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oldtiffie
02-21-2012, 01:20 AM
http://www.zdnet.com.au/google-bypassed-ie-privacy-too-microsoft-339332092.htm?ocid=nl_WIN_21022012_fea_2

http://www.zdnet.com.au/microsoft-flags-googlecom-as-malicious-339331844.htm

Any thoughts, comments?

dp
02-21-2012, 01:42 AM
I'm not affected as google.com is blocked in my web proxy along with a long list of googleized URL's. I'm a google-free zone. It's amazing how fast the web works when you do that.

.RC.
02-21-2012, 03:08 AM
who cares, all they will find out with me is a list of good porn sites....


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tool porn that is...

lazlo
02-21-2012, 08:29 AM
http://www.zdnet.com.au/google-bypassed-ie-privacy-too-microsoft-339332092.htm?ocid=nl_WIN_21022012_fea_2

Wow, Safari too. Between this and the latest privacy policy, Google has taken Microsoft's crown as the Evil Empire.



"In the wake of reports that Google had sidestepped privacy settings in Safari, Microsoft has announced that it has discovered the web giant had done the same with Internet Explorer."


Ironic that they haven't bypassed the cookie security on Chrome, their own browser?


As an aside, did you see that Facebook paid AdBlock to pass-through the Facebook Ads? Can't have a $5 Billion company with no revenue... :rolleyes:

wb2vsj
02-21-2012, 08:41 AM
If you are worried about being tracked by Google & others, you can install some tracking blockers - I use Ghostery, but there are lots of others.

For example - the HSM site only tracks us using Google Analytics. CNN has 5 trackers, I've encountered sites that had up to 14 different trackers per webpage.

You can also use a non tracking search engine for anonymous searching:
For example:
https://www.startpage.com/

All part of surfing the web :)

Walt

wb2vsj
02-21-2012, 08:46 AM
As an aside, did you see that Facebook paid AdBlock to pass-through the Facebook Ads? Can't have a $5 Billion company with no revenue... :rolleyes:

Interesting! I suppose you can still manually add it in?

dp
02-21-2012, 11:34 AM
Here is a company that has created a way to make third-party cookies appear to be first-party cookies so that your attempts to block third-party cookies can be subverted.

http://trueffect.com/

These people just don't get it - No means NO!

fixerdave
02-21-2012, 05:04 PM
MS is a bit over the top on this one... the standard THEY wrote a long time ago supports allowing certain cookies in a special way. It is a generally ignored standard that supporting, at this point, would break a lot of websites - not just Google's. This is, of course, Google's response.

If you are worried about tracking then don't use Google. Really, they track most everything they can - it's how they make money. If you really want to go anonymous, there are ways but it's a lot of work. Besides, Google offers some pretty cool stuff, stuff they can afford to offer by selling all that information about you. I mean, you could use paid sites instead... but they you have to make the money to pay them and making that money is just selling yourself in another way.

As for AdBlock. Yeah, they now have a system that allows some advertisements based on a white-list. You can opt-out if you want but the intent is to let sites make some money, so long as they don't put up those annoying FLASHING crud adverts. You know, the ones that seems to dominate every non-Google page, on the rare times I'm using a browser without AdBlock. I'm not surprised AdBlock is selling places on the white list. They want money too.

It always surprises me when people think the Internet is somehow private. It's not, it has to be the least private way of communicating there is. Just because you don't know how to get that tracking information doesn't mean it doesn't exist. They're computers, they do numbers, they remember for as long as the people running them want, often forever. You want private, mail a letter with no return address. Call someone from a payphone. Stake a note on their door with a hunting knife if you really feel the need. But, sending electronic communication, in any form, that you want to keep private is just plain silly. With computers, the only thing keeping the entire world from knowing who you are, where you've been, and what you said are a bunch of privacy laws :rolleyes:

David...

aboard_epsilon
02-21-2012, 06:04 PM
You can opt out of a lot of the stuff that google does ..
not sure weather you can go to this page if youre not a member of google ..which i am .

here's all the opt out stuff


http://www.google.co.uk/intl/en/privacy/tools.html

i like the new feature, that i can now block google search results from ever appearing again ....like alibaba.com

and other sites that just list stuff on other sites

all the best.markj

beanbag
02-22-2012, 12:37 AM
I'm not affected as google.com is blocked in my web proxy along with a long list of googleized URL's. I'm a google-free zone. It's amazing how fast the web works when you do that.

How do you search the internet?

danlb
02-22-2012, 12:58 AM
I find it interesting that they accuse Google of subverting Apple's browser, when in fact they are using the same technique no matter what browser is being used and regardless of the privacy setting.

Should the headlines not read "Apple and MS fail to implement their 'private browsing' effectively!" ????

I'm sure google has a good picture of my browsing, but using adblock (opted out of the 'paid is OK' ads) and noscript means they have only a partial view. :) I take that as the price of using their free services.

Dan

SGW
02-22-2012, 08:13 AM
I use Firefox with the add-ons AdblockPlus, NoScript, and Better Privacy, and have Firefox set to delete all cookies upon exit. I'm sure I still get tracked to some degree, but it ought to help.

Tony Ennis
02-22-2012, 08:22 AM
As an aside, did you see that Facebook paid AdBlock to pass-through the Facebook Ads?

Brilliant business model on adblocker. Give it away to individuals. This prevents them from having any sort of say in the service it provides. Then, block ads except for those paid to not be blocked. Pure evil. I like it.

dp
02-22-2012, 09:49 AM
Brilliant business model on adblocker. Give it away to individuals. This prevents them from having any sort of say in the service it provides. Then, block ads except for those paid to not be blocked. Pure evil. I like it.


Now you know why email spam is never going to go away.