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flylo
07-04-2016, 04:32 PM
240 years old & still going strong Thanks to our founders who did what no other country did, writing the Constitution & Bill of Rights at great risk & cost to them. Thank You for our Liberties & Freedom!

Normanv
07-04-2016, 05:53 PM
Sorry Flylo but the good ol' US is not that good. Here in UK we have our freedom and we don't go around shooting each other!

SpoonerandForker
07-04-2016, 06:04 PM
YES! Thank all the founders for a far sighted Constitution.

A birthday worthy of celebration, but I will be happier when mail service resumes and my ordered bar stock is delivered to my door so I can get started on the Brian Rupnow Vertical Engine.

(Noobs have no pile of remainder stock to fall back on, but that will soon change for the better.)

John Stevenson
07-04-2016, 06:14 PM
Aahh it's Indifference Day then ?

PStechPaul
07-04-2016, 06:46 PM
Perhaps surprising how many Americans know next to nothing about why we celebrate the 4th of July:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyhCOPh48ew (last year)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Be9f7Ovgg

boslab
07-04-2016, 07:14 PM
Half the signatories were of Welsh origin, I was suprised at that I must say,
Happy birthday
Mark

Doc Nickel
07-04-2016, 08:08 PM
Sorry Flylo but the good ol' US is not that good. Here in UK we have our freedom and we don't go around shooting each other!

-We may not be perfect, certainly, but over here, we're Citizens, not subjects. :D

Doc.

flylo
07-04-2016, 08:09 PM
Wasn't alot of Wales inhabited by the Celts, like the Irish & Scots? So they have to be good!:o

brian Rupnow
07-04-2016, 08:10 PM
Happy birthday to our big neighbour.

flylo
07-04-2016, 08:19 PM
Sorry Flylo but the good ol' US is not that good. Here in UK we have our freedom and we don't go around shooting each other!

You're much better with knives than us since they took your guns away. Don't forget who won the war:p.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jun/24/blog-posting/social-media-post-says-uk-has-far-higher-violent-c/

justanengineer
07-05-2016, 12:24 AM
You're much better with knives than us since they took your guns away. Don't forget who won the war.

Darn, you beat me to it. FWIW, you might have to clarify that second comment a bit bc there were two wars where we kicked their ass and a few others where we saved it. :p

I'm actually living on the site of a very important battle in the War of 1812, makes shooting fireworks over the harbor a bit surreal at times.

Back on-topic tho, despite our many troubles - here's to 240 more!

dave_r
07-05-2016, 12:35 AM
Happy birthday to our big neighbour.

Happy birthday to our small neighbour.

They are WAY smaller than we are. Probably why they go around swinging a big stick everywhere...

_Paul_
07-05-2016, 02:08 AM
Despite being from the UK I still celebrate the 4th July.... it's the date I retired :)

dp
07-05-2016, 02:33 AM
Sorry Flylo but the good ol' US is not that good. Here in UK we have our freedom and we don't go around shooting each other!

Mmmhmmm. https://www.theguardian.com/world/gun-crime+uk/uk

malbenbut
07-05-2016, 03:47 AM
It was more like a civil war Brits fighting Brits except for some Frenchman riding away from the action shouting "the Brits Are coming". Many of the British soldiers deserted after the fighting ended and stayed in the soon to be USA.Most of the signees of the declaration of independence were of British decent.
George Washington's family ancestral home is fifteen miles from my home.

MBB

Mike Amick
07-05-2016, 05:23 AM
You're much better with knives than us since they took your guns away. Don't forget who won the war:p.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jun/24/blog-posting/social-media-post-says-uk-has-far-higher-violent-c/


Ummm .. you do know if you actually read the linked article that it discredits the "NUMBERS" shown.

flylo
07-05-2016, 06:35 AM
Yes I do know, but it does show we BOTH have our problems with crime & I thought it was a fair article.

Fasttrack
07-05-2016, 10:30 AM
-We may not be perfect, certainly, but over here, we're Citizens, not subjects. :D

Doc.

:) And we don't allow personal servants in the military. I was surprised recently to learn that most countries (UK, France, Germany, Russia, Italy, India, etc.) still assign personal servants to officers but here in the US, the DoD decided that wasn't fair:

"No officer may use an enlisted member as a servant for duties that contribute only to the officer's personal benefit and that have no reasonable connection with the officer's official responsibilities"

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/131509p.pdf

Of course, we still have orderlies, drivers, etc. but not "personal servants"... it's all the in a name, eh?

