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flylo
06-15-2012, 04:51 PM
Is there a Doctor on the forum? I need a prescription for a Pacemaker, quick! Here she is all 5600#, very tight, I went over it again & everything I found looks great! I don't think I could get this much machine at H-F for $1750? Also an 80 gal upright/$250 & a 3/4" Milwaukee frame drill/$200. That's it, Barn's full. http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k631/fly-lo/th_1339787511.jpg (http://s1119.photobucket.com/albums/k631/fly-lo/?action=view&current=1339787511.jpg) http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k631/fly-lo/th_1339787508.jpg (http://s1119.photobucket.com/albums/k631/fly-lo/?action=view&current=1339787508.jpg) http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k631/fly-lo/th_1339787512.jpg (http://s1119.photobucket.com/albums/k631/fly-lo/?action=view&current=1339787512.jpg)


I think my insurance should cover the Pacemaker, don't you? :D

kbertoson
06-15-2012, 05:02 PM
Sell something out of the barn. You need more room for more machines. That frame drill is quite a machine.

lakeside53
06-15-2012, 05:03 PM
You really do suck. In fact, you suck more than anyone on HSM.:p

flylo
06-15-2012, 05:06 PM
That means alot coming from you. Thank you very much!:D :D



You really do suck. In fact, you suck more than anyone on HSM.:p

jep24601
06-15-2012, 05:12 PM
How does one use a frame drill?

dp
06-15-2012, 05:13 PM
You need some kind of detector that turns it off when it winds you around the chuck more than twice. Be vewwy careful with that! :)

flylo
06-15-2012, 05:13 PM
What's got me puzzled is I measured from the chuck center to the bed way & it's just over 18". The machine has 14x54 cast into it. It's a little longer between centers also. But the way I see it it's really an 18" swing? It has a great Buck 3 jaw that's each jaw is independantly adjustable as well as the usual scroll. I like it!

flylo
06-15-2012, 05:22 PM
How does one use a frame drill?

It's primarily made to drill horiz holes in truck frames & I beams & has chains & hooks that attach to the frame & a 3 handled quill that works like a horiz drill press. it's on a 4 wheeled cart that has a leadscrew that moves it up & down. Go to zipcut.com . Works better than a mag drill when in corners or bolts or other obstructions.

darryl
06-15-2012, 05:42 PM
18 inches from the center of the chuck to the bedway- that would make it a 36 x 54 or whatever length-

Picture is deceiving- do you have to stand on a step ladder to reach the controls? :)

bborr01
06-15-2012, 06:22 PM
Eric,

You suck big time with that Pacemaker. Nice machine. We had a couple of them where I worked and they are some serious iron.

I don't know where you keep finding the bargains or the room to store them.

Brian

2ManyHobbies
06-15-2012, 06:23 PM
What's got me puzzled is I measured from the chuck center to the bed way & it's just over 18". The machine has 14x54 cast into it. It's a little longer between centers also. But the way I see it it's really an 18" swing? It has a great Buck 3 jaw that's each jaw is independantly adjustable as well as the usual scroll. I like it!If you only intend to use it for facing, yes! :D

If you measure from the center of the chuck down to the high point on the cross slide though, you'll probably find 7". Either that or you can't get the tool post more than 7" from center. :eek:

Nice score overall!

Mcgyver
06-15-2012, 06:30 PM
you need a doctor alright :D that looks like a nice one, way to go. What are you making with all this stuff?

Dr Stan
06-15-2012, 06:43 PM
That Pacemaker looks just like the ones we had on the Samuel Gompers AD-37. Does it have the "back gear" in the tailstock so you can use large drill bits without as much step drilling?

Fasttrack
06-15-2012, 07:29 PM
What's got me puzzled is I measured from the chuck center to the bed way & it's just over 18". The machine has 14x54 cast into it. It's a little longer between centers also. But the way I see it it's really an 18" swing? It has a great Buck 3 jaw that's each jaw is independantly adjustable as well as the usual scroll. I like it!


