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aboard_epsilon
10-07-2011, 07:21 AM
its this in Aldi UK this Sunday

http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/special_buys3_21057.htm?WT.mc_id=2011-10-07-10-26

Seems to look the part ..maybe could be used for swarf/ chips on our machines ..or builders debris etc

Never seen this idea before (WELL NOT AVAILABLE SO CHEAP) ..have any of you across the pond seen one ..
did it work well ?

all the best.markj

crancshafter
10-07-2011, 08:43 AM
its this in Aldi UK this Sunday

http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/special_buys3_21057.htm?WT.mc_id=2011-10-07-10-26

Seems to look the part ..maybe could be used for swarf/ chips on our machines ..or builders debris etc

Never seen this idea before (WELL NOT AVAILABLE SO CHEAP) ..have any of you across the pond seen one ..
did it work well ?

all the best.markj
Hi.
I live on the other side of the north sea from you, and here they are well known.
Used it for years to empty the woodstove for ash. But swarfs??. You will only know when you have tryed it.
I use the wet'n dry vac. in the shop, would't have been without it.

reg.
CS

MichaelP
10-07-2011, 09:48 AM
Here is one: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88204

The Fixer
10-07-2011, 10:02 AM
My wife would never go for it! Besides where would we keep her when she's not vacuuming........

gwilson
10-07-2011, 10:14 AM
Just a regular "high speed" nozzle? Sears has sold a black plastic one as long as I can recall.

PTSideshow
10-07-2011, 10:16 AM
Yes it is a carry over from the models used by a couple of the chimney sweep companies. The idea is if there are any smoldering bits they won't catch anything else on fire in the vac container.
I have one of these to separate the material out, works great as long as the material is dry. If the stuff is damp/wet it is a pain to clean out the cyclone.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/ptsideshow/Wood%20turning/WT08.jpg
Nothing so far top speak of has made it into the vac tank. And I love the vac it self, it is quite and with the addition of the muffler gizmo in the exhaust wife doesn't complain when I use it in the basement during wood working right below her computer desk location.
I'm sure and of the separator devices would work, I know that one of the plastic lid types that fit the garbage cans say the if used for fireplace and stove ash clean out to use a metal can and not plastic!
:D

lakeside53
10-07-2011, 12:00 PM
I have has something similar for 20 years - 35 gallon garbage can that sits between the source and dust extractor for wood debris. Works great - saves a lot of bag emptying and cleaning. The "lid" sells for about $18.

aboard_epsilon
10-07-2011, 01:01 PM
i don't know if it has a cyclone inside of it .

it may just be a catchment drum and that's it .

hoses would point diagonally in, if it was a cyclonic tub

all the best.markj

MrSleepy
10-07-2011, 01:54 PM
Never seen this idea before (WELL NOT AVAILABLE SO CHEAP)
all the best.markj

That is a good price..

Machinemart do the same thing for 30 and a powered version for 60.

Rob

boslab
10-07-2011, 04:22 PM
its funny, when you go back into the past, that bloody thing was a bin i made to suck up ash from our open fire in the early 70s, im fairly certain that there were others out there but there was no internet to speak of, but never bothered to continue, maybee i should have!, one of a list of failed ideas that never amounted to squat, later on i added a ping pong ball valve to suck up water, another failure! no suprise. wet vacuums were not available then. i certainly am not claiming that it was my invention but truthfully loads of folk must have done the same but as i said there was no internet and patent agents are expensive.
i went to mr dysons workshop in bath, interesting as the 'cyclone' was somthing that had been in existance since the 20s in just about every timberyard, i did mention that fact but was not greeted with an enthusiasic responce.
incidently if you want a prediction the thing called a hydrocyclone has been in use as a method of seperating mill scale from water in the steel industry [and others] since dot, wonder how long it will be before a magic carpet cleaner with wet extraction appears to baffle the public!
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=hydrocyclone&hl=en&sa=X&rlz=1R2SKPB_enGB370&biw=1024&bih=596&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnsb&tbnid=3RE4zNCQYe1VoM:&imgrefurl=http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php%3Fscript%3Dsci_arttext%26pid%3DS0104-66322005000100015&docid=FuQ-rDIMx_PctM&w=507&h=343&ei=T1GPTrfJMofV0QWZ18SMAQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=428&vpy=152&dur=16&hovh=185&hovw=273&tx=149&ty=125&page=1&tbnh=131&tbnw=194&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0

Bill McLeod
10-07-2011, 05:04 PM
lee valley sells something the same, I have not tried it
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=30282&cat=1,42401&ap=1

lakeside53
10-07-2011, 10:00 PM
That's what I have, but the price has gone way up in the past few decades :)

huntinguy
10-07-2011, 11:03 PM
http://homepage3.nifty.com/amigos/57_cyclone_dust_collector/cyclone_dust_collector-e.htm

I also think there was plans and a good write-up on one in the Machinist magazine, but it was a fair sized one.

darryl
10-08-2011, 01:08 AM
I've built a couple of those- from particle board or mdf. Mine are just square but tallish boxes with the inlet port angled to direct the flow around the inside walls. The inlet is about two thirds of the way up from the bottom, and the outlet port to the vacuum cleaner is on the top center. The debris sucked up tends to get trapped in the corners.

Not that I would use if for ash, but any shop debris that is capable of making it through the hose is fair game. If the container was waterproof, you could suck up water. But that's your basic shop vac- only difference being where the vacuum pump/motor was located.

danlb
10-08-2011, 02:08 AM
I just use a 2 gallon shop vac with a clear, smooth walled vinyl hose. It sucks up swarf like there is no tomorrow and have not had a jam as far back as I can remember. It is dedicated to shop use.

I try to remember to empty it between jobs so I don't end up with a combination of cutting oil, cast iron dust and fine aluminum shavings at once. It sounds too close to thermite.

Dan

gary350
10-08-2011, 10:11 AM
Shop vac works great for me in the shop.

I just bought a barrel vacuum, it is a shop vac type motor on a 55 gallon drum top. Top clamps on to the barrel with a large metal ring.

cuemaker
10-08-2011, 10:42 AM
My little 2 gallon shop vac is on its last legs...have had it for near 10years with off and on heavy use....

What is a good replacement these days? I prefere the smaller sizes..much more handy