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loose nut
05-27-2012, 04:56 PM
I have a small lathe (9 x 20) I would like to sell, no this is not an ad, what is the best way to go about it.

I have placed it on Craigslist but they limit you to one location which in my case is mostly farm country and a small city near by. This limits the number of potential buyers. Since this is a one time thing, going to E-bay, which I don't use anyway, is not an option. Local sales ads (newspapers) have the same viewing area as Craigslist so there isn't much in that either.

Isn't there a better way to get the word out. Manual machinery, for sale, is scares in this area and there always seem to be someone looking for it but getting in touch with potential buyers is a pita.:(

winchman
05-27-2012, 05:15 PM
The last couple ads I put on GL got me a lot of responses from women(?) wanting to meet for drinks, wanting me to sign up on a chat site, or wanting me to look at dirty pictures. I also got several offers for "loans". I got zero responses relating to the items I was trying to sell.

The scumbags can and will ruin anything.

Frank Ford
05-27-2012, 05:30 PM
Faced with that problem a dozen years ago, I thought long and hard about how much I really needed the money, and found a worthy institution ready to accept a donation. Since then I've given to friends or donated all my old tools as they have been squeezed out of the shop by newcomers.

By now, that amounts to an ancient 11" Southbend lathe, an 11" Taiwanese lathe, 6" disk/belt sander, 6" jointer, a table saw, a couple of old ShopSmiths, and lots of small things.

Call it "paying forward," or whatever you want - as I grow older, it seems more like the thing to do all the time.

Boucher
05-27-2012, 05:34 PM
Could there have been a misprint on your handle? Wenchman???

Carld
05-27-2012, 05:38 PM
Is there and auctioneer near you that does machinery? If so try to put it in one of his auctions. You may want to put a minimum on it or the house may buy it for cheap unless he is an honest auctioneer.

sasquatch
05-27-2012, 06:17 PM
loose nut,, what about Kijiji Ontario?

I'd personally stay away from auctions,, good place to be if your'e "BUYING" , but if your'e selling you can go to a lot of work moving it there, then either it doesn;t sell past the reserve you have on it, then you end up moving it back again.

Auctions up in my area are slowly fading out,, low prices, plus commissions have to be paid, a lot of set up time, and of course the advertising has to be paid for,,, all OUT of the sales.

gwilson
05-27-2012, 07:04 PM
We have a "Trading Post" around here. It is a newspaper sort of local magazine started out by a group of teachers. It is all want ads and for sales. You list your item,and pay a percentage to the Trading Post after the item gets sold. It is very handy,and I've bought and sold several things over the years.

You could try putting an ad in your local newspaper,though many don't subscribe to them anymore.

On the other hand,I,too,have given many tools to worthy aspiring newer craftsmen in Colonial Williamsburg,where I was a master for 39 years.

customcutter
05-27-2012, 07:15 PM
You could list it on Ebay Classified. Do a google search and it should come up, not the regular ebay. I've sold a few small items there. Also try listing in on CL at the nearest large town, that may get more reaction.

Ken

ammcoman2
05-27-2012, 07:36 PM
Second the use of Kijiji. You can place the same ads in different locations - say larger towns near you, and TO?

Perhaps McGyver could chip in as he is the pro around here. One thing I have decided that sells items are photographs, good ones, of a really clean machine. No junk lying around. All the accessories listed.

Good luck.

Geoff

Mcgyver
05-27-2012, 07:51 PM
Perhaps McGyver could chip in as he is the pro around here.

lol got to be good at something right? shoulda been use machinery dealer :eek:

I agree the pics are hugely important, I put a bunch of effort into them. Pick a reasonable price (don't just guess, do some research so you price is defensible) then be patient....you have to wait for the buyer of whatever you have happens along. might be months - I want the guy who searches for what i have 2 months from now, not the one who's ready to come tearing over the afternoon i put the add up...the former is a qualified and will pay a reasonable price, the later is a toolaholic's price induced fit (kind of what i do!) and means i priced it too low.

its marketing/selling after all, imo an effort to make it look attractive pays off.

here's a myford for I sold a couple of years ago for example.

http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy132/michael01000/myford/edited1Large.jpg

oldtiffie
05-27-2012, 07:56 PM
I think it was McGyver recently who - if I recall correctly - more or less said that for some categories if a "for free" sign is put up it goes pretty quickly and if you put a price on it - even a small one - it really takes a while to go.

Extending that a little it seems that if you want to get rid of it quickly - advertise it (your cost) for free otherwise you might be stuck with it unless or until you eventually have to lower your price to an almost give-away level.

Its more of a probelm if you need the space in the shop for something else that you have bought and you are stuck for room.