It's a 14 by 54 alright. Looks like an early to mid 40's model? According to Technical Bulletin 15 and 16, the 14" lathe has 16.5" swing over the carriage wings. The 54" is actually measured between centers - i.e. install a center in the headstock and in the tailstock and you should find it can handle a work piece that is 54" long. Which speed range did you get? Does it top out at 1000, 1500 or 2000 rpm? Is that a 18 speed? Is that a taper attachment I see? Tell us more!

Other intersting tidbits -

Bearings are manufactured by Timken
Radial load capacity at 100 rpm of the front bearing is 11,538 lbs
Thrust load capacity at 100 rpm is 9250 lbs
Through hole is 1.75"


Beautiful machines. If you ever decide you want a 1945 16 by 30, let me know. I've got three - 14 by 30, and two 16 by 30's and I'm dying to get a 54 or 78 :)

flylo
06-15-2012, 07:48 PM
That Pacemaker looks just like the ones we had on the Samuel Gompers AD-37. Does it have the "back gear" in the tailstock so you can use large drill bits without as much step drilling?

I knew a Dr would show up! Bill my ins for the Pacemaker but add a couple zero's. As far as the tailstock there is something I haven't seen so probably.

Mcgyver,don't know yet but I'll be ready.

Brian, you've contributed to this, remember the "I think it weighs about 1700#" right before the 3/8" chain broke? I think your toolaholic has rubbed off! Don't make tell everyone the name of your lathe:D.

Darryl, my mistake, it measures 9.25"

Fastrack, it's 27 speed, 25-1500 RPM.
Thanks guys, this ones a keeper. Read what Tony say's on the UK lathe website. It's just like that one.

Tamper84
06-15-2012, 08:57 PM
You suck!!! Lol. But nice find. I would love to know your secrets for finding machines!!!

wierdscience
06-15-2012, 10:17 PM
What's got me puzzled is I measured from the chuck center to the bed way & it's just over 18". The machine has 14x54 cast into it. It's a little longer between centers also. But the way I see it it's really an 18" swing? It has a great Buck 3 jaw that's each jaw is independantly adjustable as well as the usual scroll. I like it!

It's a Pacemaker,their engineers thought 14x54 was the size chunk of 4140 you could chuck in it and reduce to 1/2" diameter in three passes:D

Oh,and getting that,Lathe for that price means you Powerful Suck!:p

sasquatch
06-15-2012, 10:18 PM
That lathe is going to be WAY TOO BIG for you,, so, to save you the trouble, i'll trade you even for my 618, and i'll take the loss on the deal!!:p

flylo
06-15-2012, 10:50 PM
That lathe is going to be WAY TOO BIG for you,, so, to save you the trouble, i'll trade you even for my 618, and i'll take the loss on the deal!!:p
I bet you'd even throw in the Stellite wouldn't you? Hold your breath & I'll let you know. You should make a road trip & come on down sometime.

67chevelle
06-15-2012, 11:15 PM
Very nice machine flylo, I've been running one of those at our local CC, and it's one of my favorite lathe's.

Mark

Dr Stan
06-16-2012, 12:04 AM
It's a Pacemaker,their engineers thought 14x54 was the size chunk of 4140 you could chuck in it and reduce to 1/2" diameter in three passes

In all seriousness I ground a 1" sq cobalt turning tool that I used in the Pacemaker to take .500" deep (yes 1.000 on the dia) in aluminum bronze. I had the top rake ground so that it threw the chips down by the tailstock.

One day we had a freshly minted butter bar (Ensign for all the land lubbers) getting under foot in the shop. Just so happened that I was making some wear rings for a centrifugal fire & flushing pump on one of the Pacemakers. There was a desk/bench surrounded by flat file cabinets in a U shape that served as the desk for the LPO (leading petty officer - think leadman or foreman) 3 or 4 feet from the end of the lathe. This ensign took up a post at the end of the lathe and I just glanced over at the LPO. The LPO knew exactly what I was going to do and the look on his face was wonderful. :D

I engaged the feed and the ensign received a shower of hot chips. :eek:

This was 2 or 3 months before I got out of the Navy and I never saw him again in the shop. ;)

One more feature I remember. Does it have a lock built into the cross slide that one can use as zero when single point threading? It's a set screw in or near the graduated dial and would give one three turns lock to lock so it can be used for either external or internal threading.

flylo
06-16-2012, 12:12 AM
Very nice machine flylo, I've been running one of those at our local CC, and it's one of my favorite lathe's.

