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SmoggyTurnip
07-16-2012, 08:49 AM
The thread about Police misconduct was closed but I have no idea why. Does anyone know why or how to find out?

+ or - Zero
07-16-2012, 09:38 AM
My guess would be that the powers that be wanted it closed. We're just visitors here and the guy that owns the house probably just tired of what amounts to a non machining topic.

You should know that. You and I have (like probably many many members here) been involved in threads that were closed --long before everyone involved had said all they might have wanted to.

I think asking why is a pointless exercise, but I have 2 bits of advice on the subject:

1. Never, never, under any circumstances, follow advice from anyone --make your own decisions.

2. That said, my advice is just accept it and move on, at the end of the day there are thousands of places to discuss about anything one could want to discuss. This place was set up to discuss machining and related matters, go find one that does the politics of the police state --there are many such.

BTW, I still think you did good to try to assist a citizen you though was being harassed.

flylo
07-16-2012, 09:54 AM
I think it got off topic. look at post #62 about America being Facist & more so than Canada. I don't think so. We have a lot more freedoms than most countries IMHO.:confused:

gnm109
07-16-2012, 11:06 AM
The thread about Police misconduct was closed but I have no idea why. Does anyone know why or how to find out?


I think you have answered your own question. Threads about poliice misconduct don't belong on a Home Shop Machinist site.


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browne92
07-16-2012, 11:25 AM
A great many posts on this forum are off-topic. It the moderator wanted to, he could delete 8 of the 20 posts I see on the first page. Because there are so many people here with a lot of knowledge and experience, I think they are allowed in the spirit of exchange of information.

I have not read the thread in question all the way through, but I'm surprised it was allowed to go on as long as it did. No offense intended to the OP, but it really didn't belong here.

Rosco-P
07-16-2012, 11:35 AM
I would not seek legal advice on a multi-national machining forum just as I would not post seeking tips on D.I.Y. Neurosurgery.

Fasttrack
07-16-2012, 11:59 AM
A great many posts on this forum are off-topic. It the moderator wanted to, he could delete 8 of the 20 posts I see on the first page. Because there are so many people here with a lot of knowledge and experience, I think they are allowed in the spirit of exchange of information.



As a guilty party, I want to again take the time to thank George Bulliss for allowing the off-topic threads. As Browne92 says, there is a surprising variety of expertise represented on this forum. Consequently, I enjoy being able to discuss and sometimes argue about topics that stray very far from any machining content.

I know I've learned an enormous amount, both related and completely unrelated to machining in the 7-8 years I've been on the forum. Thanks for a great community, folks!

moe1942
07-16-2012, 12:39 PM
Without OT posts this and most other forums wouldn't exist..but someone needs to pull the plug when they get repetitive..

SmoggyTurnip
07-16-2012, 12:43 PM
Well I don't know how you guys know what the reason was. Did someone tell you. Are off topic posts not allowed? I just want to know if it was closed because of something I did. Was it closed simply cause it was off topic? This is not a complaint I just want to know so I don't do it again. There were some people who seemed interested in the topic and I was going to update. I was thinking about starting a new thread for the updates but if don't want to waste my time if it will be closed for the same unknown reason.

gwilson
07-16-2012, 12:53 PM
Sometimes the moderator considers that the thread has run its course. More discussion on aircraft punctures than the OP resulted.

DFMiller
07-16-2012, 02:27 PM
ST,
If you review the history of closed posts here at HSMBBS you should be able to figure out the normal reasons why a thread will get locked.

Petty bickering, outrageous topics or discussions that devolve into government / political bashing have a lifetime. Once that lifetime is over its gone.

There seems to be a huge tolerance for OT threads here. I doubt that the fact it was an OT thread was the cause. Many On topic threads have been locked.

Threads are locked by the moderators or the Administrators. If you want a real answer to the question the person to ask is George Bulliss. He runs this BBS and is a very reasonable guy. He is also very busy and has stated before that he does not have to time to send a long personal note every time he locks a thread.

