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  • Black Forest
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 9010

    Material for band brake

    What material could I use to line a band brake that is used for parking only? The band is around one foot in diameter when mounted. It is 28mm wide. This is for a small tractor.
    Location: The Black Forest in Germany

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  • JCHannum
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2001
    • 10091

    #2
    Flexible brake band material is available from many sources. I recently purchased some from McMaster Carr. McM is not handy in Germany, but there are sure to be similar sources.
    Jim H.

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    • EddyCurr
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 3471

      #3
      How big is your waist?

      A 12" diameter gives a circumference close to 38". By the time some of us removed the
      buckle at one end and the notched portion at the other end of a man's leather waist belt,
      we'd have something suitable in hand for that application of yours.

      .

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      • Black_Moons
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 9096

        #4
        Originally posted by EddyCurr View Post
        How big is your waist?

        A 12" diameter gives a circumference close to 38". By the time some of us removed the
        buckle at one end and the notched portion at the other end of a man's leather waist belt,
        we'd have something suitable in hand for that application of yours.
        Hey! My waist resembles that remark! *shakes fist*
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        • radkins
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 2810

          #5
          Originally posted by EddyCurr View Post
          How big is your waist?

          A 12" diameter gives a circumference close to 38". By the time some of us removed the
          buckle at one end and the notched portion at the other end of a man's leather waist belt,
          we'd have something suitable in hand for that application of yours.

          I did that about 15 years ago on a small hydrostatic drive tractor where the brake band served only as a parking brake, over the years it has actually served as a stopping brake many times but then from the size of the brake he describes I am sure his tractor is a heck of a lot heavier than mine. Although it might sound like a backwards thing to do when the leather glazed over and was dried out I wiped it in a light oil and diesel mixture to soften it and the darn thing holds better than it did dry!

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          • CCWKen
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2003
            • 8567

            #6
            Ford Model Ts used wood or woven cotton bands in the transmission. (Primary brake drum inside.) The parking brake was metal-to-metal on the rear axle brake drums. Modern replacements now include Kevlar for the transmission bands and friction brake lining for the rear drums. Since it's a parking brake, just about any material could be used. You didn't mention if the lining was riveted or glued to the band.

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            • boslab
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2007
              • 8873

              #7
              Signode steel banding?
              Mark

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              • Black Forest
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 9010

                #8
                Originally posted by boslab View Post
                Signode steel banding?
                Mark
                Hey Mark, that sounds like I would have to go to a sex shop to get some of that material!
                Location: The Black Forest in Germany

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                • HWooldridge
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 931

                  #9
                  Leather works well if it is subject to being contaminated with oil or grease. I tried commercial brake liner on a Beaudry power hammer brake and it would slip once any lube got on it. I replaced it with a piece of saddle leather and that solved the problem quite handily since leather will grip even when wet.

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                  • Black Forest
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 9010

                    #10
                    Leather is the easiest for me. I have whole sides of Herman Oak leather and all the tools to work it.

                    Now what steel should I use for the actual bands? One side has only the two ends of the band and the other the band is rusted in half.
                    Location: The Black Forest in Germany

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                    • wierdscience
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 22088

                      #11
                      The bands,I would look at steel banding material or failing that some thin stainless.
                      I just need one more tool,just one!

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                      • EddyCurr
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 3471

                        #12
                        Originally posted by boslab View Post
                        Signode steel banding?
                        Mark
                        Originally posted by wierdscience View Post
                        The bands,I would look at steel banding material or failing that some thin stainless.
                        Also known as pallet strapping.

                        Signode is a significant producer.

                        Comes in a variety of widths and thicknesses. You'll want to visit the
                        loading dock areas of companies that ship objects on pallets secured
                        with banding strap and ask nicely for some lengths.

                        If you get it fresh, there is often perfectly good used strapping being
                        tossed into the scrap bins at sites that receive objects on pallets.

                        .

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                        • boslab
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 8873

                          #13
                          That's the stuff, very handy stuff, I always keep some for odd brackets, exhaust straps, even repaired a band brake on a 1000 ton gantry that was stuck on a ladle cooking the ropes, I did not fancy a rope change, not 108 falls of 2" cable at 2 in the morning
                          It's hard to drill but a Whitney punch goes through nice, I used solid rivets, snap and set too, never thought learning that would be handy
                          Mark

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                          • Illinoyance
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2015
                            • 1033

                            #14
                            You asked about lining so I assume you already have the steel band. I suggest looking for a repair shop that does truck brakes. They probably stock lining material and would be capable of riveting the lining to the band.

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                            • PStechPaul
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 8095

                              #15
                              I found a band brake for a scooter that might work for a small tractor:





                              Not bad for $4.50. It might also work well for a spindle brake on a lathe or milling machine.
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