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rustydog
10-18-2012, 05:44 PM
I was thinking about building a small shop lift for assistance as my smashed disk gets older and worse. There is a construction type lift used on interiors called a hi-lift. Hand powered via a small winch. Has a staggered footprint so it can slide around legs. Harbor Freight has a small motorcycle jack on sale for $99. which might be a starting point. I'd put larger wheels on the back for access to the driveway. It would probably be powered by a small boat trailer type winch. About a 24 x 24 inch or so foot print and able to lift about 40" or high enough to put heavy accessories on the lathe or mill. It might need removable outriggers for safety on some lifts.

I'm sure others have thought of this also or already built something similar.

I'd be pleased to have any ideas or suggestions. THANKs

oldtiffie
10-18-2012, 06:08 PM
"Boat trailer" winches are made for a horizontal pull only - no vertical loads (even though they work).

Check the warning on the packet and spec/instruction sheet.

A chain block would be better as they are rated for a vertical lift/lower mode.

Rosco-P
10-18-2012, 06:43 PM
That's called a die lift. Look for one on Craigslist, shop auctions, etc.

Also consider a Hoyer lift, smaller and more portable than a cherry picker, shop crane, engine lift, but less capacity: http://www.medicalforyouonline.com/store.php/pd3289579/invacare_probasics_manual_hydraulic_patient_hoyer_ lift
These can be found used, for around a hundred or so.

dp
10-18-2012, 06:49 PM
I like Handy Lifts for load and "portability". You can't hide them easily but they do roll around. And I have a Harley so that's just one more plus. The pneumatic versions can be surprising the way pneumatic presses can be surprising.

http://www.handyindustries.com/

uncle pete
10-18-2012, 07:27 PM
During my recent "oh so wonderful" hospital stay, I happened to notice them using a really light weight but very well designed patient hoist. It was rated for 500 lbs. on the placard. It also made my cheap engine hoist look awful large on the foot print and very poorly designed. New price would probably be worthy of another heart attack, but there has to be places around that specialize in used hospital equipment. It sure worked well for cherry picking people in and out of a bed.

Pete

Rosco-P
10-18-2012, 07:34 PM
During my recent "oh so wonderful" hospital stay, I happened to notice them using a really light weight but very well designed patient hoist. It was rated for 500 lbs. on the placard. It also made my cheap engine hoist look awful large on the foot print and very poorly designed. New price would probably be worthy of another heart attack, but there has to be places around that specialize in used hospital equipment. It sure worked well for cherry picking people in and out of a bed.

Pete

Pete, that would be a "Hoyer" lift, also copied and built by othr makers.

uncle pete
10-18-2012, 07:40 PM
LOL, Damn Rosco. If I'd taken the time to click your link I could have saved some posting. So ignore my ramblings and pay attention to Rosco's.

Pete

Forrest Addy
10-18-2012, 07:52 PM
If you decide to ue a boat trailer winch for a vertical lift get one with a "load brake".

If you don;t know what a load brake is here's a brief description of function: it's a safety feature. The winch is not direct geared; it will not free wheel from the load over-driving the hoist drum. You crank up in the normal fashion to lift the load. When you crank down you relieve the automatic brake a trifle and the load follows the brake. Stop cranking and the load, resistied by the automatic brak, stops when you do. All hoisting winches, chain hoists, lever hoists are arranged this way.

Here's a better description: http://overheadmaterialhandlingregulation.blogspot.com/2012/01/mechanical-load-brake-operation-and.html

flylo
10-18-2012, 08:18 PM
RD, I'm not sure where your located but I'll bet you can find one much cheaper than you can build it or even buy the material for. I like anything that lifts or rolls (except cherry pickers).

KIMFAB
10-18-2012, 08:37 PM
I have one of these. Works nice.

http://vermettlifts.com/512a.html

I took a section off so it will fit thru a door.

I don't know where you are located but if near Vegas I can get you a screaming deal on a wheelchair lift for a van. :)

dp
10-18-2012, 08:41 PM
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I don't know where you are located but if near Vegas I can get you a screaming deal on a wheelchair lift for a van. :)

Pardon the diversion - A charitable group I support is looking to replace the wheelchair lift and van for our friend Eddie. Any pointers are welcome. The current van has salt rot and the bottom is coming loose. We've purchased two lift equipped vans in the last 12 years and salt seems to be a recurring problem as the replacement flooring sheet metal isn't treated like OEM vehicle bottoms.

http://EddieKieger.com/

rustydog
10-18-2012, 11:36 PM
THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP. Kimfab's post / picture is the type of lift which inspired my thinking. Something like the Vermett Lift but on a smaller scale. I'm not close to Los Vegas although that is also a great idea. Another week like this one and I'll need to go to Las Vegas. Thanks to all

browne92
10-19-2012, 10:30 AM
If you decide to get the cherry picker type (automotive or medical), make sure the casters will fit around or under whatever it is you want to pick up. I bought a 2 ton HF engine hoist to pick up the race car...idea being grab it by the roll hoop and lift the whole thing off the ground onto stands. Until I found that the car sits too low to the ground to get the hoist under it. :rolleyes:

KIMFAB
10-19-2012, 08:39 PM
Pardon the diversion - A charitable group I support is looking to replace the wheelchair lift and van for our friend Eddie. Any pointers are welcome. The current van has salt rot and the bottom is coming loose. We've purchased two lift equipped vans in the last 12 years and salt seems to be a recurring problem as the replacement flooring sheet metal isn't treated like OEM vehicle bottoms.

http://EddieKieger.com/

The van associated with this lift is down the road but if you need the lift for a cause like this all you have to do is pick it up.
I'm afraid it is too big and clumsy to ship, tho.

Here's a picture.

http://www.kimfab.com/pictures/forum/HPIM0814a.jpg