View Full Version : THE RAT in my machine

02-28-2004, 06:49 PM
I worked with my milling machine today. When I finally got the G81 program finished I started the spindle. TO much to my dismay a rat ran out of the head. Around the neck of the machine and through the knuckle. DOwn the cables and out of my shop. I was shocked, my pittbulldog just looked around. HUH? he said what was that? (we had been sharing a beer)

I think I want the water moccassin back.

Using vegetable oil to lube when I was milling aluminum. Perhaps the cables and everything else is good to chew on now?

(dismayed and looking for a better mousetrap)

I finished the 1st three back panels for ebay today thou. AS normal, two hours doing the code, and 20 minutes drilling the holes. I love G81 command, my other software didn't have it. I love learning new things.


Anyone got a better mousetrap?

02-28-2004, 06:53 PM
You need to program those CNC's to turn out rat traps while you're sleeping at night http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

02-28-2004, 07:01 PM
Get a shop cat, and make sure the cat is friends with your dog. Now a stray cat that you make friends with will be a much better hunter than a cat that never learned from its mother.

02-28-2004, 07:47 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ibewgypsie:
... much to my dismay a rat ran out of the head...</font>

Ha! I'll bet it didn't make the rat too happy either! I've had mice, chipmunks and birds in my shop. The birds are the most frequent visitors. I once had a humming bird get stuck on a piece of fly paper. Took some doing to get him loose, but I did, and he was no worse for wear. Twice I've had roughed grouse fly through my window. Believe me, having a football sized bird smash a 4'x4' pane of glass and then start flapping around the shop will snap you out of your day dreams in a hurry! I killed and ate both the grouse. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

02-28-2004, 09:33 PM
I started a drill press one morning. It ran for a few seconds, then there was a loud bang. Stopped the machine and lifted the lid on the belt cover. What a mess! Apparently a small snake had been sleeping curled around one of the multi groove V pulleys. When the world started to go round, it must have raised its head for a look, and the V belt chopped it off. Most of the snake was still coiled round the pulley, but centrifugal force had done a wonderful job of spreading blood and snake bits all over the inside of the belt guard.


02-28-2004, 11:00 PM
Say, ibewgypsie, the rat didn't look like one of these buggers, did it? http://members.ozemail.com.au/~bilbies/taronga_bilby_3.jpg

02-28-2004, 11:01 PM
I think you should remove the hiding places that are near the doorway. Don't eat in your shop or if you do, don't leave any dishes or scraps. Don't throw any food away in your shop. Better to keep it outside and away from the doorway. Clean up those rat hiding places. Containerize everything.

I used to raise rats and mice to feed to my hawk.

Haven't quite learned how to think like a rat, but this is as close as I could get.

Was that cooking oil used cooking oil? Maybe it had some attractive smells going on.


Do you have any ideas for a mechanical beer can crusher?



02-28-2004, 11:02 PM
Had a chipmunk in the spindle of the NakaTome lathe given to the school shop, and a mouse in the control panel. Both have ben live re-located (summertime). The problem since has been the stink of a mouse living two years in the control box (machine sat a while), and the acorn shells that still sling all over the place from the various nooks and such on the spindle - airhose could not get them out...

I'll take the rodents over the snake....Used to live in heavy duty rattlesnake territory, I had my issues over the years with these in cars, under tents, in cellars, on the doorstoop, in stairwells, and once had two on my boots (off my feet to air them out for a few moments) after a day out in the wilds.

Them and griz bears....but that is another story..

02-28-2004, 11:29 PM
Well, atleast none of those instances (except for the snake in drill press)were as bad as when a family of mice built a nest in our oven and we didnt know it until the stink started to spread around the house.

02-29-2004, 12:32 AM
BillH- maybe you should have tried some barbecue sauce on them. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//wink.gif

02-29-2004, 10:29 AM
Rat poison, inside my machine, on top so the PUP can't get to it. If they get on, into my my machine they deserve it.

I have so much money invested in the cnc, so little income at the present I could not fix it if something happens. If a ball screw/ or drive in the head crashes I am SOL. A very large paperweight till I sell something to fix it. You know, kinda like I was when the Gecko drives failed? I had to sell something.

