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goose
05-28-2012, 07:54 PM
There I was having a great David Attenborough moment, and it had to come to an end. Like, can't we keep her as a pet ? Pickle jar ? terrarium? no?

http://www.hammerscale.com/images-global/blackwidow.jpg

customcutter
05-28-2012, 08:13 PM
You made her into a "good" spider.

Ken

oldtiffie
05-28-2012, 08:35 PM
That looks like one of our Red Back spiders in Australia - not one of the "nice" ones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_back_spider

We have always had them here and there are some nests in dark hidden corners. We had them in the "night soil" (ie "weekly can/pan") service outside toilet - we had to be very careful day and night not to disturb or upset those spiders. We since long ago upgraded to septic and then mains sewer - but we've still got the spiders.

My wife even had them in the clothes (external drying) line but she's a country girl who can handle them. She was just careful when hanging out and bringing in the clothes.

I think the OP's wife was right to kill that and any similar spiders.

We have quite a range of spiders here - most but not all of which won't bite - but they knock of some insects and the birds knock off the spiders and occassionally some of the territorial birds knock off each other.

It must be quite lively in some of the darker spots here at night.

customcutter
05-28-2012, 08:48 PM
In the USA they are called Black Widows, known for the red "hour glass" on their backs. Same spider just called something else "down under".:D

Ken

lakeside53
05-28-2012, 09:38 PM
We have many spiders in the house. They eat all the other bugs. Some even live under the couch. If they come out, we just shoo them back. If they get pestiverous, they get put outside.

Spin Doctor
05-28-2012, 10:37 PM
.357 or 12 guage?

dp
05-28-2012, 10:39 PM
We have many spiders in the house. They eat all the other bugs. Some even live under the couch. If they come out, we just shoo them back. If they get pestiverous, they get put outside.


In our area (Pacific Northwet) we have two kinds of roaming spiders - giant house spiders, and hobo spiders. The giant house spiders get a free pass from me for the reasons you said but I kill the hobos. Both bite, but the hobo bite will and has caused necrosis. I have a 3/4" patch on my leg that took years to heal after a hobo went up my pant leg. My wife is spider intolerant and has me kill anything with eight legs, good or bad :)

I've seen only one black widow spider in Washington state and that was in Moses Lake. It had just captured a cricket in a field where I was pheasant hunting. I opted not to sleep under the stars that night ;)

armedandsafe
05-28-2012, 10:56 PM
It does appear to be a Black Widow, except for that white and black dot in the hourglass. That has me puzzled.

Pops

Willy
05-28-2012, 10:58 PM
In the USA they are called Black Widows, known for the red "hour glass" on their backs. Same spider just called something else "down under".:D

Ken

All the female black widow spiders I have ever seen had the telltale red hourglass marking on it's belly, not it's back.
Ya have to tickle their tummy with your little finger so they roll over.;)
The OP's pic looks like it's a belly shot as well.

This from Texas A&M (http://insects.tamu.edu/fieldguide/cimg368.html)



The red is usually an hourglass-shaped mark on the underside (venter) of the abdomen...........

tdmidget
05-29-2012, 01:06 AM
Sure! Now you tell me! She eats fireants, boll weevils and scorpions? Coulda been our national spider!
Actually I have been bitten by one. It is VERY painful and is not a short term thing. In my case I felt it and smacked it. A guy next to me said OMG that's a black widow! It was and I went to the track Doc right away. (I was was working as a firefighter at a race track at the time., He said that all he had that might help was Benadryl and it seemed to help.) The initial bite was like a red hot nail driven in, It turned in to a hard area, very painful. I was lucky that it did not get to administer the full dose of venom. It was 6 weeks before the hard spot and pain began to subside.

lakeside53
05-29-2012, 02:52 AM
In our area (Pacific Northwet) we have two kinds of roaming spiders - giant house spiders, and hobo spiders. The giant house spiders get a free pass from me for the reasons you said but I kill the hobos. Both bite, but the hobo bite will and has caused necrosis. I have a 3/4" patch on my leg that took years to heal after a hobo went up my pant leg. My wife is spider intolerant and has me kill anything with eight legs, good or bad :)



My wife is the one that lets them run up on her hand so she can put them outside. Not me... spending a bunch of time in Austrailia tuned up my fight-flight responses:D


I should probably take a closer look at the spiders up in my barn - they sure look like Black Widows to me... Pretty sure they are not black house spiders. Second thoughts, I think I'll have the wife id them ;)

Deus Machina
05-29-2012, 03:08 AM
Florida is a pretty bad part of the US, as far as wildlife is concerned. Everything wants to kill you, and a lot of stuff that actually can looks a lot like some of the stuff that wants to but can't.

