Bought 3/4hp 3phase motor by mistake, what to do with it

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  • dvo
    Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 55

    Bought 3/4hp 3phase motor by mistake, what to do with it

    Other than a door stop what can I use this thing for? rotary phase converter?(I know nothing about the subject matter)
  • Hal
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2005
    • 496

    #2
    Buy a VFD and you have great motor for most anything.

    Hal

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    • Duffy
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 1784

      #3
      Buy a phase convertor to go with it and carry on. A teco convertor will cost about $120.00, and you will NOT be sorry.
      Duffy, Gatineau, Quebec

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      • Forrest Addy
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2002
        • 5792

        #4
        I vote for the VFD (it will cost you about $100). Put the motor on your drill press and you can plug the VFD into a 115V wall outlet. Here's a link:



        You will kiss the ground I walk on for making this suggestion.
        Last edited by Forrest Addy; 09-13-2011, 11:10 PM.

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        • danlb
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 7994

          #5
          Would it be worthwhile to put one of these on a 9x20 lathe, to replace the 3/4 horse that is on there now?

          Dan
          At the end of the project, there is a profound difference between spare parts and left over parts.

          Location: SF East Bay.

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          • Forrest Addy
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2002
            • 5792

            #6
            Originally posted by danlb
            Would it be worthwhile to put one of these on a 9x20 lathe, to replace the 3/4 horse that is on there now?

            Dan
            Hell yes, but you might be happier with a little more HP.

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            • rws
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2003
              • 1429

              #7
              You just can't beat a VFD on a lathe.....

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              • Deus Machina
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 304

                #8
                Originally posted by Forrest Addy
                I vote for the VFD (it will cost you about $100). Put the motor on your drill press and you can plug the VFD into a 115V wall outlet. Here's a link:



                You will kiss the ground I walk on for making this suggestion.
                Well, hello...

                Do those work alright on 110, 15-amp circuits? And do they have a 115 -> 220 single-phase?
                Last edited by Deus Machina; 09-14-2011, 07:53 AM.

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                • BigBoy1
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 1284

                  #9
                  Make your own rotary phase converter

                  I used a small 3-phase motor to build my own rotary phase converter so I can run a larger HP 3-phase motor on my lathe. Your 3/4 HP just might be just the ticket to do something like that.
                  Bill

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                  • J Tiers
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 44397

                    #10
                    use more than 3/4 HP on a 9 x 20?

                    OOOOOOKAAAAAYYYYY

                    Seems like that is enough to take two turns and a half hitch on the bed of a 9 x 20.

                    I have a 1/3 HP on a 10" Logan , and have NEVER had any limitation from the motor whatsoever. And I KNOW that machine can stand a larger motor just fine.

                    JT


                    Originally posted by BigBoy1
                    I used a small 3-phase motor to build my own rotary phase converter so I can run a larger HP 3-phase motor on my lathe. Your 3/4 HP just might be just the ticket to do something like that.
                    The usual rule is the reverse..... A 1 HP RPC for a half horse load, 2HP for 1 HP load, etc.

                    I am not sure how you have the "small" RPC set up to start the "larger" motor on the lathe. if it works, I guess it works, but...
                    CNC machines only go through the motions.

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                    • jep24601
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 1148

                      #11
                      My 13" swing LeBlond came with a 3/4 HP motor.
                      (Though maybe that was to limit damage as it was originally supplied to a high school)
                      "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"

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                      • lakeside53
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 10513

                        #12
                        3/4 hp on a vfd will only give 3/4 hp around it's nominal frequency of 60hz. At say 30hz, you'll get about 3/8 hp..

                        If it worries you (shouldn't) then just set the VFD motor current so that it can only get 1/2 hp out.


                        Yes, you can buy a VFD that runs from 120v, BUT... it won't run on a typicial GFCI (if that bothers you). There is no "fault" - just the vfd noise currents being filtered to ground inside the vfd.

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                        • dvo
                          Member
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 55

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BigBoy1
                          I used a small 3-phase motor to build my own rotary phase converter so I can run a larger HP 3-phase motor on my lathe. Your 3/4 HP just might be just the ticket to do something like that.

                          This sounds like a better use for my little motor. Please elaborate? What was the hp of your rpc and hp of the lathe motor? and what the max hp the rpc can drive?

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                          • Forrest Addy
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 5792

                            #14
                            dvo. I don't think I'm overselling when I suggest you research the VFD ad get some referrals. You havve a several speeds on a lathe, mill, drill whatever. The variable speed feature of the VFD fills in between - an important thing when you need lower speeds than you can gear for.

                            You may wish to avoid what seems like complication but installing a VFD is no more complex than building a phase converter.

                            I'm sure a few will chime in with VFD testimonials. I have four on my machine tools.
                            Last edited by Forrest Addy; 09-14-2011, 06:35 PM.

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                            • ironnut
                              Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 90

                              #15
                              Send it to me

                              Actually Forrest's suggestion is an excellent one. I replaced the 1 hp Taiwanese motor on my 30 year old Grizzly mill with a 3/4 hp 3 phase 1725 rpm motor. It is so sweet. The VFD was just over $100. It will drive a 1 hp 3 phase 220 volt motor while being fed by 120 volt single phase power. It has a surprising amount of torque at low speeds as the VFD can push more current to the motor in an attempt to maintain the speed setting. Reversing is very easy. I love not having to change belt positions to get correct speeds. I can run 3/16" to 1/2" drills with good results, even larger if I take it easy. I would never go back to the single phase motor.

                              I don't believe a rotary phase converter based on a 3/4 motor can safely run a 3 phase motor larger than itself. I thought that typically if you wanted to run a 3 hp 3 phase motor, that you needed a rotary converter based on a 5 hp motor.

                              gordon
                              Last edited by ironnut; 09-14-2011, 07:33 PM.

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