospitals ER

Davo J
02-24-2011, 11:04 PM
Just when you think all the familily has been located, we got the bad news. My cousin and his wife are missing... thought to be in the PG&C building, where rescue is now "recovery".:(

I hope the both of you find you families soon. Lets hope they are just mixed up in the confusion
I have been following it closely and have been waiting for the miracle recoveries, it does happen in these situations. We went through the Newcastle earthquake, and I understand what the families are going through.

The news today said there was a 52 year old man trapped by a beam when it first happened. The Aussie doctors where at a conference in the city over when it happened and went out to help. They sent a small young lady doctor in because it was a small cavity to remove his legs to get him out. They said she is traumatized and unable to work since the the rescue. It just shows how well the professional rescuers are trained to be able to do this every day.
Some of the stories coming out are horrific and you can only feel for the families.

At the moment I think food and water are the main things needed as the shops are down and no one is able to get money and even if they do there is nowhere to buy anything.

Dave

lakeside53
02-24-2011, 11:25 PM
Here's that story...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/christchurch/4702108/Doctors-amputated-legs-to-save-trapped-man

Lots of other stories worth reading - menu on the right...

Asquith
02-26-2011, 04:23 PM
Words of support are one thing, but what can people from far away do to help?

Well, we can make donations to emergency appeals (do a search on New Zealand Earthquake appeal - for those in the UK I'm aware of the British Red Cross Appeal and the Vodafone appeal).

On a more direct level, do any HSM members in the affected area need replacements for lost stuff (small enough to be posted - e.g. small tools or books)?