I don't trust anything with eight legs. Wolf spiders are cool and get a pass on a good day, but I don't let anything else around. Black widows like my garage, and brown recluse are known to like dressers.

Oh, and go out and burn that ball thing in the web. I believe it's an egg basket.

.RC.
05-29-2012, 07:15 AM
In the USA they are called Black Widows, known for the red "hour glass" on their backs. Same spider just called something else "down under".:D

Ken


The Black Widow and Red back spiders are related but not the same...

An interesting fact about the redback is the male is consumed by the female while mating... In fact the male encourages the behaviour by putting itself into a position that makes it easier for the female to start eating it..

oldtiffie
05-29-2012, 08:33 AM
I've been told that some women are scared of hairy spiders with hairy legs as it reminds them of the hands of some blokes - and the blokes.

Void
05-29-2012, 10:53 AM
One thing about keeping a female Black Widow spider is... note the egg sack. If you just grab her and destroy the egg sack OK... but what if she makes another one in the little terrarium that you can't see? Once they hatch the baby spiders are very tiny. Almost microscopic. They will easily skip out of any air holes or screens on your terrarium. There can be hundreds of babies though usually less than a hundred survive.

Some species can produce up to four egg sacks from one mating.

I usually stick it all in a jar with a tight lid and dump it out miles from where I live. I also vacuum the entire area where they were found and dump the bag in the trash.

-DU-

A.K. Boomer
05-29-2012, 11:17 AM
Like Willy stated black widows have the marking on their belly, from what I can tell that markings on the spiders back so it might be the other so many are talking about,,,
The BW get's it's name by eating its mate also.

as far as the hourglass thing im told there can be many variations of it, real small and much bigger and slightly different shapes and maybe even a little yellow or white thrown into the mix, no expert here but we got allot of them where im from...

I don't like them but im much more concerned about the brown recluse - and we got them too...

Harvey Melvin Richards
05-29-2012, 12:19 PM
At my house we use a cordless Dyson vacuum to transport indoor spiders to their new outdoor living quarters.

Yesterday I was pulling some plastic off the garden and there was a black widow on the underside. Her abdomen was around 1/2" in diameter. I flicked her off in the grass and later thought I maybe should have been more permanent about her removal.

On the front of our house we are having a huge baby spider hatch. I quite sure these little guys are catface spiders, so I let them live. They are great bug catchers, and never try to invade the house.

http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz35/HarveyMelvinRichards/SPIDERS.jpg

Alistair Hosie
05-29-2012, 03:33 PM
are they edible you could have aleg each .:D :D:D Alistair

TRX
05-29-2012, 06:01 PM
We have many spiders in the house. They eat all the other bugs. Some even live under the couch. If they come out, we just shoo them back. If they get pestiverous, they get put outside.y

I used to know a guy who kept pet tarantulas loose in the house. He said they were nocturnal and retiring, and mostly lived under the furniture.

I'm not arachnophobic, but I think one of them would get annoyed if I stepped on it on a nightly trip to the bathroom...

Grind Hard
05-29-2012, 09:42 PM
I escort buglife outside. Female companion is tolerant of my behavior... It took some convincing but she's to the point where she doesn't shoe-bash every critter that crosses her path.

bob308
05-29-2012, 11:17 PM
we don't have many sipders here. the snakes eat them all. we have black snakes in the basement and atic. only ever ran into one snake in the house. but we have lots of skins in the house.

TGTool
05-29-2012, 11:29 PM
I escort most spiders out of the house except the brown recluse - called fiddlebacks in this part of the country. On the other hand I don't let fiddlebacks stay in the house either.

I've been bitten from time to time. Not fatal but sure no fun. Big red patch the size of a teacup that takes forever to heal.

A.K. Boomer
05-30-2012, 12:12 AM
I escort buglife outside. Female companion is tolerant of my behavior... It took some convincing but she's to the point where she doesn't shoe-bash every critter that crosses her path.


I think that's honorable - I try my best not to mess up anyones day either but if a roach finds it's way in it's usually curtains for it, along with a BW and some very annoying fly's that I usually try to give a chance to by opening the door or window first.
daddy long legs have the run of the place along with those jumping spiders that I think are cool little guys.

I seen a massive tarantula on a bike ride already this year, wish I would have had my camera, they are the coolest.

lazlo
05-30-2012, 11:30 AM
We have tarantulas in Austin. You mostly see them (and scorpions) in new construction.

When we first moved in the house, I was at work, and the neighbor came by in a panic -- she had a huge tarantula in her house, and asked my Wife if she could help her with it.

So my Wife went over to the neighbor's house, found a shovel, and flattened it. Then the neighbor got all upset that my Wife killed it :p