My hobby shop growes by reinvestment of money it makes. I sold my home-built Fatboy to get the lathe and the mill. A good investment so far. I keep trying to rat-hole the income from the shop. but... it keeps getting spent. (motorcycles can be replaced)

Rat=4 legged Phillipino chicken. I think I may have had it before, I used to eat squirrel when I was young. bushy tailed rat=squirrel. Can't be worse then fish, they swim in thier own defecation.

JC Fields used to say? Water? Fish fornicate in it. YUUKKK

Spence.. No plans on a crusher.. I need one if you find any. I only use clean new cooking oil, watered down for cutting oil. Never tried LARD, now that would excite the rats. Hell if it smelled like cooking bacon I'd never get anything made.

How is your mill coming along? ever get the dripper feed going and communicating?


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02-29-2004, 12:53 PM
I have had good luck with pine oil from the dime store,smells good too.

Food has nothing to do with the rat problem except for the fact that to a rat everything is food.
I have seen them strip romex house wire bare down to the copper for a hundred feet,somehow the little b-----s never get electrocuted.
If you do bait traps,peanut butter in an old piece of panty hose material,they can't resist peanut butter and the hose makes it so they have to tug on the trigger http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

02-29-2004, 03:27 PM
You need a Karelian Bear Dog. Rat? If she saw a rat it would be gone before you could say....

02-29-2004, 05:05 PM
It was W. C. Fields.
Be careful with the rat poison. If the pup gets hold of a poisoned rat, it can poison it too.

02-29-2004, 07:19 PM
JC.. why,, it was WC Fields.. HA.. ya got me.. I am losing brain cells at a alarming rate. I hate it when they cross wire..

I am scared to death of rats. More scared then about any small critter. I used to catch snakes. Feed them mice, I was more scared of the mice then the poisonous snakes. I used to pay for a lot of hunting trips with them snake skins. I got a recipe for tanning them rascals out, quick and easy. 50/glycerin, 50% ethelyene glycol.. the glycol dehydrates it, the glycerin rehydrates it.

He has (the rat) jumped out on me twice today. THE lil bugger won't be around much longer. My shop connects with my wooded area behind. Leaves, branches, lots of good rat holes.


Alistair Hosie
02-29-2004, 08:37 PM
Ibew I will send you a few pics of my sister hang them around your workshop that will keep em away http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif Alistair

J Tiers
02-29-2004, 10:57 PM
Rats have probably been responsible for more people dying than any other furry critter of any size....

Read a book called "Rats, Lice, and History".

Plus, when they look at you, its not really with fear. There is something else in there, that makes me go on S&D for the beggars.

They look at you and it feels like they are thinking "if that big animal dies, I can probably eat off it for weeks".

03-01-2004, 12:05 AM
IBEW, care to tell more 'bout tanning snakeskins? I have a few rattlesnake skins that, after I killed the snake, I just tacked to a board and dried out. Now I have to be real gentle with them, or scales startt falling off. Do I just put a fresh skin in the mix. How long? What have you made with them? I'd like to make a cuff out of the next rattler that crosses my path.

03-01-2004, 03:07 AM
put some coke or pepsi out for the bastard. Rats cant burp or fart so they bloat and die from the gas - don't try beer - they like sweet stuff!

If I was a rat I would be dead 10-15 times a day!

03-01-2004, 07:40 AM

I used to skin them right out. Peel them skins off like a pair of panty hose, it turns inside out. RIGHT at the asshole on the snake about 2-3 inches from the tip of the tail it rips, you have to cut it. once off the snake you can snip with scissors and turn it right side out. I have always done it fresh.

I had a copperhead skin 4 feet long, over 1 1/2 feet across that had 1 1/2 feet blowed off each end with a shotgun. Now the Georgia record is only about 3 feet. If it had bit me, it would have broken my leg, its head was over 4 1/2 inches wide, fangs over 2 inches. I was back in the mountains, Cohutta wilderness hunting wild hog.

Don't give them a chance to bite you. Shoot them in the head, even then they can still strike. Swelling is so bad you have to split the skin (your skin) to let the blood flow through the meat. Otherwise it all turns black from no blood flow and you have the chance of blood clots.