Its very easy to get wrapped up in a thread and lose focus, thus many threads get locked because people get lost in the forest.

Dave

John Stevenson
07-16-2012, 03:27 PM
Anyone want to take bets on how long the Dragon thread stays up ?

Weston Bye
07-16-2012, 03:42 PM
Anyone want to take bets on how long the Dragon thread stays up ?

A good example of a bad example.:D

gwilson
07-16-2012, 03:59 PM
I'm beginning to think that you are so stubborn that you will become a PITA to the police. I can assure you that you WILL come out on the short end of the stick if you do. Best let the morons alone.

+ or - Zero
07-16-2012, 04:06 PM
Anyone want to take bets on how long the Dragon thread stays up ?

No bet on that, but I'd be willing to give considerable odds that the "Shop Made Tools" thread stays open... :D

Mike Amick
07-16-2012, 04:21 PM
Without OT posts this and most other forums wouldn't exist..but someone needs to pull the plug when they get repetitive..

You must be looking at a different forum ... this forum has plenty of
on topic posts ..

I am kind of a forum nut .. I love hanging with smart people on subjects
that I am trying to learn or teach. I have seen many forums die because
the OT posts started taking over.

Even this forum ... I haven't been here that long .. and even I can see that
the ratio of OT to on topic has changed quite a lot.

At least most of the guys on here try to warn you that it is OT .. although
there are some old heads that just seem to think they don't have to.

JMHO

lazlo
07-16-2012, 04:27 PM
As a guilty party, I want to again take the time to thank George Bulliss for allowing the off-topic threads. As Browne92 says, there is a surprising variety of expertise represented on this forum.

I disagree Tom. There are Off-Topic posts, and then there are contentious Off-Topic posts, like police or investment bank misconduct, swine flu, ...

I posted the original Higgs Boson thread, and aside from a couple of sidetracks, the thread was non-contentious and well-received.
Likewise for your follow-up thread.

Ditto for the long thread about the BP oil spill. Totally off topic, it went on for months (which is great for Village Press' hit rate), and stayed mostly on-topic. A lot of great ideas for capping, salient background info from our drilling experts, related deep-well technologies...

flylo
07-16-2012, 06:50 PM
ST, IMHO you haven't been permantly hurt by the police or the forum. I'd just forget it, move ahead with life & don't let it drag you down. If you dwell on it you're the only one it's going to hurt. Again just my opinion. Tomorrows another day, be glad!

loose nut
07-16-2012, 09:37 PM
We have a lot more freedoms than most countries IMHO.:confused:

You also have Homeland Security Agency and the Patriot Act which pretty much nullifies most of your "freedoms".

I can understand the Op's distress but is this the proper forum for political, religious and "contentious" topics, we come here to be part of a community of machinist's, real or otherwise. The topics have been drifting away from machining or even of a mechanical nature of late. There are forums for every conceivable topic out there today, maybe these OT posts should seek them out. I would hate to see this forum renamed the Home Shop Gossiper.

flylo
07-16-2012, 10:12 PM
What freedom have I lost? Longer airport waits is the only thing that I see. I can still carry a concealed weapon. We have more gun rights now than we did then. With a CCW I don't even have to get a background check or visit the local law enforcement to buy pistols or long guns. Can you order ammo thru the mail? I'm just curious. My friend is a citizen north of the border. He had a Michigan car he kept here. Decided to take it north & they would not let him bring it it because he had not declared it. I asked him if I were with him if I could have drove it in,he said yes. I said than I have more rights in your country than you. We have much more freedom & less legalism than north. Look at all the taxes. I've sold things north & they tell me after the provincial tax+ the others it runs about 25%. Sold a set of aircraft floats, we discussed the free health care. They said their mother broke a hip & waited 6 months before surgery. Looks like both sides need to inprove. Most everything going in has to go thru a broker right? Look at Evans nightmare with the C-PAP. And I never understood why they give me the tax I spent back at the border. I can't say I've been affected by 911 that I can recall. Nice people, beautiful country but as they say " Nice place to visit but I'll never live there". No offense intended, I like the people & land, just not the legalistic goverment, high taxes & fuel.

