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Mike Burdick
02-24-2013, 12:10 AM
Any suggestions on a good quality wheelbarrow?

The Artful Bodger
02-24-2013, 12:25 AM
At last, a thread that will surely give the Chinese the credit they deserve...

oldtiffie
02-24-2013, 02:25 AM
Try a Builders barrow.

Here is mine - never regretted it for a minuts as it has done all I needed of it.

http://www.vetner.com.au/product-range/wheelbarrows/wheelbarrows/sherlock-heavy-duty-professional-builders-barrow/

Other links:

http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=4&gs_ri=psy-ab&cp=15&gs_id=1w&xhr=t&q=builders+barrow&es_nrs=true&pf=p&rlz=1W1IRFC_enAU360&sclient=psy-ab&oq=builders+barrow&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.42768644,d.dGI&fp=52e25552b949de7b&biw=1920&bih=846

MrFluffy
02-24-2013, 04:12 AM
Cue all the people saying to get one with solid wheels, who obviously all own perfectly flat and stone free areas they want to use it in :)

Arcane
02-24-2013, 04:27 AM
Depending on what you use the wheel barrow for and how often, sometimes a solid wheel makes more sense than a pneumatic one. I rarely use my wheel barrow and when I do, it's for light loads and only a few of them. I got fed up with finding the stock pneumatic tire flat when I needed it and when it finally aged enough that it wouldn't hold air, I replaced it with a solid tire which has been trouble free.

Black Forest
02-24-2013, 04:39 AM
Oh Oh Oh, Gentlemen this is my area of expertise! Some of you know that I am a farmer(horses not crops) and not a machinist. Wheelbarrows are my life.

As in the machining posts we need more info from you. What usage, what capacity, what terrain? I have at least 6 wheelbarrows on my place. Three galvanized steel and three plastic two wheeled wheelbarrows. Oh I forgot, I also have a wheelbarrow that attaches to my excavator for cement work!

So give us more information and then we can answer your question.

Or as JTeirs is fond of writing: "This thread is useless without more information."

The Artful Bodger
02-24-2013, 04:43 AM
Ummmm, real wheel barrows have only one wheel. Two wheeled ones are called hand carts(?).;)

How about one of these?
http://media.scraphacker.com/2012/02/Throne-Folger.jpg
(..there are many variations on this theme)

Black Forest
02-24-2013, 05:50 AM
Ummmm, real wheel barrows have only one wheel. Two wheeled ones are called hand carts(?).;)

How about one of these?
http://media.scraphacker.com/2012/02/Throne-Folger.jpg
(..there are many variations on this theme)

Put a hole in the chair seat and you have a true porta potty!

Euph0ny
02-24-2013, 05:58 AM
Cue all the people saying to get one with solid wheels, who obviously all own perfectly flat and stone free areas they want to use it in :)

Horses for courses. I am in the middle of renovating a house, and our building site seems to be a giant magnet for stray screws and other pointy objects, no matter how vigilant I am or how often I sweep the drive and pathways. In the past 18 months, I have replaced punctured tubed tyres on two of our three wheelbarrows with solid tyres, and the (now punctured) third wheel will also be getting a solid. I have also had to repair three punctured car tyres in the same period...

darryl
02-24-2013, 06:45 AM
'Put a hole in the chair seat and you have a true porta potty!'

Yeah, but when you go to move it, ya gotta watch that first step :(

Weston Bye
02-24-2013, 07:54 AM
'Put a hole in the chair seat and you have a true porta potty!'

Yeah, but when you go to move it, ya gotta watch that first step :(

Dang, a coffee-on-the-keyboard moment!

Weston Bye
02-24-2013, 07:57 AM
Ummmm, real wheel barrows have only one wheel. Two wheeled ones are called hand carts(?).;)

How about one of these?
http://media.scraphacker.com/2012/02/Throne-Folger.jpg
(..there are many variations on this theme)

I am having some difficulty deciding how I would transport myself around with that.