Anyway, the USA is far from perfect but it's home and it just had a birthday, so I celebrated. :)

Mcgyver
07-05-2016, 01:12 PM
bc there were two wars where we kicked their ass and a few others where we saved it.

We? You were there?

I hope all our US friends enjoyed the long weekend and had lots of fun with family and friends :)

MaxHeadRoom
07-05-2016, 02:20 PM
Moved.

flylo
07-05-2016, 03:28 PM
Max, it was noted & celebrated http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/threads/70900-Happy-Canada-Day!

MaxHeadRoom
07-05-2016, 03:40 PM
Didn't see it, evidently the forum won't allow me to delete it and move it??
Max.

justanengineer
07-05-2016, 06:47 PM
Of course, we still have orderlies, drivers, etc. but not "personal servants"... it's all the in a name, eh?


One of the temporary duties I had as a private was to be the secretary and driver to several officers at various times. It might sound like mere semantics, but IME I wouldnt have considered myself a servant by any means. Yes, there was plenty of bs go'fer work - deliver paperwork, escort visiting senior officers, etc, but nothing I'd really consider a servant's work. I never interacted with the officers' families other than in passing, dont recall ever visiting their homes, rarely fetched food/beverages unless I was already going to a restaurant/store for myself, and only drove for them in the field, I guess for me its the difference between a 9-5 office secretary and one of those personal assistants the wealthy have who practically live with them. I have no first-hand experience, but I could believe that other militaries' "servants" are more of the later.


We? You were there?


:p Semantics, you understood me. Something I'm rather proud of - every generation of my direct paternal ancestors has had at least one member serve in the military and my family's been represented in every war the US has fought in starting with the Revolution. My seven years on active duty and service in Iraq continued the tradition.

flylo
07-05-2016, 08:13 PM
One of the few regrets I have is not joining the Marine Corps. I remember having to fill out a 50 question quiz to even talk to them & it's when the guaranteed field but not job started in the military. They were going to pay me a $5,000 or $15,000 bonus to join the infantry, which suited me fine as I liked outdoors, guns, camping, etc. I insisted on going to Paris Island for basic & they agreed but I was 17 & was going in after high school but my dad would not sign unless I went to San Diego & no offense but I didn't want to be a Hollywood Marine. By the time I hit 18 I had a fast car, girl & making money. I think if I'd have went in I very well may have made it a career.

mudnducs
07-06-2016, 01:09 AM
240 years old & still going strong Thanks to our founders who did what no other country did, writing the Constitution & Bill of Rights at great risk & cost to them. Thank You for our Liberties & Freedom!

Well said. We left a totalitarian state in the dust...the most powerful nation on the face of the earth at that time. Left them blooodied and whining and went on to build the single most successful nation oin the history of humanity. Now if we can just keep our eye on the ball and return to our founding roots...things will be good.

fastfire
07-06-2016, 02:04 AM
Perhaps surprising how many Americans know next to nothing about why we celebrate the 4th of July:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyhCOPh48ew (last year)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Be9f7Ovgg

AND THEY VOTE.........That's why we are going down hill now.

Mcgyver
07-06-2016, 08:57 AM
:p Semantics, you understood me. Something I'm rather proud of - every generation of my direct paternal ancestors has had at least one member serve in the military and my family's been represented in every war the US has fought in starting with the Revolution. My seven years on active duty and service in Iraq continued the tradition.

its not just semantics. Its like sports fans claiming we won, we won...no, they watched. The world, imo, would be a better place if people restricted their pride to their own deeds and accomplishments. That way, we'd all be less easily manipulated.

hephaestus
07-06-2016, 09:54 AM
This thread would have already been
locked and or deleted on garage journal,
I think the owner must be a liberal.

We may not see another 4th of july or
our guns if Hillary is elected.

mudnducs
07-06-2016, 10:02 AM
This thread would have already been
locked and or deleted on garage journal,
I think the owner must be a liberal.

We may not see another 4th of july or
our guns if Hillary is elected.


Agreed. She is apparently above the law.

George Bulliss
07-06-2016, 10:15 AM
I think the owner must be a liberal.



Or maybe just on vacation...