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thebigron
12-13-2012, 11:55 PM
I'm thinking about purchasing a couple of "sets" of a shim pack that fans out like a set of cards pined together. Maybe 1 1/2 inches by 2 and inch or two high, a dozen or so pieces, so one could use maybe 5, 8 or 12 depending on needs for shimming clamps on a mill table. They might be 1/8 " thick. My problem is I dont know what they are called so I can do a proper search. I have also seen a similiar grouping on a set of jaws on a drill press vise that wil hold very irrigular shaped items. Thanks.

LKeithR
12-14-2012, 12:31 AM
I think you're talking about feeler gauges...

macona
12-14-2012, 12:45 AM
I think he means parallels, cant think of ever using shims on a mill with a vise.

Old Time
12-14-2012, 12:57 AM
I think what he's got in mind is a stack of about 1/8" plates rectangular in shape, with a rivet in one corner so they can be fanned out. You swivel the top part of the stack out of the way until you have the thickness you need to support the end of the clamp. I have no idea of what they're called, but Rudy Kouhoupt had an article in HSM several years ago about making them.
I was going to make a set, but the exercise of digging through tons of crap to find a piece the right thickness seemed easier at the time.

Old Time

KiddZimaHater
12-14-2012, 02:07 AM
Taper Gage ???

ogre
12-14-2012, 03:19 AM
If its not what old time is referring to,then feeler gauges are it id assume, jyst as LKeithR suggested,i assume.

uute
12-14-2012, 04:13 AM
>>I was going to make a set, but the exercise of digging through tons of crap to find a piece the right thickness seemed easier at the time.

Old Time, I think the way you think.

Peter S
12-14-2012, 04:40 AM
I have some, but can't recall their name. Bought in the 1980's.

Is this image too large? Let me know and I will shrink it...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/PeterS/packersformill_zps64c0199d.jpg

JCHannum
12-14-2012, 09:41 AM
Rudy K. didn't make them, his article was more of a product review. I have three, made in Canada by James Morton, I don't think they are manufactured anymore. They are handy, but a set of step blocks serves the same purpose.

sasquatch
12-14-2012, 09:47 AM
Interesting question as i had never seen those before.

Black_Moons
12-14-2012, 09:51 AM
Rudy K. didn't make them, his article was more of a product review. I have three, made in Canada by James Morton, I don't think they are manufactured anymore. They are handy, but a set of step blocks serves the same purpose.

Ahh, They sure looked cool and I was wondering why I didn't own a set! now I know why, I have step blocks.

George Bulliss
12-14-2012, 10:02 AM
I had a customer contact me a few years back looking for these. He had seen an ad in a mid-90s HSM mag from a company in Tennessee that sold them. I could find no indication that the company was still around and didn’t come across any other current suppliers in my searches.

MrFluffy
12-14-2012, 10:35 AM
About 2.30 into here, you can see a set in use. "tubalcain" appears to prefer them over step blocks :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVDZZTgNh7U

becksmachine
12-14-2012, 11:10 AM
I have them, both made and bought.

I will look for a name on the bought ones.

Dave

JCHannum
12-14-2012, 12:46 PM
While I have the three sets mentioned, I rarely use them. My mill is a Rockwell, 6" X 24" table and, due to limited table space, I find them a bit cumbersome to use compared to the step blocks.

The other disadvantage is that, when used under half the height, they are unstable, requiring the third hand to steady them while positioning the hold down, clamping bolt and work piece.

They live at the bottom of my tooling cabinet and I usually forget I have them until after I have cobbled up something else. My step blocks live at the top rear.

thebigron
12-14-2012, 02:14 PM
Yes, I am referring to what Old Time is talking about and Peter S. posted a picture of exactly, but maybe as JCHannum quotes they may be unstable in certain situations. Many thanks for looking and taking the time to contribute.

Bob Fisher
12-14-2012, 02:38 PM
They are used to clamp work to the mill table if you do not have step blocks. The down side is that they require a ot of space. I certainly would not want to use them on a faceplate tho. They could have some uses however. Bob.

becksmachine
12-14-2012, 04:24 PM
Still don't know what name to call them, leaf blocks??

I remember the Morton name, but couldn't find much about them.

Dave

P.S. I see JC beat me. :p

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