Black Forest
02-24-2013, 09:02 AM
I am having some difficulty deciding how I would transport myself around with that.

Weston haven't you ever seen a Western film. The cowboys always grab a chair and turn it around. So in this particular instance you straddle the chair backwards and grab the handles. Now you can go from place to place while sitting.

As to the porta potty first step. Simple, Just back away. Duh!

You guys don't know sh!t!!!!!

Abner
02-24-2013, 10:19 AM
Personally, I think the standard wheel barrow is a poor design for most uses; carrying 1/2 the weight on you, it's also tippy, and the wheels are small diameter making them harder to push. Here is a design that I have come up with based on a manufactured cart by the now defunt Gleason Industries. I used common kids bike tires available new and cheap or used and cheaper. Buy the bike toss the frame. We have used these many years and can carry quite a heavy load. You can fit it with side boards for loose materials, a wheel barrow tub for concrete, or shelves for trays of items.

The only shortcoming is it must be unloaded from the non handle end first. You will be reminded every time you don't follow this rule, and your load will be all over the ground.

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa477/mfnsy/DSCN8772_zps1ecc18e1.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa477/mfnsy/DSCN8774_zps32bf190f.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa477/mfnsy/DSCN8773_zps61b6ca46.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa477/mfnsy/DSCN8771_zps18abb675.jpg

Black Forest
02-24-2013, 11:36 AM
This is how you push a "hand cart" the easy way. My ten year old daughter is too small to empty it when it is full. With my knees as bad as they are I don't like to push it very far. So I do it this way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiq4Ba2biMk

Euph0ny
02-24-2013, 11:46 AM
How about a Chinese wheelbarrow (http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2011/12/the-chinese-wheelbarrow.html)? The design is interesting, as the axle takes all the weight of the load, and the driver need not lift, only steer...

The Artful Bodger
02-24-2013, 02:00 PM
Put a hole in the chair seat and you have a true porta potty!

Sorry BF but that is not an original idea, Chinese farmers used to have wheel barrow porta potties that they would take into town to get fertilizer for their farms. I wish I could find a picture.

Black Forest
02-24-2013, 02:09 PM
Sorry BF but that is not an original idea, Chinese farmers used to have wheel barrow porta potties that they would take into town to get fertilizer for their farms. I wish I could find a picture.

I didn't say it was original. But now I think I won't be frequenting the local Chinese restaurant! Thanks man, I really liked that place.

The Artful Bodger
02-24-2013, 02:41 PM
OT, it has been my 'pleasure' to visit Kabul several times in recent years. The house I stayed in had flush toilets and active minds do wonder, you know, how the sanitation system when everything else had been destroyed. Ha ha, one day we drove by a different route and passed an open pond at the end of the street where men and boys were shoveling the contents into wooden tanks on donkey carts taking it out to the vegetable plots out near the airport. I presume they backloaded fresh vegetable in the same carts!;)

MrFluffy
02-24-2013, 02:46 PM
Depending on what you use the wheel barrow for and how often, sometimes a solid wheel makes more sense than a pneumatic one. I rarely use my wheel barrow and when I do, it's for light loads and only a few of them. I got fed up with finding the stock pneumatic tire flat when I needed it and when it finally aged enough that it wouldn't hold air, I replaced it with a solid tire which has been trouble free.
I use a wheelbarrow far too much for my liking as I'm converting a cowshed into a house amongst other jobs. Imagine me running across the yard with a cement mixers worth of concrete in the barrow, the guy I'm working with is damn fast so I have to run to keep him fed and we have the mixer set up in a dirty area so nice ornamental areas dont end up that splashed grey effect you always end up with in the area.
I hit a stone, pneumatic tyre deflects, the handles flex, the barrow shudders a bit and you carry on without too much drama. And once you get used to them, they do make handling a heavy load suprisingly easy and the single wheel becomes a asset rather than a hindrance.
Super solid barrow with solid wheel hits large stone (I inherited one made from angle iron once...), *DONGGGGG*, there's no give in the solid wheel or handles at all and barrow ends up tipping wet slurm all over some pretty feature and you scrape what you can back in, along with various contaminants while cursing believing all those forum posts (I'm not meaning just here, its a re-occuring theme on pm too) about how solid wheels were so much better. I'll take having to pump it up on the compressor before work the odd time and putting a tube or two in a year over crippling it and myself for when doing heavy jobs :)
I get your point partially though. I have two sack trucks for the same sort of reasoning, one with solids for use in the concreted spaces, and a second with larger pneumatic wheel's for out in the yard and other not so flat places.

