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winchman
06-16-2004, 09:43 AM
Will it damage the spindle bearings on my Jet 1024P lathe if I lift it with a 6'-long 1" diameter steel rod through the spindle hole? The other end of the lathe will be supported by a chain under the lathe bed and around the bar. I'll remove the motor and mount before the lift.

I'm planning on lifting the lathe up just enough to slide the stand from under it, and then lower it with blocks and jacks onto a dolly.

Roger

Rustybolt
06-16-2004, 10:05 AM
Not a good Idea. I don't know if it will damage the bearings but it might ruin the spindle. It isn't recomended to lift any machine by its precision surfaces.
If there is any overhand of the bed at either end, that would be a good place to sling it.

Paul Gauthier
06-16-2004, 10:28 AM
As Rusty said, bad idea. Try searching the archives there was a thread with pics a while back about lifting a lathe . It requires a simple lifting device that is placed beneath the ways with an eyebolt attached, then connect your strap and lift a little, if not level adjust closer to or away from the spindle.



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Paul G.

jfsmith
06-16-2004, 10:36 AM
My jet 13 x 40 came with a lift device that is an eye bolt that threads thru the rails to attached to a plate. Contact your dealer and see if they have one you can use.

Jerry

SGW
06-16-2004, 11:02 AM
What the others said -- don't lift by the lathe spindle!
Put a crossbar of some kind under the lathe bed, attach your lifting strap to that, and lift up through the bed.

wierdscience
06-16-2004, 07:50 PM
Sling between the bed casting cross members with a rod or length of pipe like mentioned above,you can also use a small sling or rope tied to a eyebolt in the chuck and to the lifting hook,NOT for lifting,but as a safty incase the lathe should decide to roll over in the slings.

Also you can position the carrage and tailstock to the far end of the bed to shift the center of gravity for balance.If your carrying the late on an open trailer or truck,tie the tailstock off to the carrage or chuck,I have seen where even if they are locked they will sometimes fall off,and even get lost.

Dave Opincarne
06-16-2004, 08:39 PM
As others have said a lift bolt under the bed. I imagine a 10x24 Jet is about the same size as my EMCO V10. I used a 1/2" eybolt with the eye welded closed and ran it through a 3x3 piece of white oak. The wood gives a little cushon and grab. As WS said you can use the tailstock and compound to adjust balance. I also used two straps going to opposite corners to stabilize the lathe and keep it from rolling.

Dave

SJorgensen
06-16-2004, 10:19 PM
I think the addition of the pipe idea was a pretty good one. when you lift by the lathe bed, the headstock makes it somewhat top-heavy. So when you strap it up you should lift from the bed but do it in a way to keep it from flipping over. I think my SB9 was tipping badly when I moved it last but its been a while.

sandman2234
06-17-2004, 12:48 AM
I didn't have any help, so I just grabbed my Southbend by both ends and carried it to the truck. I was ready to set it down by the time I got to the tailgate. Found me some help when I got to the house with it.
David from jax

winchman
06-17-2004, 02:49 AM
Thanks for all the info.

It looks like I won't have to deal with it. The mover rep came and looked at it. He said they can handle it safely on the cabinet with no problems. All I have to do is take the motor off so it will fit through the door.

The shop tools only add $150 to the cost of the move. That's a bargain in my book. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif
My wife feels the same way about the $1000 they want for packing everything. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//frown.gif

Roger

Paul Alciatore
06-17-2004, 10:23 PM
I'm not familiar with that model but I would recommend that it not be lifted with metal pipes. Metal on metal can slide. This could cause the load to shift and become unstable. Also, pipe is not a structural product. It is intended to hold pressure within, not withstand being bent. Again if the pipe were to bend under the load, the load could shift and become unstable (DROP).

I am assuming that there are no built in lifting eyes. I would buy or rent a harness that is rated for the load. It should have web or wire mesh straps to prevent slipping. Two such straps should be used with a proper spacer or lifting beam to insure they stay at the ends of the bed where they should be placed. One should be long enough to go under the head and still come together at the top without a sharp angle where they meet. A properly rated engine hoist should be able to do the lift. You may have to use blocks to support it half way down to readjust the rigging. Or perhaps not.

Of course, my first choice would be to disassemble it into smaller loads. My SB9 easily comes apart into assemblies that can be carried by one man. And reassembly is easy also. No alignment problems.

Safety first.

Paul A.

SJorgensen
06-17-2004, 11:10 PM
The way I saw the use of the pipe was just to keep the lathe bed lined up with the sling so it wouldn't flip over. I wouldn't bother disassembly for just a move because these aren't that hard to move if you sling it right.

Locksmith
06-24-2004, 09:37 PM
Six friends, lot's of beer and pizza, but give them this AFTER it's moved.
Note : Some might not be friends anymore if it's heavy.

sandman2234
06-24-2004, 10:50 PM
No wonder nobody comes over anymore, since i brought that #4 Warner & Swassey home...
David from jax

suprdvn
06-25-2004, 09:17 AM
Junk your lathe and buy one like this http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
http://img53.photobucket.com/albums/v163/suprdvn/img14.gif
You could weld a trailer hitch to the handle and hook it up to your car. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

Super Dave

wierdscience
06-25-2004, 09:40 AM
Ya,but I bet those wheels might spark a little around 70 http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

tonydacrow
06-25-2004, 11:59 AM
I want one! No! Make that two!

winchman
06-25-2004, 01:23 PM
OOOOOhh!! The Lathe on Wheels makes a NICE desktop background. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

Thanks for posting it, Dave.

Roger

Alistair Hosie
06-25-2004, 06:33 PM
That's not a lathe boys that's John Stevenson's pram/stroller from when he was a baby his mother used to take him around in it http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

[This message has been edited by Alistair Hosie (edited 06-25-2004).]

Dave Opincarne
06-25-2004, 09:54 PM
You can have it. Well, just the wheels then. Who wants to level a lathe every 3 feet, you'd never get anywhere http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//wink.gif

Dave