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winchman
07-05-2014, 11:50 PM
http://news.msn.com/us/train-derails-in-western-montana-3-cars-in-river

They were only 737s, though.

This one's not gonna buff out.
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2014/07/Boeing%20fuselage%203.jpg

Paul Alciatore
07-06-2014, 01:36 AM
I wonder if they were insured.

Weston Bye
07-06-2014, 06:46 AM
Insured or not, the bean counting weasels at Boeing and the railroad probably (?) took such events into account when deciding to distribute the manufacturing around the country rather than centralizing.

Stuff happens, and good managers take such things into account.

While spectacular, there is really nothing to see here.

winchman
07-06-2014, 08:28 AM
On the contrary, I'd say the rigging operation to get the fuselages out of the river and back on rail cars is going to be very interesting.

http://worldairlinenews.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/boeing-737-fuselages-in-river.jpg?w=620

Might even be better than watching someone getting a big lathe out of a basement shop. :)

J Tiers
07-06-2014, 08:59 AM
What might be more interesting is figuring out whether any are repairable. And what it takes to make them "just as good as new", since they presumably WERE new.

Rigging them out may not be so bad.... they are pretty light for their bulk (they are part of something that FLIES, after all). A heavy lift helicopter might do it, depending on what is installed already. They will have lift points on them.

Old Hat
07-06-2014, 09:10 AM
On the contrary, I'd say the rigging operation to get the fuselages out of the river and back on rail cars is going to be very interesting.

http://worldairlinenews.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/boeing-737-fuselages-in-river.jpg?w=620

Might even be better than watching someone getting a big lathe out of a basement shop. :)

Now that's damn Funny!

Guido
07-06-2014, 09:12 AM
Aluminum scavengers will have those things gone, if not protected.

--G

CarlByrns
07-06-2014, 09:19 AM
I read an article in TRAINS magazine about how Boeing subs the fuselage construction out and moves them by rail to final assembly by rail- it's a pretty slick operation (most of the time). Boeing builds a lot of 737s- this isn't the end of the world.

As for cleanup- most railroads employ outside contractors to clean up a wreck site. The contractors work fast- this site will be back to normal in a few days.

I doubt any effort will be made to save the fuselages on the ground.

Willy
07-06-2014, 09:42 AM
It won't take them long to clean this one up. These things are relatively light after all, nothing like trying to unload/lift, tank cars loaded with chemicals out of the river.
At a production rate of 42 per month this will barley cause a ripple in Seattle's 737 production.

Lots of pics in the link below of 737 fuselage transport and production.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2572445/Planes-train-Boeing-737-fuselages-arrive-firms-huge-Seattle-factory-assembled-2-000-mile-rail-journey-Kansas.html

Abner
07-06-2014, 09:58 AM
Add some more water and you could have submarines. Make a great tourist attraction along some tropical reef with all those windows.

Sun God
07-06-2014, 10:30 AM
An empty, complete 737 typically weighs less than 35 tons - I doubt these fuselages will present much of a challenge; probably lift them with a come-along with a big ego ;)

gcude
07-06-2014, 10:43 AM
Those three at the rivers edge appear to still be on some kind of skids and do not appear to have rolled over. I wonder just how much damage if any was done to them. They look like they just took a slide down the slope.

KiddZimaHater
07-06-2014, 11:31 AM
They're probably already written off as scrap, total loss.
Cut 'em up, and helicopter them outta there.

krutch
07-06-2014, 04:27 PM
Won't it be nice to know the plane you are flying at 30,000+ ft. has been in the drink?
Wonder how the passengers felt on the plane headed for Australia that started pouring water from the overhead about an hour out just this week?

darryl
07-06-2014, 04:42 PM
Hmm- would you even want to know if you've been flying in one that's been hauled out of a river and refurbished? But I have a better idea- a couple times now I've considered the idea of converting one to be living quarters. Kind of like the converted school bus, but an airplane fuselage instead.

Drill a big hole in a mountain side and jam the back end into it. Guess you only have one entry/exit then, but hey- it's basically fireproof! Or not-

topct
07-06-2014, 05:33 PM
I wonder how they will say the last line on the paperwork for those pieces.

Mr Fixit
07-06-2014, 05:53 PM
Ok here is a link to a guy that DOES LIVE IN AN AIRPLANE In Oregon Just out of town in my brothers neighborhood.

Mr fixit for the family
Chris :)




http://inhabitat.com/oregon-man-lives-inside-727-airplane-home-in-the-middle-of-the-woods/bruce-campbell-727-house-2/

mike4
07-06-2014, 08:07 PM
With all the paranoia regarding safety , its a wonder that the Rail company and Boeing are not ordered to physically cut them up for scrap , none allowed to ever fly.

Michael

saltmine
07-06-2014, 08:51 PM
I hope they get them out of there soon....Otherwise, they will be full of transients and illegal immigrants.

Yow Ling
07-07-2014, 05:24 AM
Artfull , better put your name down for a couple for the museum

I guess they could probably get a couple out of the parts

bob ward
07-07-2014, 06:11 AM
This is what you do with those fuselages.

http://vimeo.com/77636803

A 5 minute film about Werner Kroll in Australia who has made a DC3 into a campervan, complete with a pianola.
(Clip is one of those slow loading HD things)

DR
07-07-2014, 02:52 PM
This morning's news said each of them in the water will require about a day to salvage. Various cranes and a crew of fifty workers.

CCWKen
07-07-2014, 07:39 PM
That's going to play heck with the completion schedule for some company. I wonder if Boeing will slide the schedule on other orders and move the replacements up? Even if covered by insurance, it takes time to replace those.

Tilaran
07-08-2014, 08:57 AM
I hope they get them out of there soon....Otherwise, they will be full of transients and illegal immigrants.
HEY NOW.:mad: Them B' "undocumented".......allegedly.:rolleyes:
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