Its an even bigger problem if you need to sell it for a reasonable price if you are counting on the sale cash to buy the new item or for other purposes.

There are other options of course.

loose nut
05-27-2012, 08:12 PM
Forgot about KIJIJI I will post there too.

Don't really need the space. Yet

Do need the money but it's not urgent. Can't afford to be a good Samaritan. Sorry.

Bob Fisher
05-27-2012, 08:40 PM
Have had nothing but good results using CL. Never a crank call or even a woman! Bought and sold a few things, all good solid deals for both parties. I believe you can post on CL in different areas, but I could be wrong on that, Otherwise, works for me. Bob F.

Ohio Mike
05-28-2012, 01:16 AM
For Craigslist I wouldn't even put a phone number. Make them respond. I've bought a number of things from CL and never had an issue. I have a friend that has sold on CL and always has stories about the idiots. You'll know right away if someone is really interested. If they can put together a sentence and ask an honest question you're good to go. If first thing off they ask about the price you can blow them off. They're either a tire kicker or a bottom feeder.

Side note about this. I bought my first lathe off CL and the guy selling it was pretty firm on the price but it was higher than most. Most people couldn't get past that, however I was more interested in what the condition was. Especially since it was recently painted which was a red flag for me. Turns out the guy worked in the industry for years and had put hundreds of dollars worth of parts in the machine. So compared to those "cheaper" machines it was a steal.

vpt
05-28-2012, 11:09 AM
Put it out in the yard with a sign on it.

flylo
05-28-2012, 12:45 PM
I use craigslist & don't put my e-mail as I'm not looking for a pen pal. I don't post pics either. If they're serious they'll call & I'll send pics. No text either. I've only had 1 guy not show. I choose to sell it fast & a little less than it's worth. If i get someone that lowballs me I just reply "I'll consider that that if the 3 guys waiting for me to call don't take it". Normally their hand goes right to the wallet. I don't care to wait 2 month & show it to 20 people. You make your money on the buy. It's worked very well for me. ;)

Mcgyver
05-28-2012, 02:26 PM
I use craigslist & don't put my e-mail as I'm not looking for a pen pal. I don't post pics either. If they're serious they'll call & I'll send pics. No text either. ;)

that is the direct opposite of my experience....the best buys are the no pic ones as few bother with them, same with no price ads....and I only post an email addy. I don't want calls interrupting and wasting time until they're qualified.


I don't care to wait 2 month & show it to 20 people. You make your money on the buy. It's worked very well for me.

I usually show it to one person, the buyer, sometimes it takes awhile for him to enter the market. around here you would never show it to 20, most more or less want a deal in place before they get in the car as time is too valuable

flylo
05-28-2012, 03:25 PM
Different area, different type of people. I used to sell a few planes & always got the "do I need training to fly type e-mail". The folks that call are looking for what I listed, not usually tire kickers. Works for me but you system works for you. C/L is quick,easy & free.:D

nctox
05-28-2012, 03:47 PM
I've bought a few things on CL, but I won't waste my time calling about an ad that doesn't have a picture. If you'll notice the number of times an ad WITH a pic doesn't match what is being described, you will see why I feel that way.

flylo
05-28-2012, 04:05 PM
I've bought a few things on CL, but I won't waste my time calling about an ad that doesn't have a picture. If you'll notice the number of times an ad WITH a pic doesn't match what is being described, you will see why I feel that way.


Just curious how an ad without a picture relates to an ad with a fake picture? If someone is serious they call & I send a picture of the actual item.

Mcgyver
05-28-2012, 04:19 PM
C/L is quick,easy & free.:D

does kijiji get much attention there? here, CL is a ghost town in comparison. kijiji is an easier on the eye format, lets you look province wide and each listing has a pic beside it....over the last couple of years because of that (or at least thats my take) seems they've largely taken over.

flylo
05-28-2012, 05:20 PM
Never used it. I'll see.

metalmagpie
05-28-2012, 05:58 PM
The problem started when you bought a Chinese 9x20 lathe and expected to be able to sell it. If anyone wants one of those they just buy one new. Around here you simply can't give one of those away.

The best thing to do is to donate it to a tax-exempt entity and write it off your taxes. If you claim its value at $600 and are in the 15% tax bracket that puts $90 into your pocket with minimal effort. You don't have to include all the accessories either, you can continue to list those.

I think the problem is with your expectation, not your market. You need to price it right. Sadly (for you) that price might be startlingly low, but that may just be about the best you can do.

metalmagpie

sasquatch
05-28-2012, 06:03 PM
Just my opinion, but here in Ontario Kijiji is the way to go!!

cijuanni
05-28-2012, 07:43 PM
I am in a similar boat,,, very small remote town.