To the two wheeled cart posted, I think the centre of gravity of that is far too high when you get off level for whatever reason. I've got a similar converted handcart that I pull on the back of my Massey Harris tractor for carrying garden waste round the garden, and I have rolled it and twisted the towing eye off on a bank carrying sand and hitting a soft spot already. So beware on a incline...

Chinese barrow design looks interesting, they use a similar idea called push bikes in Africa.
http://www.saffron-ventures.com/personal/woodbikes/ephraim-small.jpg

MrFluffy
02-24-2013, 02:54 PM
This is how you push a "hand cart" the easy way. My ten year old daughter is too small to empty it when it is full. With my knees as bad as they are I don't like to push it very far. So I do it this way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiq4Ba2biMk
Great, I used to pick up the green pull along waste thingy my wife used in the garden with the jcb, by just nipping it's handle in the clamshell bucket and picking it up. Only one day I slipped closing the bucket and cut the handle off with the power of the clamshell. She who must be occasionally pretended to be obeyed was not impressed, especially as she had been predicting it going wrong doing this for about a year. I just get off and throw the contents in the bucket with the replacement :D

MrFluffy
02-24-2013, 03:14 PM
And a actual useful contribution I hope. I treat wheel barrows as a job consumable, so don't focus too much on brands or reputation, just buy what looks ok in the big box stores and throw it away when its fatigued and battered, just take the wheel off for a spare for the next one and skip it.

The one thing you do have to watch out for is there are some really cheap barrows with no front bumpers on. That is, they don't have the hoop in front of the front wheel, so when you tip them on end to unload, the wheel runs away back towards you and you overbalance and it bends the front of the bucket back (and I do this when I get tired no matter how dilligent I am...) , sure you can kick it straight again but after a few times of course it will split along this line. So make sure they haven't cheaped out on the build so bad it doesn't have that bumper...

Abner
02-24-2013, 03:42 PM
Yes going side hill with the cart I built and a load of firewood made for a set of clown tires that I had to replace. On flat ground it works great. We still use 3 or 4 wheel barrows, mostly for used potting soil and dead plants. For anything else these "flat carts" are used daily. They balance almost perfectly so all you have to do is push. Garden way makes a wagon with 28" bicycle wheels but I found them to be heavy and hard to maneuver.

mygrizzly1022
02-24-2013, 04:36 PM
Hi

Look for, and treat yourself a high quality contractor type wheelbarrow. Have tube put in the tire at the local tire shop. Now here is the important part. You have purchased at high quality tool, look after it as you would any other high quality tool. Paint it from time to time, maintain tire pressure, put some linseed oil on the handles,grease the front axle and store it out of the weather. Given the above kind of care I have managed to have the same wheelbarrow in service on the farm for 40 plus years.
Now here is another little but important tip that will increase the life span of your good one. At the same time you purchase your high quality wheelbarrow, purchase a cheap one as well. When someone wants to borrow your wheelbarrow you let him have the piece of crap. You now will be assured that, he will not likely ask again, and you’re good one will not be returned half full of cement.

