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torker
12-25-2011, 07:56 AM
I've been drooling over an old (from the 50's) 15X50 Leblond...tryin to figure a place to put it and figure how I'd load/unload it from my flatdeck.
Any idea how much these weigh? The pics I got...it looks pretty massive.
Thanks!
Russ

flylo
12-25-2011, 09:29 AM
I just bought a '50s era 17x60,pics are posted & found the weights some where & thought it weighed about 4000#+. Yours will be lighter. Mine also has a cabinet base under both ends instead of one & legs under the tail. I do not recomend this but they loaded it with forklift forks under the chip pan & I unloaded it the same way just picked it up a few inches & pulled the pickup out from under it & set it down. I would sling it if I were you. Great old lathes. Please post pics & if you need a manual PM you e-mail. Also the serial number is stamped on the flat part of the ways near or under the tailstock. Thanks! Eric

duckman
12-25-2011, 09:32 AM
Its not quite the same but my old Monarch 16X54 weighed more than 5,000#.

torker
12-25-2011, 11:32 AM
flylo...this one has heavy looking cabinet bases under both ends as well. The bed alone looks about 10" or maybe more deep. Very heavy looking lathe.

wierdscience
12-25-2011, 12:27 PM
Is it the same basic design from the ones near the bottom of this page?

http://www.lathes.co.uk/regal/page3.html

hardtail
12-25-2011, 12:33 PM
If it's the one up by me that one has been advertised for a loooong time and can't help but wonder why? I could go have a look for you if you've spoken with the owner and are really interested?

torker
12-25-2011, 12:41 PM
Darrin...thanks for the link. Never thought of Tony's page... found the model...it's a "Dual Drive"
No mention of a lathe this size but the short bed (30") weighs 2500lbs. It does say that the bed is very heavy on these. Hmmm...there's some differences in way configuration however...one is better than the other???
Have to ask some more qhestions...it's an 11 hour drive to look at it...
Russ

torker
12-25-2011, 12:42 PM
If it's the one up by me that one has been advertised for a loooong time and can't help but wonder why? I could go have a look for you if you've spoken with the owner and are really interested?
Lance...I bet that's the one. I may get you to have a look after he asnwers a few more questions. Thanks bud!
Russ

flylo
12-25-2011, 01:13 PM
I really like mine. The 17" is the smallest of the larger Regal series 17-19-21-23 & 25" I believe & has the same speed dial as the one on the UK site only looks in better shape & mine has 17" cast into the head. Also there is a yahoo Leblond forum which has the link to how to run a regal all 89 pages of it. It was under power & working fine but I plan on changing the oil & adjusting anything needed. To be an old lathe it seems quite tight. I'm really glad to get it. Good Luck I hope it turns out to be a good one.

flylo
12-25-2011, 01:21 PM
Question. I've noticed some older lathes go by bed length not length between the centers like they do now. Mine is aprox 60" between the chuck & tailstock so is calling it a 17x60 correct?

sasquatch
12-25-2011, 03:01 PM
Have no idea about the weight, but a friend of mine also has the 17x60.


I got the serial # from it and emailed Leblond for him and they sent back that his lathe was shipped from the factory in 1910.

If you have the serial # it,s interesting to find out the age.

Sorry i no longer have their email, but googling brought it up i think.

flylo
12-25-2011, 03:33 PM
The years are also on the Yahoo forum. I could not find the number. I think the bed was reground but did talk to Leblond, he thought late '50s & found out it takes plain 30 wt non detergent oil(mineral oil)& a lot of it,9 Qts in the head if I recall.

Black_Moons
12-25-2011, 05:47 PM
Question. I've noticed some older lathes go by bed length not length between the centers like they do now. Mine is aprox 60" between the chuck & tailstock so is calling it a 17x60 correct?

Remove the chuck and measure with centers in, Usally the chuck takes away another 4" or so at least.

But at 60", Another 4 is just bragging rights :)
And maybe a little OCD candy for those who like binary. (its a 16x64!)

jdunmyer
12-25-2011, 06:04 PM
I think my Regal is a 19X54, made in 1949. The pictures on Tony's site could be of mine.

I love it, but it has 2 drawbacks: it has a threaded spindle, and top speed is only 425 RPM. OTOH:, the slow speeds are 20, 30, and 45 RPM, so threading to a shoulder is easy.

No idea of the weight, sorry. If I was going to haul it very far and had to unload it without a hoist or forklift, I'd strongly consider bolting 2, 4X4's about 4' long across both ends, then bolt 2 long 4X4's to those, going lengthwise. That would make the lathe a lot less tippy and give you something to put rollers under. If you can't get good oak 4X4's, you should probably go to 4X6's or 6X6's for the long pieces.

hardtail
12-25-2011, 06:08 PM
Russ purge some PM's, got a message for ya........

flylo
12-25-2011, 06:21 PM
Must be 17"x66" because the chart I have says they start at 30" & go in 12" increments. Mine is slow also with the threaded spindle & a small faceplate which we mounted the chuck on with no problem. He thinks he has the 16" faceplate to go with it(i hope so)I have an extra 12" threaded chuck the next threaded spindle size up from mine. A Cushman 3 jaw in great shape. Thanks!

quasi
12-25-2011, 09:24 PM
if it is from the 50's and the handle on the tailstock is angled toward the operator side, it is not a Regal but the much heavier duty (and heavier weight wise) Leblond.

flylo
12-25-2011, 09:51 PM
That's actually what the guy at Leblond said that it was the heavier duty Leblond. He didn't mention the handle but I thought all Leblonds of that era were Regals so it went over my head. Anyway I sure like it. Right now it's sitting next to my 6x18 Atlas which it looks like it could swallow in 1 bite.LOL!

torker
12-25-2011, 11:12 PM
Russ purge some PM's, got a message for ya........
Done! sorry...

Putch
12-28-2011, 08:50 PM
The LeBlond book says the net weight of the 15 x 30 is 2425 lbs. I just got a 17 x 30 and the way we got it in my little garage was to lift it onto my buddy's roll-off trailer with a front loader, then wedged it up onto some 1" pipe and eased it down with the winch (harder than it sounds but after moving it a few times, it's not as scary as it was before!):eek:

torker
12-28-2011, 10:46 PM
Sorry guys...this one is a Dual Drive actually...still waiting to hear from the owner..

flylo
12-28-2011, 10:48 PM
I hope you like it as well as I like mine. I haven't turned anything yet. I'm going thru & changing oil,etc. I don't have it placed yet where it will live.