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Black_Moons
08-18-2011, 06:12 PM
Hi. Yea yea, its pertty OT, But a few people have made thier own websites here so I thought id ask.. What do you do about privacy?

I don't want to put all my personal info for world+dog to see in my domain registration. Or have people suddenly calling me on my 40cents/minute phone line trying to sell my crap or steal my passwords or other phishing BS.

Are there any good services to use that hide that information/not have to enter it? (idealy NOT related to godaddy, Heard to much bad stuff about them)

Allready have a website service I wanna host with.. (Ehosting.ca) that is recommended by a friend of mine.. seems cheap enough for thier basic plan. ($2 a month. Don't want lame ads/tracking or other free webhost BS)

goose
08-18-2011, 06:42 PM
You can register your domain thru a proxy. The annual charge is nominal, maybe a few $.

Go-daddy is OK, the problem I find is with their outgoing email protocols not working the way they should.

KIMFAB
08-18-2011, 07:16 PM
Go to Network solutions.
http://www.networksolutions.com/;jsessionid=ef333018458420a636d2fc306704:hQCK

I have several domains registered with them, also a few with Godaddy.

They offer private listings for a few extra bucks.
I have had good luck with either, but I don't have privacy on any of my domains, if someone wants to spam me that's their problem.

Black_Moons
08-18-2011, 07:22 PM
Go to Network solutions.
http://www.networksolutions.com/;jsessionid=ef333018458420a636d2fc306704:hQCK

I have several domains registered with them, also a few with Godaddy.

They offer private listings for a few extra bucks.
I have had good luck with either, but I don't have privacy on any of my domains, if someone wants to spam me that's their problem.

$34.99 per year + $9.99 for privacy for domain name seems a little much for a .com, most other places offer $20 or less for a .com

Anyone heard of http://www.moniker.com/ ? Unfortualy it seems I need to make an account before I even see prices -_-;

<edit> found prices... and a messed up add to cart button.. meh. anyway. pertty cheap, $9+$4 for privacy per year... Some complaints about them online too but more good then bad it seems.. *shrugs*
<edit> .... Apparently they work on prepay, thats ok.. I try and prepay and.... It asks me to open a support ticket to enable that feature on my account....

I need to open a support ticket to enable paying them money????? wtf kinda broken company is this -_-;

M_C
08-18-2011, 09:33 PM
I've got quite a few domain names registered with godaddy, some have privacy, and I've never had any problems. I'd actually say they're one of the better companies for domain registration.

I wouldn't touch them for hosting though, unless it was something really non-critical!

Evan
08-18-2011, 09:40 PM
Network Solutions is a major ripoff. I have been using DomainsAtCost.ca for many years and their prices are rock bottom. They also provide hosting as well as domain registration privacy. I have about six domains registered there and have never had any problem.

macona
08-18-2011, 09:44 PM
I use moniker. Cant complain. It works. I have never had any issues other than people wanting to buy my domain from me.

Thing is I have never done anything with it. I have MacOS Server running on it but have never gotten around to doing anything other than what is default: http://www.biehler.us

Evan
08-19-2011, 02:11 AM
I use domainsatcost.ca strictly for registration. The best deal in town for hosting is HostPapa. Unlimited everything costs me about 10 bucks per month. That's unlimited traffic, domains, email, ftp, disk space and one free domain registration with signup forever. They also have lots of features and software included.

KIMFAB
08-19-2011, 02:26 AM
Sorry I forgot to mention the high price of network solutions.
They were the original outfit for registration and back when I did my first registrations there was no other choice.

Since then others like Godaddy have cropped up and cost much less.

I do my hosting locally so I can't help on that.

