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dogdoctor
03-10-2012, 03:19 AM
Just spent $100 on 2metres by 1 inch of 303 stainless bar. Cut off 50mm with my ancient power hacksaw, put it in the 3 jaw and drilled and bored out to 15.85mm to fit a shaft. I was just admiring the snug fit(still a novelty for me) when I noticed a crack extending along the whole length which extended through the wall of the bored part. It was up to 0.5mm wide in places
Did I do something wrong or is the metal dodgy?
Regards
David

+ or - Zero
03-10-2012, 04:24 AM
At a guess, I'd suspect that unless you were using flood cooling the heat stress on a wall that thin in a three jaw was the root cause. 303 builds heat at the cutter tip so where that thin wall is gripped by a jaw it can create quite a heat stress line down the work bore.

I could easily be way off on this guess, I just know that 303 likes flood cooling when being worked.

winchman
03-10-2012, 04:54 AM
You might get better results by cutting a longer piece so 2" sticks out of the chuck. Turn the OD to the final size, drill/bore the ID, and part off.

Asquith
03-10-2012, 05:06 AM
Possibly a stringer (slag inclusion).

Have a look elsewhere on the bar, using a magnifying glass.

The stringer (if that's what it is) shouldn't be very long, so make the next sleeve from the other end of the bar!

Toolguy
03-10-2012, 11:12 AM
That sounds like a bad piece of material to me. 303 is soft enough it shouldn't crack like that.

Black_Moons
03-10-2012, 01:47 PM
'snug fit' Do you mean it sliped on with hand force, or was it a press fit you hammered/pressed on?

goose
03-10-2012, 01:54 PM
Defective material.

dogdoctor
03-12-2012, 05:00 AM
all the people who voted for a defect in the metal. Went to the supplier today who sugested ( as several people here did) to check the bar i cut the 50mm bit off. Sure enough there was an identicla crack extending about 300mm up the bar. They are going to replace the bar and threw a huge bit of leaded free machining rod for nothing.
If you send a self addressed envelope you will receive a hand engraved Steinlager bottle top as a prize
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h333/doctordog1/d56c19b3.jpg

The marks in the mill table were done by the previous owner
regards
david

Asquith
03-12-2012, 05:25 AM
Thanks for the feedback.

dogdoctor
03-12-2012, 05:34 AM
bigger picture , I hope

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h333/doctordog1/48c65e6f.jpg

boslab
03-12-2012, 05:35 AM
In sheet its called a lamination, probably the same in bar, the crap in the crack is normally slag/al203/mould powder from the billet caster, it arrives due in part to mis alligned rolls in the caster, could be a segment out or a support bearing failed, the solidification requires a 'head' of ferrostatic pressure to feed the solidification point, if the billet gets to hit a bump the head of pressure gets cut off and a centre line lamination occurs.
Glad they fessed up and dropped you a bit of bar!
regards
mark