Most snake bites come from people messing with them, the snake don't want to use it's poison, it needs it to capture it's food.

I sold the skins, didn't make crap. Grampa told me snakes are territorial, if you have a snake skin on they can smell it and try to run you off. Older brother has a anaconda skin about 16 feet long I always wanted panels in my leather with.

Rats don't fart huh? I ate some cabbage last night, whew.. and the budwieser..


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03-01-2004, 10:05 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tuckerfan:
Say, ibewgypsie, the rat didn't look like one of these buggers, did it? http://members.ozemail.com.au/~bilbies/taronga_bilby_3.jpg </font>

Geez!WTF is that?Demon rat from hell?

03-01-2004, 10:49 PM
"DEMON rat from hell", they all look like that to me. When I was little they would get in bed with US.. I woke up getting whipped for throwing a fit, I had a very large gopher rolled up in the blanket and was pummelling it with my fists. As my very large father held me by one arm whailing the hell outa me the rat ran out from under the covers where I had it rolled up like a burrito. I hate rats.
If Something gets on me while I am sleeping, look out. I have knocked holes in the walls. Bounced cats off the walls, etc.

When rats get close I dance a twostep on them. Chiahuahuas are close and I want to stomp them too. (the one that bit my lil girl I twisted his head backwards and did no percievable damage to it) I still want to stomp it, but my older brother lets it eat outa the corner of his mouth, so it is his baby. (barking rat)

Gopher sticky strips is what the lil redhead is bringing from Wal Mart.. I hate rats in my machines. Poor machinery. I think of my cnc as a friend. I have so much time and labor in it. The thought of it eating my stepper cables in two, shorting them and blowing the expensive drives out pisses me off.

(Okay I am done now) Going out to pet Butch (puppy).


03-02-2004, 07:26 AM
New mental picture..

My bridgeport used to be 2 horsepower. Forever more will the mental picture of rats running around in hamster wheels powering the head.
Isn't a vivid imagination a asset?

Didn't rats originally come from China?


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03-02-2004, 10:26 AM
In the march issue of Field and stream there is a picture of a BETTER mouse trap on page 52. It is a 5 gal bucket with a board as a ramp . adowel rod sits across top of bucket with a soda can spining on dowel . ( dowel in same axis as can.peanut butter on can . So mouse runs up board , jumps on can , can spins and mouse falls in bucket of water . I tried this trap also works on squireels with out dowel and can. just fill bucket 1/2 full and throw in sunflower seeds .Chris

03-02-2004, 08:18 PM
Cmiller, We are not talking about mice, a RAT..

Rats can jump 3 feet straight up. At least they do when I am swinging a stick at them.

David.. Ha..

03-02-2004, 09:03 PM
I finished the 1st three back panels for ebay today thou


Anyone got a better mousetrap?

You asked for a mouse trap .but i would bet it would work anyway . I doubt if the rat can jump 3' out of a bucket of water Chris

03-02-2004, 09:11 PM
wierdscience, that creature is an Australian "bilby." For some inexplicable reason, the Aussie's have decided that it's a good replacement for the Easter Bunny! Read on:

(Of course, I know why the Aussie's hate rabbits, but you look at that bilby, and when you realize that some kid is going to be happily munching away on a chocolate version of one come Easter time, ya gotta wonder if they're not sealing those cans of Fosters with lead.)

03-03-2004, 12:26 AM

Thanks for the reply. Do you soak them in the glycerin/ethelyne glycol solution, or just rub it on?

I usually dispatch any rattlers I come across while hog or deer hunting in Northern CA. Luckily, I've never been bit, but I have been struck at. I skin just like you said, and I eat the meat. Snakes are surprisingly easy to clean, as you know.

Sorry for the hijack.

IBEW 617

jim davies
03-03-2004, 12:53 AM
"I once had a humming bird get stuck on a piece of fly paper..."

Last summer a humming bird flew into the shop through the open door and left through the open window, or would have except for the screen. Beaked hisself right to the skull, hit stop button [saw the wings stop] then WOT in reverse, backed straight out, hard left and straight out the door. Sure made some strange noises but never broke anything. Wish I could drive like that...