Regards Bert

kf2qd
02-24-2013, 10:26 PM
Ummmm, real wheel barrows have only one wheel. Two wheeled ones are called hand carts(?).;)

How about one of these?
http://media.scraphacker.com/2012/02/Throne-Folger.jpg
(..there are many variations on this theme)

I would suggest that that is a rare, but useful Butt Cart. Now if you can find someone who wants to cart your butt, or a butt you would like to cart...

kf2qd
02-24-2013, 10:29 PM
My personal preference is for a 2 wheeled wheel barrow.

And get a tube or 2 of green slime and slime the inflatable tires and the problem with flats will go away.

michigan doug
02-24-2013, 11:17 PM
Tried the slime. Tried the solids. Not satisfied with either arrangement.

WHY DO THEY GO FLAT? My car tires don't go flat anything close to that fast. My old tubed bike tires never went flat that fast.

Cheap chinese rubber???


doug

flylo
02-25-2013, 12:04 AM
Pick up one those 18" magnet on wheels which are junk but cost about $10. Take off the handle & hang it loosly ftom chains to the tub so when you lift the handles it rides 1/2" off the ground. You'll be surprised at all the nails & screws it will find. We always had a big one on the lift truck counterweight.


Horses for courses. I am in the middle of renovating a house, and our building site seems to be a giant magnet for stray screws and other pointy objects, no matter how vigilant I am or how often I sweep the drive and pathways. In the past 18 months, I have replaced punctured tubed tyres on two of our three wheelbarrows with solid tyres, and the (now punctured) third wheel will also be getting a solid. I have also had to repair three punctured car tyres in the same period...

Euph0ny
02-25-2013, 06:42 AM
Pick up one those 18" magnet on wheels...

What a fantastic idea! I think I even have some old magnetic knife racks which would work just fine for that. Thanks. :cool:

All this talk of solid wheels and 40-year old wheelbarrows reminds me of my father's wheelbarrow. When his house was being built in 1960, he rescued two damaged wheelbarrows from the builders' wastepile; one had a damaged bucket, the other a damaged frame. He married the undamaged parts, and had a whole barrow, plus a spare wheel. About twenty years ago, the second wheel (the metal rim) finally succumbed to rust. Instead of replacing it, he filled both hollows of the rim with fast-setting cement, which bonded nicely from side to side through all the rust pockmarks. That wheel is still in service on the same barrow, solid tyre, solid rim and all!

EVguru
02-25-2013, 07:20 AM
The stability problem with wheelbarrows was adressed many years ago by James Dyson;

http://media.dyson.com/images_resize_sites/inside_dyson/assets/UK/main/ballbarrow_01.jpg

My mother used to have one which she quite liked, but the plastic wasn't UV stable and it fell to bits after a few years. The metal versions were too big and too expensive for her.

Doing somethig silly with barrows;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNx6QbzO_-c

EVguru
02-25-2013, 07:20 AM
If that's not silly enough, try the Purple Helmets


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJyzxHGM2YE

malbenbut
02-25-2013, 07:25 AM
Molly Malones barrow going spare but may smell of fish.
MBB

outlawspeeder
02-25-2013, 11:22 AM
My recommendation is to get a frontend loader. One cubic yard is hard to beat and you don't have to work hard. Next to the lathe and BP, it is the most used tool I have. It also comes in handy for moving the heavy tools around. I can give you my old wheelbarrow but it has a flat and hasn't moved in two years....

Euph0ny
02-25-2013, 11:40 AM
My recommendation is to get a frontend loader.

How could I have forgotten? A engineer friend of mine manufactures the Loadadump (http://www.loadadump.be/index_en.html), a motorised wheelbarrow. He sells lots of them overseas, particularly to Africa, where the need for machinery is great, but large-scale hydraulic diggers and dumpers are prohibitively expensive for most people.

Mike Burdick
02-25-2013, 01:03 PM
hmmmmm... this thread kinda sorta got sidetracked a bit.... :(

Anyway, I got a wheelbarrow made by Jackson, single wheel. It looks like it'll do the job.

Thanks for the suggestions...

Mike