oldtiffie
07-16-2012, 11:48 PM
If all the OP has done is moan and complain on the locked thread and here without having done anything (or too much) that is constructive to bring the matter decisively to finality he seems to be wasting his time and that of a lot of others.

flylo
07-16-2012, 11:49 PM
Guys I'm adding this because I don't want to offend anyone here. I like you where ever you live. The above post is just how I see it & I may be totally wrong. I think both on both sides the goverment is too large & don't represent the people they serve. Peace & Looney Tooneys & Ben Franklins to all!

John Stevenson
07-17-2012, 05:28 AM
we come here to be part of a community of machinist's, real or otherwise.

Hey I resemble that remark :)

Mcgyver
07-17-2012, 10:04 AM
What freedom have I lost? Longer airport waits is the only thing that I see. I can still carry a concealed weapon. We have more gun rights now than we did then. With a CCW I don't even have to get a background check or visit the local law enforcement to buy pistols or long guns. Can you order ammo thru the mail? I'm just curious. My friend is a citizen north of the border. He had a Michigan car he kept here. Decided to take it north & they would not let him bring it it because he had not declared it. I asked him if I were with him if I could have drove it in,he said yes. I said than I have more rights in your country than you. We have much more freedom & less legalism than north. Look at all the taxes. I've sold things north & they tell me after the provincial tax+ the others it runs about 25%. Sold a set of aircraft floats, we discussed the free health care. They said their mother broke a hip & waited 6 months before surgery. Looks like both sides need to inprove. Most everything going in has to go thru a broker right? Look at Evans nightmare with the C-PAP. And I never understood why they give me the tax I spent back at the border. I can't say I've been affected by 911 that I can recall. Nice people, beautiful country but as they say " Nice place to visit but I'll never live there". No offense intended, I like the people & land, just not the legalistic goverment, high taxes & fuel.

well this one to is in a rush to get locked...way to go Evan....the guy's written off the whole country based on your exceptional postal experience :D

flylo, everyone's entitle to their opinion, but please it would be appreciate if you're going to size up the appeal of my country that you disseminate more balanced and accurate information. Our corporate taxes are lower than yours and our combined provincial and federal sales tax rate is 13%, at least in Ontario. There is universal health care so that's an additional expense you have beyond your taxes. If the lines are too long, we go the US and buy the service.

True, we don't carry concealed weapons (something I suggest might not be universally viewed as a negative) however we enjoy other little advantages, like a homicide and violent crime rate that is 1/3 of yours. Moving goods across the border and when that triggers tax can be complex, but you're no better off, probably a lot worse given the extensive red tape on exports you now have. Our personal taxes are too high, there's an undercurrent of socialism and rocks and trees have made us a little fat dumb and stupid....but overall its a great place to live.

Whether you would enjoy it or not is a personal matter but your stack of negatives is inaccurate and unbalanced....hard to assess a country based on a few anecdotes. I know you meant no offence, and none taken, but no malice isn't a license to say anything without have it challenged :)

George Bulliss
07-17-2012, 10:34 AM
ST, the reason for the thread closure was correctly stated by several people early on in this thread and I really saw no reason to log on and reply. The thread topic appeared to have run its course and as an OT thread it did not seem wise to leave a thread that had a high probability of turning political. Nothing personal, but things do need pruning from time to time.

For those facing a similar situation, I would suggest that you contact me directly if you are wondering about my actions. I always reply to every PM and email, but it may not happen until Iím back in the office during the week. However, I can guarantee that you will get a quicker response than you will in a new thread. OT threads that pop up as a result of me clearing the board of OT threads are not a favorite of mine.