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oxford
06-01-2013, 12:32 PM
Here it is in all its glory, Pratt and Whitney model 16c 16x54 lathe. Had a couple pucker factors getting it on the trailer but all went ok, hopefully getting it off goes the same. Must have told my dad 20 times not to stand next to the lathe when it was getting loaded, his hands weren't going to hold it back if it went.

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/klx411/lathe/DSCN9718_zps5044f5c7.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/klx411/media/lathe/DSCN9718_zps5044f5c7.jpg.html)

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/klx411/lathe/DSCN9721_zps8fb48bfe.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/klx411/media/lathe/DSCN9721_zps8fb48bfe.jpg.html)

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/klx411/lathe/DSCN9719_zpsb9806ba0.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/klx411/media/lathe/DSCN9719_zpsb9806ba0.jpg.html)

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/klx411/lathe/DSCN9720_zps4ff99eb0.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/klx411/media/lathe/DSCN9720_zps4ff99eb0.jpg.html)

flylo
06-01-2013, 12:41 PM
Was that the free one posted a couple weeks ago? If so YOU REALLY SUCK! & Congrats!:rolleyes:

oxford
06-01-2013, 12:48 PM
No, its not that one. I don't think that was a P&W. Want to take a road trip Flylo? I'll swap you for a vertical mill.

Dr Stan
06-01-2013, 12:50 PM
Was that the free one posted a couple weeks ago? If so YOU REALLY SUCK! & Congrats!:rolleyes:

No that was a Monarch.

flylo
06-01-2013, 01:43 PM
OK I'm felling great, still get tired easy but the pic line is out, I drive yesterday for the 1st tine in about 2 months, the trucks ready & fueled & I have too many mills if thats possible! Leave it on the trailer & we'll meet half way.

No, its not that one. I don't think that was a P&W. Want to take a road trip Flylo? I'll swap you for a vertical mill.

john hobdeclipe
06-01-2013, 02:14 PM
Are those "T" slots along the back of the lathe bed? Other than maybe a taper attachment, what would you use them for?

Peter.
06-01-2013, 02:27 PM
Oh that's a beauty! Well done.

oxford
06-01-2013, 02:32 PM
Are those "T" slots along the back of the lathe bed? Other than maybe a taper attachment, what would you use them for?

They are, check this brochure out it shows some of the attachments that were available. http://members.shaw.ca/Zengineer/P&W...20-%201953.pdf

Dr Stan
06-01-2013, 03:09 PM
One more thing all of us have forgotten to do, including myself.

YOU SUCK!:)

flylo
06-01-2013, 03:46 PM
Look at the 1st post under the OPs. Your losing it Doc. Probably too much aluminum in the brain!:p

One more thing all of us have forgotten to do, including myself.

YOU SUCK!:)

Dr Stan
06-01-2013, 10:35 PM
Look at the 1st post under the OPs. Your losing it Doc. Probably too much aluminum in the brain!:p

Just CRS disease. :)

flylo
06-01-2013, 10:50 PM
Me Too! I posted that then couldn'r remember how to spell Pauls last name.I seem to always reverse the last 2 letters. I just love that story as it showa it's 10% machine 90% machinist, Boy am I in trouble. Paybacks are h*ll they say!:rolleyes:

Tony Ennis
06-01-2013, 11:21 PM
What's that thing weight? I could barely handle #1,500 lbs.

flylo
06-01-2013, 11:37 PM
I'm guessing 4500-5500#, That's just a WAG, I think my Pacemaker weighd 6300#. The Boyes & Emmes was 8000#+.

Abaker
06-02-2013, 07:18 AM
Very nice machine. If you have never used a machine in that class you will be really happy with it. I recently got a Monarch about the same size and I found that cuts were limited more by the operator than the machine. It's a huge job moving them, but when that first giant blue chip peels off - ahhh, worth it.

What's the top spindle speed?

Do you know when it was built? They get heavier going through the '40s and '50s. So if that's a late 50's machine it's probably well north of 6000 lbs for 16X54 machine. Could easily be in the 7-8k range. For comparison my (supposed) 3.5 ton floor jack overloads when I try to lift the headstock end of a 1942 16X72 Monarch model CY. Later models had even more beef.

Edit:

Link to attachments doesn't work for me. I'm curious about the goodies you could get with that lathe.

ScubaSteve
06-02-2013, 07:49 AM
Beautiful machine!

Kinda funny that you were telling your dad to stay back....usually it's the other way around....LOL.

beckley23
06-02-2013, 09:40 AM
The 16 X 54 P&W weighs approx 5000 LBS, a little less than the same size C series Monarch at 5500 LBS. IIRC, the P&W had a top end of 1000 or 1500, depending on how it was ordered. Monarch's in that size, ranged from 487 to 1000, depending on how it was ordered. Monarch's are easy to change the top end, I'm not sure on P&W, but I think you are stuck with what it is.

The P&W shown is one of the last ones built, and before 1965 when they quit manufacturing lathes.
Harry

oxford
06-02-2013, 11:02 AM
Beautiful machine!

Kinda funny that you were telling your dad to stay back....usually it's the other way around....LOL.

I think he was starting to get mad, after one of the times I told him I got the "I know":D. I then had to remind him of the time we were re-doing my house and there was floor boards missing from the second floor. I must have told him 50 times to stay away from there, well you guessed it he went in. Luckily he didn't hit the first floor, he got hung up on a joist.

P&W puts the weight at 4650 pounds. I am sure that is bare with no chuck or accessories pretty much the way it is sitting on the trailer. I don't know how much they under rated the older fork trucks but we had a 4000 pound lift to help assist loading it. The truck would pick the entire thing up but it took everything it had to do it.

I didn't check it out yet but the top speed should be 1000 rpm on the lathe. As far as the attachments besides the taper attachment that would mount there they also offered "relieving" attachments for it. It looks like you could get for straight flute, spiral flute, side relieving, and combination radial and side. There was also a spindle mounted gear reducer to work with these that could get you to a 2 rpm low speed.

flylo
06-02-2013, 11:53 AM
I win the weight guess:p We used to have Lincoln dealer in town that did very well. I was in there for something one day & a rather large lady was looking at a new Lincoln when the owner Frank tells her I bet I can guess your weight, yep I used to weigh cows for a living. Needless to say he didn't sell her one. True story!