Black_Moons
08-19-2011, 02:26 AM
ehosting has some nice plans starting at just $2 a month for 200mb (or 400 meg with 2 year signup) and 'unlimited' bandwidth, lol, unlimited as if!, for $5 you get 2 or 4gigs, but only 500gig/month bandwidth? lol. I would rather I know my disk/bandwidth limits then just get canceled outta the blue for 'abuse'

though now that iv bought one I gotta figure out how to make my domain point at it and such... Changed the nameservers but now it just doesnt resolve :confused:

Peter.
08-19-2011, 02:34 PM
You have to wait a while after changing the naemserver for it to propagate. I just did the same thing a couple of days ago for the 1st time and it caught me out too.

taydin
08-19-2011, 03:31 PM
I wouldn't recommend godaddy. The company I work for has had a few domains registered with godaddy. It is SLOW! Created a subdomain, took close to an hour to take effect. Tried to use the Mantis bug tracker, takes about 15 minutes to send notification emails. Tried to upload a 16MByte file, took close to 30 minutes, with occasional data flow and mostly stall. Called them up and the answer was, "if you want fast response, get our "dedicated server" service.

Privately, I have been using bluehost.com. Don't see any of the above problems and their support is excellent. I especially like the "live chat" support, which is quite nice when you are outside of the US.

Evan
08-19-2011, 04:30 PM
Propagation of name server changes or new domains is not just dependent on the registering authority. Once they propagate it the change must then be downloaded to update secondary name servers all over the planet. That can take at least 24 hours or longer.

Your Old Dog
08-19-2011, 04:34 PM
I use www.nomonthlyfees.com and have never had any of the problems you mention. My site cost me $125 per year including domain reg and some free perks along the way like right now they owe me two free domain registrations if I should decide to create more webs. Then, after the first year the domanin name reg is part of the fee. Can't beat it with a stick IMHO.

PS. If you really want privacy do some reading on meta files and enter "noscan" in the meta file and all the the search engines will ignore any page with that in the meta file for that page.

Black_Moons
08-19-2011, 05:41 PM
I use www.nomonthlyfees.com and have never had any of the problems you mention. My site cost me $125 per year including domain reg and some free perks along the way like right now they owe me two free domain registrations if I should decide to create more webs. Then, after the first year the domanin name reg is part of the fee. Can't beat it with a stick IMHO.

PS. If you really want privacy do some reading on meta files and enter "noscan" in the meta file and all the the search engines will ignore any page with that in the meta file for that page.

Ah, I want people to visit my website, I just don't want them to be able to know exactly who I am :)
Ended up paying $9 for the domain for a year, with privacy registration (discount deal? Normaly should be $9+$4 but whatever there was a special)
And $2 a month with a 2 year signup, so $24 for hosting.. $33+tax for a years website, not bad really.

www.cyberlazy.com is finaly up :) if you wanted to see it... (Not that theres much there)

dp
08-20-2011, 12:30 AM
www.cyberlazy.com is finaly up :) if you wanted to see it... (Not that theres much there)


Ruh roh. Suggest a quick visit to http://browsersize.googlelabs.com/ and then get a canned CSS multi-column page template widely available for free all over the 'net.

Peter.
08-20-2011, 02:04 AM
What's a good (pref free) editor to load those templates and add content without too much fuss?

Black_Moons
08-20-2011, 02:11 AM
Ruh roh. Suggest a quick visit to http://browsersize.googlelabs.com/ and then get a canned CSS multi-column page template widely available for free all over the 'net.

I have no idea what your talking about, and that webpage just shows a weird backround that wraps around a few times when displayed on my screen. :P

dp
08-20-2011, 02:56 AM
I have no idea what your talking about, and that webpage just shows a weird backround that wraps around a few times when displayed on my screen. :P

:)

Not an uncommon reaction at all. It is a page that shows what the browser window size is for various percentages of the population. When designing a web page you want your money message to be seen by the largest percentage possible. After you load that page you type in the URL of your site and your site will be shown under the overlay. There are several gradients of opacity to allow seeing your page better.

