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jmarkwolf
01-08-2013, 07:51 AM
I have an opportunity to pick up a nearly new Grizzley G0484 dovetail mill/drill with power feeds.

The guy bought it new 1.5 yrs ago in anticipation of some work that never materialized, and it is basically un-used.

I know this mill has been discontinued by Grizzly, and they no longer support it, but from watching this, and other forums,
I've seen accounts where others have found replacement RF-45 parts from places like Enco.

I also know there are some oil leak issues with similar models.

I don't know what tooling he may be providing but he claims he paid about $3K and wants $2.5K (the brand new Grizzley G0755 replacement with a shorter bed, is about $2.2K).
I'm not willing to pay his asking price of course, but I'm wondering what might be a reasonable offer.

Thoughts?

The Artful Bodger
01-08-2013, 01:40 PM
A fair price would have to take into consideration whatever extras he bought for the machine and which will be going with it.

kd4gij
01-08-2013, 01:48 PM
I think this is the same mill at a better price.
http://www.wttool.com/index/page/product/product_id/14840/product_name/Geared+Head+Mill+%26+Drill+with+Rigid+Dovetail+Col umn+%28WT%29&update_continue_shopping=true

MetalMunger
01-08-2013, 02:50 PM
I think this is the same mill at a better price.
http://www.wttool.com/index/page/product/product_id/14840/product_name/Geared+Head+Mill+%26+Drill+with+Rigid+Dovetail+Col umn+%28WT%29&update_continue_shopping=true

Almost, the G0484 comes with a power feed on the X-axis and power up and down on the column.

dian
01-08-2013, 03:09 PM
please dont buy it under 500 bucks. what do you want do do with it? machine matches? ( i have a 4000 Pounds mill and i shure wish it was more rigid.)

HAP
01-08-2013, 05:52 PM
I have that mill and I am very pleased with it. Lots of options and good table size. There is no way he paid 3K for it. The 2010 catalogue lists it at $2,145.00, what I paid for mine. If its really in the like new condition, I would offer $1,500.00. The only problem I had is the coil in the power button fried.

R,
HAP

tmarks11
01-08-2013, 07:29 PM
I don't know what tooling he may be providing but he claims he paid about $3K and wants $2.5K (the brand new Grizzley G0755 replacement with a shorter bed, is about $2.2K).

He wants way too much money. $1200-1500 max.

The mill was introduced in 2008 for $1795 (+shipping), and discontinued in 2011 at $2195 (IIRC). It was a nice looking machine, but early variant had a lot of problems, and Grizzly never could seem to get them in stock. I think they discontinued them because of issues with getting machines from the manufacturers.

The newly introduced follow-on mill (G0755) is only $2195 +$150 (S&H), so his price is way too much. The G0755 is a good deal vs the ones below, since it comes with a stand and with power down and longitudinal feed. Wonder when they will have them in stock? ZAY7045, same mill that lathemaster used to sell.

G0755 doesn't really have a shorter bed then the G0484 (31.5 vs 32.25), but the specifications show a significant difference in travel (17 vs 21). I think I would still buy the current G0755 version, as it is the ZAY7045 and will have better parts availability.

You can buy a new RF45 mill from a number of other sources for cheaper then his "used" price:

Precision Matthews $2100 + $200 (S&H): http://machinetoolonline.com/PM45MMill.html
Wttool $1800 + ???(S&H): http://www.wttool.com/index/page/product/product_id/14840/ (Bigger table then G0484)
Enco: IDK, offline right now, but if you wait until their 15% off sale, you can get a steal
Machine Tool Warehouse: $1900 CDN +??? (S&H). https://www.machinetoolswarehouse.com/xcart/catalog/MD002-RF45-clone-p-16134.html
Penn Tool Co: $1700 +??? (S&H): http://www.penntoolco.com/catalog/products/products.cfm?categoryID=4493

You really worried about the table size difference? Go for a "Industrial Hobbies clone":

Machine Tool Warehouse: $2499 CDN +??? (S&H). https://www.machinetoolswarehouse.com/xcart/catalog/MD001-IH-Clone-p-16133.html It has a realtively enormous table at 39.5" x 9.375" (compared to G0484 22.25x9.375)

You could go to Industrial Hobbies for this mill, but they currently have a checkered internet reputation.
http://www.ihcnc.com/pages/bed-mill.php

HAP
01-08-2013, 07:48 PM
Probably the most enjoyed feature is the power up and down of the head. Not available on the other suggested models. One of the main reason I went with the 0484. Just me though...

tmarks11
01-08-2013, 09:22 PM
Probably the most enjoyed feature is the power up and down of the head. Not available on the other suggested models. One of the main reason I went with the 0484. Just me though...

Actually the replacement for the G0484, the G0755, has power up/down for the head. I wonder when Grizzly will actually have it available? Took like 9 months in 2008 to stock the G0484 IIRC.

http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2013/Main/598

usnfc
01-09-2013, 04:54 PM
Here is the one G0754 on the Grizzly website for $1645...Its similar to the one posted above, but round column...

http://www.grizzly.com/products/Heavy-Duty-Mill-Drill-with-Power-Feed/G0754

uhmgawa
01-28-2013, 08:40 PM
G0755 doesn't really have a shorter bed then the G0484 (31.5 vs 32.25), but the specifications show a significant difference in travel (17 vs 21). I think I would still buy the current G0755 version, as it is the ZAY7045 and will have better parts availability.


It appears the saddle is about the typical 14.5" width of a sibling RF-45 clone. So either the range has been
intentionally limited or it is simply stated incorrectly. If the former and limited by screw length/mount it
likely can be restored to the expected travel in the process of a CNC retrofit.

Paul Alciatore
01-29-2013, 04:04 AM
I paid about $2k plus several hundred shipping for mine. And had to wait almost a year for delivery. \

It is a nice machine and I like it. If you do get one, one thing I learned the hard way is there are three bolts that lock the head rotation down, not just the two easily seen ones.

loose nut
01-30-2013, 07:38 PM
I also know there are some oil leak issues with similar models.



They tend to leak a little bit around the spindle but it isn't a problem, so far.

HAP
01-30-2013, 10:04 PM
They tend to leak a little bit around the spindle but it isn't a problem, so far.

Do you know if there is a fix for the oil leak?

Paul Alciatore
01-31-2013, 01:12 AM
Do you know if there is a fix for the oil leak?

Well, you could drain the oil.

Dr Stan
01-31-2013, 08:06 AM
Well, you could drain the oil.

That should fix all the problems with the Griz mill. :D