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wayne101
04-14-2015, 03:53 PM
Hi Guys, I'm looking for a Programmed Handheld Rotary Table Controller.
I want to purchase a 8in Rotary Table from Smithy, they have a Rotary Table that is hooked up to a stepper motor.
I have talked to someone at Smithy and they would like to find a handheld
controller to go with their Rotary Table also.
I have tried to contact Division Master in the UK but maybe they are out of business as can't get in touch with them.
I've been in touch with the designer of the Sherline handheld Controller,
but I guess he can't help me as Sherline apparenty owns the rights of the
controller.
John Stevenson if you are reading this please step in, and respond as i
know you have a Division Master and are very knowledgeable about what
I am after.
I am also aware of Steve Ward, who sells a Kit to build a handheld controller.
Unfortunately, I do not have the knowledge to build such a kit.
If anyone reads this and knows anything about getting a handheld controller,
please let me know.
Wayne

studentjim
04-14-2015, 05:37 PM
wayne101, the handheld controller from Steve Ward is very easy to put together. He sells the controller with the pc board populated so all that is required is to connect a driver and power supply to the stepper motor. All instructions come with the kit.

John Stevenson
04-14-2015, 07:29 PM
Wayne,
Tony Jeffree who did the division master sold out to Lester Caine who still does them.

http://medw.co.uk/wiki/DivisionMaster Not the best site to navigate but about 200 UKP for a finished unit, kits are less but you say you don't want kits.

Steve Wards unit is also good but is a kit although as Studentjim says he builds and sells the modules and connecting up isn't hard. Even I can do it.

These are all the components needed, in fact there is more as I use a 3 pin XLR for power in and a DB9 to power larger tables with remote drivers.

http://www.stevenson-engineers.co.uk/files/Ward%20stepmaster2.jpg

Main module on the right, keypad in middle, generic box and plugs with a cheap Chines single axis driver propped up in the box.

Finished job with the case laser cut and a laminated overlay stuck on with double sided tape.
Works a treat.

http://www.stevenson-engineers.co.uk/files/ward%20controller6.jpg

There are also a few guys doing the same with Arduino's but so far most of these are a work in progress and not for the unwashed.

PStechPaul
04-14-2015, 09:25 PM
You might be able to use the Arduino project to drive the stepper motor, and add a Bluetooth module. Then your handheld controller could be a device such as an iPhone or Winbook or Android tablet, running a terminal program. A dedicated program/app might be nicer, and could always be added later. Here are some terminals that might work:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-Technologies-80-Handheld-ANSI-VT-100-RS-232-Terminal-8045EKR2-1-45-Key-NEW-/231530680290 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-Technologies-80-Handheld-ANSI-VT-100-RS-232-Terminal-8045EKR2-1-45-Key-NEW-/231530680290?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35e84dcfe2)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TELXON-PTC-610-BARCODE-SCANNER-HANDHELD-TERMINAL-/251907393911 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/TELXON-PTC-610-BARCODE-SCANNER-HANDHELD-TERMINAL-/251907393911?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aa6d9c977)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-Symbol-MC35-C-O-E-Handheld-Terminal-MC3504-PQCDJQHA7WR-/231512582198 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-Symbol-MC35-C-O-E-Handheld-Terminal-MC3504-PQCDJQHA7WR-/231512582198?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35e739a836)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Allen-Bradley-1747-PT1-Hand-Held-Terminal-/400876422404 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Allen-Bradley-1747-PT1-Hand-Held-Terminal-/400876422404?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d5618c504)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gould-MA-P964-000-Handheld-Digital-Display-Data-Access-Panel-Terminal-Keypad-/151650089825 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gould-MA-P964-000-Handheld-Digital-Display-Data-Access-Panel-Terminal-Keypad-/151650089825?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item234f0cbb61)

I have worked with one of the following terminals. They are probably pricey, but they are very flexible, with programmable keys and display. Maybe you can find one used or surplus:
http://beijerinc.com/product/industrial/character-terminals.php

Maybe take a chance on this lot. Probably a good deal just for the keypads, displays, and enclosures:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/E8A5-Lot-of-5-QSI-G55-Qterm-G55-Mobile-Data-Terminal-UNTESTED-/201327475809 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/E8A5-Lot-of-5-QSI-G55-Qterm-G55-Mobile-Data-Terminal-UNTESTED-/201327475809?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ee00d7c61)

Or this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/QTERM-II-HAND-HELD-OPERATOR-CONTROL-PENDANT-MODEL-T1131-NEW-/400763181041

cjd774
04-14-2015, 11:05 PM
PM sent

oldtiffie
04-15-2015, 02:29 AM
I have a DivisionMaster driving a 6" "Vertex" rotary table.

I have never regretted buying it as it does all it says it will and all that I want it to do.

The Controller is hand-held as the OP requires.

It has many features and a bit of creative thinking will really make it very classy accessory.

It is very accurate and as rugged as I need (probably more so).

Black Forest
04-15-2015, 06:33 AM
Wayne,
Tony Jeffree who did the division master sold out to Lester Caine who still does them.

http://medw.co.uk/wiki/DivisionMaster Not the best site to navigate but about 200 UKP for a finished unit, kits are less but you say you don't want kits.

Steve Wards unit is also good but is a kit although as Studentjim says he builds and sells the modules and connecting up isn't hard. Even I can do it.

These are all the components needed, in fact there is more as I use a 3 pin XLR for power in and a DB9 to power larger tables with remote drivers.

http://www.stevenson-engineers.co.uk/files/Ward%20stepmaster2.jpg

Main module on the right, keypad in middle, generic box and plugs with a cheap Chines single axis driver propped up in the box.

Finished job with the case laser cut and a laminated overlay stuck on with double sided tape.
Works a treat.

http://www.stevenson-engineers.co.uk/files/ward%20controller6.jpg

There are also a few guys doing the same with Arduino's but so far most of these are a work in progress and not for the unwashed.

Hi John, Will you send that controller to me please? I need one for a table. My birthday was on the 12th April so it can be a late present. Danke!

JMS6449
04-15-2015, 08:21 AM
Buy the built/programmed board and keypad from Steve Ward. I am using (2) one on a rotary table or dividing head and the other on a special drilling fixture. A lot of value for
the money.

wayne101
04-16-2015, 07:29 PM
Thank you to everyone who responded. I have ordered the Unit from World of Ward

DR
04-17-2015, 12:36 PM
Thank you to everyone who responded. I have ordered the Unit from World of Ward

I hope you'll let us know how the Ward unit works out, both assembly and operation.

I'm interested in one too and have no interest in a learning experience. I just want something that works with minimal "assembly required".

John Stevenson
04-17-2015, 01:36 PM
DR, that's it in my post #3.

The two modules centre and right come finished, one plugs into the other. You then feed it 18v - 24 volts, a laptop power supply is perfect.
You then take 3 wires, 5V, step, and direction off the ward board [ clearly marked on screw connectors ] to the Chinese stepper driver, this also needs the same 18 - 24 volts.
Then 4 wires from the driver to the stepper plug or motor and that's it.

At this stage it will work but does need fitting into a box.

wayne101
04-17-2015, 05:48 PM
Hi in reply to my post , Calvin at DGFTech (HSM member CJD 774)is going to build this World of Ward Controller for me , his company programs , designs, and builds electronic components.My Thanks to him also.
wayne