Mark
Thanks! I had a '67 Chevelle & my 1st car was a '69 Camero pace car. Wish I had kept them both!

Fasttrack
06-16-2012, 11:59 AM
One more feature I remember. Does it have a lock built into the cross slide that one can use as zero when single point threading? It's a set screw in or near the graduated dial and would give one three turns lock to lock so it can be used for either external or internal threading.

AFAIK, that's a standard feature starting on the early Pacemakers and continuing until the last models. Very handy.

flylo
06-16-2012, 12:13 PM
A little icing on the cake. The former owner of the American told me it was bought new by Checker Motors in Kalamazoo (not far). I've always been a Checker fan & remember when I was a very young man they aired a story on TV (on 1 of the 2 channels we got) about a NY city Checker cab that went over 1 million miles which was quite a feat considering all of it was stop & go. It was the 1st car I heard of breaking the million mile mark. Very cool! :D

Alistair Hosie
06-16-2012, 02:26 PM
I don't think you suck I think your the greatest thing since sliced bread now rub off some of that magic to old Alistair :DAlistair

flylo
06-16-2012, 03:10 PM
I don't think you suck I think your the greatest thing since sliced bread now rub off some of that magic to old Alistair :DAlistair

:D Must be my wonderful wife Elizabeth. She was walking our new German Shepard last evening in the hayfield & found the biggest 4 leaf clover I've ever seen! As I've said I'm a blessed man & wake up thankful, expecting to find deals & have a positive day. So Alistair, good luck, be thankful & find all the deals you can handle! I already know your blessed in many ways, one is having a fine son like you do!
What's that movie line? "There are only 2 rules in life, #1 Don't sweat the small stuff, #2 Everything is small stuff".

michigan doug
06-16-2012, 05:39 PM
Suck^3.

I like my grizzly, and that doesn't stop me from lusting over your new iron.

If I get something too big for mine, I'm bringing it over to your place.

Finest regards,

doug

Tamper84
06-23-2012, 11:53 PM
Just out of couriousty, how did you move this beast!?!

Gravy
06-24-2012, 01:09 AM
:D Must be my wonderful wife Elizabeth. She was walking our new German Shepard last evening in the hayfield & found the biggest 4 leaf clover I've ever seen! As I've said I'm a blessed man & wake up thankful, expecting to find deals & have a positive day. So Alistair, good luck, be thankful & find all the deals you can handle! I already know your blessed in many ways, one is having a fine son like you do!
What's that movie line? "There are only 2 rules in life, #1 Don't sweat the small stuff, #2 Everything is small stuff".

Could we hope for pix of the clover, the pup, and/or the lady? You might as well finish rubbing it in...

flylo
06-24-2012, 01:34 AM
Tamper, I haven't brought it home yet as the seller went on vacation, I'll bring it home on a flat deck over the wheels dump trailer.
Check out my ugliest lathe post. Here's the pup 8 months old. http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k631/fly-lo/th_1338560445.jpg (http://s1119.photobucket.com/albums/k631/fly-lo/?action=view&current=1338560445.jpg)

flylo
06-25-2012, 06:50 PM
Could we hope for pix of the clover, the pup, and/or the lady? You might as well finish rubbing it in...

Here's 2 four leaf & the 1st 5 leaf I've see she found this morning. I told her she could be famous with here pucture on the best forum on the web, but she declined.http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k631/fly-lo/th_1340660441.jpg (http://s1119.photobucket.com/albums/k631/fly-lo/?action=view&current=1340660441.jpg)