The next part, multi-column template, can best be shown by example. Here is your page in a very simple (meaning I tossed it together in 20 minutes) 3-column template. The colors were what were handy, and I threw in some stylistic features and cleaned up some typesetting problems.

http://metalworkingathome.com/cyberlazy/

Another column would also be an advantage as you can add additional features such as navigation blocks, and sidebar information that is currently in the main column text flow.

A few images in shadow boxes would be a nice touch and give the page some dimension in the Z axis.

dp
08-20-2011, 03:11 AM
What's a good (pref free) editor to load those templates and add content without too much fuss?

I actually recommend Notepad in Windows for editing html, and free ftp tools such as filezilla will put the pieces in place. I use the Unix vi text editor on my servers and on my Mac.

I've looked at a number of html editors and so many of them modify your code in ways that make it unrecognizable. When I teach html and CSS I expect the student to use Notepad or other plain text editor. I teach html, not html editor usage :)

Black_Moons
08-20-2011, 03:45 AM
VIM actualy has very nice HTML syntax hilighting and spell checker that does not freak out at HTML codes. Id definately recommend it over notepad. Its basicly a programmers text editor.

dp: Ok, So your saying my webpage is... Too wide?

And the solution is to waste the sides of the window?

I don't get it. I will admit it does look nice, but im not sure how the 3 collumn thing really does anything important?

Btw, I do actualy check out my webpage at diffrent window widths, and it looks fine (Except when you get really small the logo is a little wide but whatever)

Peter.
08-20-2011, 04:15 AM
I don't want to learn HTML though dp - I want to drag images into place and click on a place to type.

dp
08-20-2011, 01:25 PM
VIM actualy has very nice HTML syntax hilighting and spell checker that does not freak out at HTML codes. Id definately recommend it over notepad. Its basicly a programmers text editor.

dp: Ok, So your saying my webpage is... Too wide?

And the solution is to waste the sides of the window?

Nope - what I'm saying is it is to your advantage to use negative space better on the web. It is pretty much expected on the web except in rare occasions such as forums such as this. And that your primary message - you can solve the problems of the world :) should land in the sweet spot.

http://webdesign.about.com/od/webdesignbasics/a/whitespace.htm

There are no web content experts who don't understand the value of whitespace in publishing where less is truly more. Far from being wasted, it adds value to the page.

And of course you don't have to do any of this, but your web page will be more successful if you use even just a few best practice guidelines. What works well is a very well researched subject.

dp
08-20-2011, 01:39 PM
I don't want to learn HTML though dp - I want to drag images into place and click on a place to type.

Dreamweaver (Not free) is widely used and typical of "do it their way" html editors.

A free one that is probably a good introduction is Page Breeze http://www.pagebreeze.com/.

Edit: Here's another I've experimented with and is pretty inexpensive - EditPlus. http://www.editplus.com/

Microsoft of all people have an excellent one in Expression Web 4 but lordy what a price. I have version 3 which I got at a deep discount through my company. http://www.microsoft.com/expression/products/web_overview.aspx

If you have a Mac then the default is the very adequate iWeb tool that is completely integrated into all the other iLive tools available for the Mac.

These will build a web site as easy as a web page, but you still need to understand some html fundamentals to get the most out of it. Because each of these tools does most of the work they also reflect that all the thinking went into the final page you get by someone other than you. And such tools do not allow much flexibility without losing all the advantages you were after when you chose it.

Finally - find a good tutorial site such as Tizag http://www.tizag.com/ and you'll be an expert in a matter of weeks.

dp
08-20-2011, 01:47 PM
VIM actualy has very nice HTML syntax hilighting and spell checker that does not freak out at HTML codes. Id definately recommend it over notepad. Its basicly a programmers text editor.

If you like vim (an extension of the vi editor, now available for Windows and standard in the Mac) you'll probably also like Crimson Editor for Windows.
http://www.crimsoneditor.com/

Black_Moons
08-20-2011, 04:12 PM
Well, I stole some of that formating for my webpage. (the bullet points and table mainly) No idea what to do with this CSS stuff. I tend to not like just copy/pasteing stuff i don't understand.

