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outsider347
02-21-2013, 01:00 PM
As stated, about to (finally) buy
Wondering if anyone might know of any coupons or specials available?
I did several google searches & came up empty.
Large purchase for me & hate to have to pay full $$

ZipSnipe
02-21-2013, 02:00 PM
Congratz, that is my favorite looking mill that I do NOT own. Grizzly is the only one I have seen that sells that model. Penn tool used to have its smaller brother but no longer carries it.

I did see on another forum a member got his from Grizzly and the z axis wasn't fully ground so inspect the ways but shouldn't be too bad.

achtanelion
02-21-2013, 02:47 PM
I've got the busy bee tools equivalent model (CT129N). It's a weiss BF-20 when it isn't in disguise. Not a bad mill at all. The column's flexible, especially with z near the top, but with reasonably light cuts you can turn out accurate work. I'm not sure about the G0704, but mine has metric leadscrews and imperial dials.

J

tlfamm
02-21-2013, 04:15 PM
Buying your BF20 from Grizzly (G0704) saves you one dollar over the Precision Matthews version (PM20MV); delivered prices compared:

http://www.grizzly.com/products/Drill-Mill-with-Stand/G0704
http://www.machinetoolonline.com/PM-MV-BenchMills.html

Black_Moons
02-21-2013, 04:36 PM
Good looking machine. Any square collumn you'll love.

sasquatch
02-21-2013, 05:20 PM
I have the Canadian version of that mill, and for the stuff i do i am quite happy with it so far.

The fits and finish were very good, a nice running mill.

outsider347
02-21-2013, 05:52 PM
anyone know where I can look for a discount coupon?

sbmathias
02-21-2013, 05:55 PM
I just got a 10% off coupon for any Grizzly item with my Woodworker's Journal magazine. Use this number:
13WJ7735428RA

uncle pete
02-21-2013, 06:13 PM
No I certainly can't blame you for looking for the cheapest price. But I can say after a couple of years of ownership that you'll be looking back at the original mill price as a pretty cheap deal. Milling machines eat money for tooling, and there's no real difference just because you bought a smaller mill. The actual tooling cost's are about the same unless you buy ultra small or an ultra large mill.

Pete

sasquatch
02-21-2013, 07:07 PM
You got that right Pete!!

I spent more on tooling, (And not finished yet,) than i did for the mill. (Fun buying tools though!) Lol

uncle pete
02-21-2013, 07:25 PM
Ray,
LOL,Yeah well I sure wish I was wrong about it. And that's just for the real need to have tooling. The fun or very cool to have and use get's real costly real fast. I'm past twice what my Bridgeport clone cost, and there's more than a few items I'd very much like to have. "Volstro milling accesories" is a term Bridgeport type owners should not ever Google. There no longer in business, but even used prices are real high.

Pete

darryl
02-21-2013, 10:11 PM
Besides tooling, there's fixturing. If you include the vise as tooling, then fixturing is every other thing that helps you hold workpieces. I can often get pieces of metal that I'll make a fixture out of for cheap, but it always takes time to get that stuff together and working. I've probably spent about as much time making jigs as spent on actually machining of parts. Just yesterday I spent about 3 hours making up some 1/2 inch thick angle iron fixtures for a 1 hour total machining operation. Of course I'll be able to use the fixtures in future.

sasquatch
02-22-2013, 08:14 AM
Making a jig or fixture to me is also part of the fun, but if i was doing this to make a living it probably wouldn't be.

mechman48
02-22-2013, 12:25 PM
I would go for it, bought mine here in the UK at our largest northern exhibition, UK version WM 16 ..(AKA BF20L).. with MT2 taper as opposed to MT3 in the G0704, so got a package deal along with WM250V-F lathe, it has & is doing what I give it to do with reasonable d.o.c. put on tooling. Be sure to tighten up all fastenings when /if you get one, check bearings on table, clean & apply new grease to same, adjust X & Y axis gib keys to take out slack, had to replace one X axis locking lever as they are easily broken (made out of Mazak/Magalloy/ pot metal & easily broken if too much pressure is applied) otherwise I'm using it as is, straight out of the box & so far no major probs!
Cheers :D
George

sasquatch
02-22-2013, 05:04 PM
Morse Taper?? I don't think any of them have a morse taper anymore, they all seem to be R-8, at least the ones i see advertised. Mine is R-8

riceone
02-22-2013, 06:34 PM
Last June I bought a Grizzly 12x24 gear head lathe. lathe and have been very pleased. I already had a Jet 13x40 and the Grizzly is a much truer lathe. Tooling is high but you don't have to buy it all at one time. Buy as you need. I have a few pricy tools that I bought 10 - 12 years ago and never used.

outsider347
02-22-2013, 08:58 PM
Just one more question
I'll probably buy a 4 " vise form Griz

what do you think of this one

http://www.grizzly.com/products/Premium-Milling-Vise-4-/G7156

Toolguy
02-22-2013, 09:04 PM
That one would be a good choice.

sasquatch
02-22-2013, 09:25 PM
The 4in is fine, i have a 4 on mine. The 5in may be too big, and the 6in is WAY TOO BIG!!

paulsv
02-23-2013, 12:27 AM
I have the G0704 and that vise. The 4 inch is a good size match. A 5 inch would be nice, but you don't see a lot of them available. But I wouldn't buy that vise again. 90 percent of my work is held in the vise, so I use it constantly. I've spent a lot of time trying to get the jaws square to the bed, and trying to keep stock from lifting off of the parallels, with limited success. (I'm sure a better machinist than I could have it whipped into shape, especially if he had access to a surface grinder.) It makes it hard to square up stock and do really accurate work. Since I use it all the time, I wish I had splurged on something with better quality. It is a shame that the 4" Kurt costs so much ($200 more than the 6" Kurt.). If I can't find a used Kurt pretty soon, I might try a Glacern. I'm not sure how much better it would be, but I've heard good comments about them. Btw, I am very happy with the G0704.

outsider347
02-23-2013, 09:47 AM
paulsv:
Thanks for the response
I was afarade that that would be the case

I looked at the 4' Glacern & thats at 299.00 & 99.00 for the 360deg base

Comments on the Glacern anyone?
tks

paulsv
02-23-2013, 01:31 PM
Not a comment on the Glacern, but I'd suggest that you forget about the 360 degree base. Everyone starting out thinks they need one, and then they very seldom if ever use it. I bought mine several years ago, despite having received comments to that effect, and, sure enough, I have never used the swivel base.

Deja Vu
02-23-2013, 01:38 PM
Here's a link to Hoss's G0704.... A lot can be done with it!
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/benchtop_machines/98694-hosss_g0704.html