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hoffman
11-18-2013, 06:58 AM
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww112/jhoff/great%20art/IMG_1265_zps7197d2e8.jpg (http://s711.photobucket.com/user/jhoff/media/great%20art/IMG_1265_zps7197d2e8.jpg.html)

Recently dragged her out of storage. Needs a little polishing, TLC...

Someone please remind me. WHY DO I STILL NEED THIS?

:O

bborr01
11-18-2013, 07:02 AM
Cool toy but you probably don't really need it. We got rid of our real shapers in about '82 or so at the plant that I worked at and never looked back. I did enjoy running them though.

Brian

Rosco-P
11-18-2013, 07:10 AM
What size shaper? Before the usual avalanche of answers: cuts internal keyways; cuts dovetails; cheap tooling; cool to watch....... Can you spare the space? Do you take in machine work for pay? Is it large enough to handle any of those jobs, freeing up your mill for other work?

firbikrhd1
11-18-2013, 08:01 AM
You really don't need it, just send it to me.

Sorry, couldn't resist. That's nice shaper. It looks like an 8" Logan or Porter Cable.

vpt
11-18-2013, 08:15 AM
It can make a mess on the floor. :D Nice shaper!

hoffman
11-18-2013, 08:17 AM
It's either an 8" or 9" I've used it in the past to do some rack gears, do internal keyways, make T-nuts, square up stock and square blocks. I have one of the little mini-mills on the way so it may be useful for roughing stuff out for finish work on the tiny mill.

I lost the d@mned handle and some tool holders some where along the way so I guess I need to make some more...

Anyway, It's fun and exciting to get my little shop back up and running!

sasquatch
11-18-2013, 08:37 AM
Looks like possibly the 8inch Logan?? I have the same shaper visually, but older , mine is a 7 inch Porter Cable. Nice machine, great condition, and nice to use.

Tony
11-18-2013, 08:57 AM
nice!
Every time I use mine I always wonder why I don't use it more often.

Recently recut the wedge for my log splitter and had just (like an hour earlier!) trammed my mill
head back in. Didn't feel like going through all of that again so threw it on the shaper.

Like everyone else has mentioned, fun to use. Then again I'm not trying to make $ with mine.

Not the most exciting video on youtube, but there it is: http://youtu.be/Bn1Z6kw_tlA

hoffman
11-18-2013, 09:23 AM
nice!
Every time I use mine I always wonder why I don't use it more often.

Recently recut the wedge for my log splitter and had just (like an hour earlier!) trammed my mill
head back in. Didn't feel like going through all of that again so threw it on the shaper.

Like everyone else has mentioned, fun to use. Then again I'm not trying to make $ with mine.

Not the most exciting video on youtube, but there it is: http://youtu.be/Bn1Z6kw_tlA

Very cool tilting table!

dp
11-18-2013, 11:03 AM
You can never have too many T-nuts!

Stepside
11-18-2013, 11:19 AM
Keep it and clean it up if you have the room and might need it. 1) It is cheap to run 2) is handy to turn mystry metal scrap into usable material 3) It can run with little interaction once it is set up 4) It does some tasks better than a milling machine 5) they are fun to use.
6) finding another in good shape and in that size range could be difficult.

sasquatch
11-18-2013, 05:01 PM
And 7 which i have to mention, is the prices shapers sell for now, not cheap,, they are in demand .
Especially the smaller ones. (One of the cheapest metal removers to operate.)

Duffy
11-18-2013, 05:11 PM
Why do you need it? I was using mine just this afternoon, (actually making chips.) The BEST reason is that it saves walking. It is the ABSOLUTE EQUAL to a SLINKY, except you dont have to keep going back upstairs to let it go!:rolleyes:

John Stevenson
11-18-2013, 05:20 PM
Shapers are brilliant tools for holding the floor down until you can find something REALLY useful to put in it's place.