Kinda understand the whitespace thing.. but I don't really like how the CSS example you gave destorys the ability to resize the window (and have the text fill it) as needed. I think my website looks good at basicly any size right now, even macro sized windows, though the logo requires scrolling to see, the text does not fill the 'wider' scroll but the actual window size. (at least in IE.. I should likey get more browsers to test my webpage in I guess..)

dp
08-20-2011, 04:31 PM
Well, I stole some of that formating for my webpage. (the bullet points and table mainly) No idea what to do with this CSS stuff. I tend to not like just copy/pasteing stuff i don't understand.

Kinda understand the whitespace thing.. but I don't really like how the CSS example you gave destorys the ability to resize the window (and have the text fill it) as needed. I think my website looks good at basicly any size right now, even macro sized windows, though the logo requires scrolling to see, the text does not fill the 'wider' scroll but the actual window size. (at least in IE.. I should likey get more browsers to test my webpage in I guess..)

The minimum width was an artifact from the original page I made that CSS for. The sample page is now fully re-flowable down to unreadable :)

http://MetalWorkingAtHome.com/cyberlazy/

Your logo can be made to resize in proportion to the window size but the quality will go down as it moves further from the original size. Better, perhaps, is to make it two lines of text in a single image so resizing is less needful.

Here's another useful page all about layout - worth a read: http://960.gs/. Anyway, these are just free ideas from somebody who does it for a living and worth every penny! :)

Black_Moons
08-20-2011, 04:34 PM
The minimum width was an artifact from the original page I made that CSS for. The sample page is now fully re-flowable down to unreadable :)

http://MetalWorkingAtHome.com/cyberlazy/

Your logo can be made to resize in proportion to the window size but the quality will go down as it moves further from the original size. Better, perhaps, is to make it two lines of text in a single image so resizing is less needful.

Anyway, these are just free ideas from somebody who does it for a living and worth every penny! :)

Nice. Any basic sites that will teach me about CSS?

dp
08-20-2011, 04:38 PM
Nice. Any basic sites that will teach me about CSS?


From a couple posts back:

Finally - find a good tutorial site such as Tizag http://www.tizag.com/ and you'll be an expert in a matter of weeks.

Black_Moons
08-20-2011, 05:30 PM
From a couple posts back:

Finally - find a good tutorial site such as Tizag http://www.tizag.com/ and you'll be an expert in a matter of weeks.

Ok cool site, Now I need to find a webbrowser that does not lag to hell apon loading it. (Damnit IE, you used to be vaugely useful, Now you lag 3~15 seconds on any website that has lame ass advertisement/analytical scripts, or sometimes just gives 'OPERATION ABORTED' after fully loading the page, and changes to a blank error page.. And then refuses to let the tab even refresh, locks up if I try.)

So, What webbrowser should I give a shot? Im kinda thinking id like to stay away from chrome, Just to spite google for thier crappy analytic scripts/ads that im pertty sure are half the reason for IE laging to hell on most sites (Iv seen lag occure mainly with google based ads, Even after doing my bests to block every google ad/analytical server in hosts)

dp
08-20-2011, 07:03 PM
You should test your site using Opera, Chrome, Firefox, and Safari. You would be surprised at what happens with simple code in various browsers. And validate your pages from time to time with http://validator.w3.org/

Here's an example of what can happen with different browsers - view this with IE and Firefox:

http://ohs63.com/ClassmatePix/page1.html

This is a class reunion site my wife has just started working on. The classmate pix preview page looks very different between IE and all other browsers. Too much screwing around to fix. The Firefox view is correct.

Peter.
08-21-2011, 02:46 AM
dp thanks a lot for those links. Something to work with there, I'll check out the tutorials too.

dp
08-21-2011, 05:53 PM
My lower back is acting up and I'm not able to move around much without a wheel chair and I got bored so I fiddled with it a bit more:

http://MetalWorkingAtHome.com/cyberlazy