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  • mickeyf
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 1832

    Way OT: "Gun safety"

    Somtimes you just gotta sigh deeply and carry on...

    You don't even need to read the article, just the title.

    "gun_safety_teacher_accidentally_shoots_student_du ring_class"
    "A machinist's (WHAP!) best friend (WHAP! WHAP!) is his hammer. (WHAP!)" - Fred Tanner, foreman, Lunenburg Foundry and Engineering machine shop, circa 1979
  • vpt
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 8809

    #2
    A .38 bullet from a .357?
    Andy

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    • Highpower
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 1921

      #3
      Yes. You can fire .38 special ammunition in a .357 magnum revolver - but not vice versa.
      Both use 0.357" diameter projectiles.
      Last edited by Highpower; 08-13-2013, 10:20 PM. Reason: punctuation

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      • michigan doug
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 1265

        #4
        For those who have had no formal training concerning firearms, there are four inviolate rules. In order for something bad to happen, you have to break at least two rules. So if you don't break any of the rules, you're golden.

        1. Assume that all guns are loaded, all the time. Period.

        2. Never point the gun at anything unless you are willing to kill/destroy it/them.

        3. Never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to kill/destroy the target.

        4. Know your target, with certainty, and what's behind the target.


        Your public service announcement for the day.

        doug

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        • _Paul_
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 652

          #5
          Originally posted by michigan doug View Post
          For those who have had no formal training concerning firearms, there are four inviolate rules. In order for something bad to happen, you have to break at least two rules. So if you don't break any of the rules, you're golden.

          1. Assume that all guns are loaded, all the time. Period.

          2. Never point the gun at anything unless you are willing to kill/destroy it/them.

          3. Never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to kill/destroy the target.

          4. Know your target, with certainty, and what's behind the target.


          Your public service announcement for the day.

          doug
          +1

          Paul

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          • Sun God
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 398

            #6
            If only it made the news every time a driving instructor had a car accident. Or a flying instructor crashed their aircraft (which happens alarmingly frequently).

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            • Jaakko Fagerlund
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 3256

              #7
              Originally posted by Sun God View Post
              If only it made the news every time a driving instructor had a car accident. Or a flying instructor crashed their aircraft (which happens alarmingly frequently).
              Or a student forgets his/her chuck key in place or the workpiece works out of the chuck.
              Amount of experience is in direct proportion to the value of broken equipment.

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              • WhatTheFlux!
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 347

                #8
                Originally posted by michigan doug View Post
                For those who have had no formal training concerning firearms, there are four inviolate rules. In order for something bad to happen, you have to break at least two rules. So if you don't break any of the rules, you're golden.

                1. Assume that all guns are loaded, all the time. Period.

                2. Never point the gun at anything unless you are willing to kill/destroy it/them.

                3. Never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to kill/destroy the target.

                4. Know your target, with certainty, and what's behind the target.


                Your public service announcement for the day.

                doug
                I am not a "gun person" and I know these rules.

                But then again I have been accused of possessing a level of common sense that far exceeds that of most people.

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                • Sun God
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 398

                  #9
                  Originally posted by WhatTheFlux! View Post
                  I am not a "gun person" and I know these rules.

                  But then again I have been accused of possessing a level of common sense that far exceeds that of most people.
                  Would you go so far as to call it uncommon sense?

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                  • vpt
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 8809

                    #10
                    Also leave the gun on safety ALL the time until ready to shoot the target! That is the one big one missing from the list.
                    Andy

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                    • Deus Machina
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 304

                      #11
                      Originally posted by vpt View Post
                      A .38 bullet from a .357?
                      To clarify, guns have all sorts of odd carryover nomenclature.
                      A .357 Magnum and .38 Special both use .357" bullets. The .38 Special was originally measured at the casing diameter.
                      Does not apply to old .38 S&W or the like, which actually are closer to .38".

                      I wish instructors that crashed or left a key in the chuck got little blurbs in the news.
                      I can't remember ever leaving a key in the chuck, but remember one of the guys in my auto tech class left a great big wrench on the brake lathe before turning it on. It actually got a good bit of speed before it came off.
                      Knocked a big chunk out of the cinderblock wall on the other side of the niche it was in. He's lucky he wasn't in the way.

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                      • Deus Machina
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 304

                        #12
                        Originally posted by vpt View Post
                        Also leave the gun on safety ALL the time until ready to shoot the target! That is the one big one missing from the list.

                        Not one of the big four. Because unofficial #5 is "Never rely on the safety."
                        It's nice, but the biggest safety is following the four rules.

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                        • jep24601
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 1148

                          #13
                          Originally posted by vpt View Post
                          Also leave the gun on safety ALL the time until ready to shoot the target! That is the one big one missing from the list.
                          That doesn't make sense. My double action pistol's safety only engages in the cocked position, and then there's revolvers.
                          "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"

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                          • Sun God
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 398

                            #14
                            I've fixed a dozen or so safety's over the time I spent behind the counter in a gun shop. Almost exclusively, it was only discovered they didn't work after a negligent discharge - usually into the sky, or into the dirt in front of the firing line. That was enough to teach me that there's nothing safe about a safety, and the four rules are gospel.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by michigan doug View Post
                              For those who have had no formal training concerning firearms, there are four inviolate rules. In order for something bad to happen, you have to break at least two rules. So if you don't break any of the rules, you're golden.

                              1. Assume that all guns are loaded, all the time. Period.

                              2. Never point the gun at anything unless you are willing to kill/destroy it/them.

                              3. Never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to kill/destroy the target.

                              4. Know your target, with certainty, and what's behind the target.


                              Your public service announcement for the day.

                              doug
                              Amen. First learned these in the Hunter Safety course that was required for my first hunting license. Reenforced in the military.

                              Actually Dad taught me these long before the HS course.

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