1935Ron
11-18-2013, 05:43 PM
Very nive ,,, love to see it cleaned up

alistair1537
11-18-2013, 05:50 PM
It's a time machine!! check the date the photo was taken!?

doctor demo
11-18-2013, 06:04 PM
It's a time machine!! check the date the photo was taken!?
I noticed that too, only I wanted to read all the posts before commenting. Now You have beaten Me, I'll have to see if the OP will run it in reverse for a while so My post will jump ahead of Yours.:D

Steve

oil mac
11-18-2013, 06:27 PM
I was using my little 6&1/2"stroke travelling head shaper yesterday shaping down a little bracket, Believe it or not to use my milling machine would have taken longer, & been a more awkward, took 15 minutes each side of the component (including tightening down in vice and clamping in tool) Job finished 35 minutes a pleasure to complete

The Artful Bodger
11-18-2013, 06:37 PM
I love my little Adept 2 power shaper! Small jobs, putting a flat on a shaft, a keyway (internal or external) and of course knocking the crust off rusted chunks of Inscrutamoid there is nothing better than a shaper!

boslab
11-18-2013, 09:07 PM
I have a love of shaping machines bordering on kinky!, i dont yet have one but if you can watch a 10 min video without getting bored something must be wrong, i suppose its because it was the first real metalworking machine we learned to use in school, the usual projects, vee blocks, machine vice etc.
I dont know if its true but we were told that surface plates were made with a shaper as opposed to mill, id like to see that done.
In the central workshops at the steelplant they had a planer that had about 20 foot of travel, amazing to watch it glide along producing the biggest shaving, not chip, i have ever seen, the big lathes only made chips.
I must get one, better than a stress ball.
Mark

Don Young
11-18-2013, 10:51 PM
I can't relate to 'Why do I need this?' at all, except as it refers to something I don't already have several of. In that case the answer is 'Because I like it!'.

The only shaper I have is a very old 24" Cincinnati. I need some more!

vincemulhollon
11-19-2013, 07:32 AM
Someone please remind me. WHY DO I STILL NEED THIS?

I've heard projects like this described as teenage girlfriends: Looks great, the guys are jealous, can be expensive to maintain, nobody can figure them out, doesn't produce anything, probably overall a bad idea. And a "fun" night can result in throwing your back out. There's pictures of her or one just like her all over the internet. Most guys don't want the huge heavy ones. Try not to catch a disease from her (tetanus?). You ever seen that pix captioned "no matter how fun she looks now, there's a zillion guys tired of her (four letter word here)". The analogies can just go on and on.

John Stevenson
11-19-2013, 08:19 AM
I must get one, better than a stress ball.
Mark


You mean you are going to get one, melt it down and make stress balls out of it ?

AWESOME idea :)

bewards
11-19-2013, 08:38 AM
Cool machine. If we all had just what we need, we wouldn't have much and life would be dull. I just bought one this weekend and got it home and cleaned up. It is complicated to me. Maybe after some study it will get easier.
http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy200/wbedwards/Atlas7BShaper/Atlas7BShapersmall_zps6e17e21c.jpg

bedwards



reason for edit, added pic

sasquatch
11-19-2013, 09:09 AM
bedwards, read up on it, not much to it really once you get familiar with the workings.
Nice looking shaper.

oil mac
11-19-2013, 10:14 AM
I love my little Adept 2 power shaper! Small jobs, putting a flat on a shaft, a keyway (internal or external) and of course knocking the crust off rusted chunks of Inscrutamoid there is nothing better than a shaper!

Yes Artful, The self same machine I was using "In my light machine-shop" In my heavy shop, too cold at the moment! I have a Royal 10" stroke pillar pattern machine, At one time in Britain they were referred to as Anglo American Pattern, As compared to Joseph Whitworths travelling head pattern Same as the little Adept but these big things were on steroids! (Even although that the pillar type of shaper was dreamed up by the Scottish designer James Naismyth, Whilst in the works of Maudsley Sons & Field in London Guess in the early days the American folk used this design more for its handiness & went on to build superb machines to the pillar design, Cincinnati, Hendy, Gould & Eberhart Etc.

boslab
11-19-2013, 10:23 AM
I must admit to melting down more than a few shapers, watching them slide into the converter was always sad., mut there i must have seen every machine created going to its firey end, 12 mins of mach2 oxygen and its gone!.
Guns were also a popular addition as scrap to get rid of them, 60 tons at a time, thats a lot of guns. We also incinerated porn, drugs and money occasionaly (all great stress releivers!).
Funniest one was dope, bales of the stuff were delivered on a lorry by armed police, bout 20 tons, so we sanwiched the bales between scrap punchings in a scrap bin, charged the converter with 180 tons of liquid iron, then added the scrap and drugs, normally there is a giant fan to extract the fume up the hood and into the flare stack, the fan is about 15 foot diameter, strangely it tripped out and the extraction was dead, leaving the dope to burn on top of the scrap, slowley! The charger crane driver up above had to go home by taxi as he was as high as a kite!, the whole of port talbot smelled like an amsterdam brown bar.
We didnt burn drugs anymore!
Industrial stress releif
Mark