I just wait till I am in the Big City for a couple of days and bring my sell items with me. Place the CL ad a day or so before I arrive, price it right and most stuff is gone as soon as I hit town.

morehelium
05-28-2012, 08:31 PM
CL doesn't limit itself to where you are, just won't let you post the same ad in multiple cities.

So, post an ad to whatever large town is nearby. A few days later, reword the title and the ad a bit and post it to another city.

Be descriptive and take some decent pictures. Ads with clear pics and a phone # will get attention.

The Craigslist search function does bring up ads from nearby cities now as well.

I've had excellent results with CL, just bend their rules a bit...

nctox
05-29-2012, 09:24 AM
Just curious how an ad without a picture relates to an ad with a fake picture? If someone is serious they call & I send a picture of the actual item.
As for me, an ad with a pic from a catalog is the same as an ad without a pic. That's just the way I feel about it.:)

oldtiffie
05-29-2012, 09:51 AM
The problem started when you bought a Chinese 9x20 lathe and expected to be able to sell it. If anyone wants one of those they just buy one new. Around here you simply can't give one of those away.

The best thing to do is to donate it to a tax-exempt entity and write it off your taxes. If you claim its value at $600 and are in the 15% tax bracket that puts $90 into your pocket with minimal effort. You don't have to include all the accessories either, you can continue to list those.

I think the problem is with your expectation, not your market. You need to price it right. Sadly (for you) that price might be startlingly low, but that may just be about the best you can do.

metalmagpie

If that were in Australia it would only apply if the item was listed on your depreciation schedule as a registered business. If on the other hand sell it you realise more than the written down value that additional sum is taxable.

If the seller were not a business - even a hobbiest - there is no gain for him as its a complete write-off but any gains are non-taxable - up to a limit.

DR
05-29-2012, 03:30 PM
If it's any consolation to the OP......things just don't seem to be selling very well in general. I'm near a large city with a relatively affluent population. I see things on CL that look to me like they're priced very reasonably, so reasonable that even if I don't "need" it sometimes I consider buying just because it's a bargain.

I'm always surprised when I see the item repeatedly re-listed.

It's either the economy or there's so much good stuff on CL lately.

spongerich
05-29-2012, 09:05 PM
Since this is a one time thing, going to E-bay, which I don't use anyway, is not an option.

Just curious why eBay isn't an option. It takes about 5 minutes to setup an eBay and PayPal account. You only pay fees if your item sells. I've sold close to 500 items there including a couple of lathes and never had a problem.

loose nut
05-29-2012, 09:25 PM
I have never had anything to do with E-bay and I don't see any reason to start now.

As far as donating it for a tax break, in Canada, forget it, not enough in it to make it worth the time to do it.

I'm not going to give it away, if it doesn't sell, that's OK, I'll find another use for it.

sasquatch
05-29-2012, 09:34 PM
From different postings here and there EBAY seems to have some sort of problems, One i believe was shipping to or from Canada.

lakeside53
05-29-2012, 09:39 PM
Just lie about your location or say "my shop" etc.. Advertise it in say Toronto. It will sell. They do in Seattle for $400-700 depending on Manf and tooling.

spongerich
05-30-2012, 11:26 PM
From different postings here and there EBAY seems to have some sort of problems, One i believe was shipping to or from Canada.

That's not a problem with eBay, that's a problem with the USPS / Canada Post.
Shipping to/from Canada can get expensive for large items. Smaller stuff that fits in USPS flat rate boxes isn't too bad as long as it's below the international weight limits.

Shipping a late internationally probably isn't something worth doing unless it's a very special one.

Paul Alciatore
05-31-2012, 12:50 AM
There are other boards that do allow for sale topics. In your situation I would probably try one or more of them.

This one has two forums for selling machines and tooling:

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/

Scroll down to the Commerce section.

Here's another one, again you need to scroll down the list of forums:

http://www.hobby-machinist.com/forum.php?

And I believe most Yahoo boards allow such postings. They probably have one dedicated to your brand of lathe.

http://groups.yahoo.com

There are probably a lot more.

CLARKMAG
06-01-2012, 10:53 PM
I sold my Clausing 5914 lathe on practical machinist for $1000.

I sold my South Bend shaper on craigs list for $1000.

I have bought a couple machines off Ebay.

I have got one big machine at auction.

I have bought new machines on the internet.

I think Craig's List is the best deal. You may have to lower the price so they will drive out in the sticks, but they will come.

A minty original paint Clausing 8520 for $1000 will get them to drive half way across the country.