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Dorn
07-22-2016, 08:11 PM
What type(s?) of drill press cam lock hold downs or drill press table quick acting vices do you like?

What suppliers carry your favorites?

Dorn

CalM
07-22-2016, 09:18 PM
I have one of these and like it OK for small work. It easily keeps a small vise from lifting.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/barrymilton/CamClampSide.jpg

And have one like this that gets quite a bit of use.
http://www.homemadetools.net/uploads/76854/drill-press-vise-2.jpeg

sandiapaul
07-22-2016, 09:45 PM
CalM,
Do you have good sources for both of those?

Paul

ken
07-22-2016, 10:12 PM
the first one is no longer made. 2nd one is still made http://www.penntoolco.com/wahlstrom-float-lock-drill-press-vise/

garyhlucas
07-22-2016, 10:21 PM
Made one from a Visegrip C clamp with one leg cut off. Then welded a bolt to it to hold it down to the table. A tab welded on behind the bolt keeps it standing up. We use it a lot.

10KPete
07-22-2016, 10:24 PM
"The first one is no longer made." :mad: Darn! I first used one like that back around '79 and just loved it. I haven't seen
one since and have been wanting to put something similar on my smaller drill presses.

I thought I was going to have to re-invent it and make 'em. I guess that is what I'll have to do.

The second type works but takes up too much table real estate for me.

Pete

CalM
07-22-2016, 10:26 PM
CalM,
Do you have good sources for both of those?

Paul

Nope.

Mine both have been in service to me for over 30 years. Having them, there is no need to look for replacements. They are both very durable.

As I remember, the first unit was inexpensive, and the second quite dear. I was making good money in the shop at the time, and the cost just vanished in the books.

J Tiers
07-22-2016, 10:52 PM
I just bolted down an X-Y table on top of the DP table. Quick action vise on it, easily moved to index anything under the drill.

Having the X-Y is super.......

Joel
07-22-2016, 10:54 PM
I have one of the vise grip hold downs, but set up to use a T-nut. Similar to this:
http://www.harborfreight.com/9-inch-drill-press-locking-clamp-36221.html
(https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00004SBBC/ref=nosim/httpstrateama-20)
I like it, but unless I am doing something that requires the vise, I usually just use the 2 round 'buttons' I keep snugged down on the table. They are essentially thick washers about 1.5" dia and .5" thick, round and bolted to T-nuts. If I am truly worried about the work piece rotating, or if I need several holes in a row on center or at a consistent edge distance, I adjust them so the part fits between them, locating one on either side of the work (near the edge of the table, or end of the part, if shorter).
Normally though, I just butt the work against one of them and it prevents the rotating just fine. Very fast and simple, plus it keeps the table fairly clear for other work. The same bolts and nuts can be used on the vise, but more often than not, I just butt the vise against them too. I can take a picture if i wasn't clear enough and anyone cares.

mogli
07-23-2016, 03:52 AM
I like universal tools drill press, have you tried this?

boslab
07-23-2016, 07:00 AM
I've used loads of these over the years on jigs etc, have a little bucket of assorted push and swing, cheap and cheerful also dam nearly indestructible
http://www.brauerclampsusa.com/php/clampindex.php
Mark

SpoonerandForker
07-23-2016, 07:14 AM
I've used loads of these over the years on jigs etc, have a little bucket of assorted push and swing, cheap and cheerful also dam nearly indestructible
http://www.brauerclampsusa.com/php/clampindex.php
Mark

Yes, Destaco clamps are similar. Fast easy and not expensive, sometimes find at garage sales/flea market.
http://www.destaco.com/clamps.html

Also welders vicegrips work nicely...

Dorn
07-23-2016, 07:56 AM
I have one of these and like it OK for small work. It easily keeps a small vise from lifting.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/barrymilton/CamClampSide.jpg

And have one like this that gets quite a bit of use.
http://www.homemadetools.net/uploads/76854/drill-press-vise-2.jpeg

Yes, the first one of those pictures is what I was thinking of. I liked that it could be swung completely out of the way. I'll probably have to go with one of the vise-grip style items on Amazon like this one:
https://www.amazon.com/Grizzly-G8079-Release-Length-10-Inch/dp/B0000DD6YH/

Rosco-P
07-23-2016, 08:50 AM
Yes, the first one of those pictures is what I was thinking of. I liked that it could be swung completely out of the way. I'll probably have to go with one of the vise-grip style items on Amazon like this one:
https://www.amazon.com/Grizzly-G8079-Release-Length-10-Inch/dp/B0000DD6YH/

They are basically crap, not worth the $20+. If you have a large T-slot table it coul;d be workable, but on most smaller DPs, you'll have trouble getting the clamp where you need it and where the body of the clamp isn't in the way. A toe clamp or two, an assortment of spacers made from scrap, nuts, studs and a ratcheting box wrench will be more versatile and quicker

BCRider
07-23-2016, 12:18 PM
I've got one of those vise grip clamps. And for some things it works just fine. Like flat bar or sheet metal where I'm worried about the drill bit catching and lifting the work. But Rosco is partly right. It's not as useless as he suggests but it does take up a lot of room. So it doesn't work well along with a vise.

In the end I don't think there's any one single product to use which can do it all. I've got that vise grip style clamp and have made up special size T nuts that I also use a lot to hold down the vise. Not what I'd call "fast action" but the T-nut and a bolt don't take up a lot of table space so the vise can sit where it needs to sit instead of off to one side so there's room for a clamp.

Those toggle action clamps shown earlier are amazing things on a jig for production use. But not so amazing if you want to use them for general work or vise holding where the screw foot needs regular re-adjusting and on small parts where the finger of the clamp can often be in the way.

One easy to use style of hold down clamp I'd like to buy or make a few of this style in a couple of sizes. These are relatively fast to use and don't intrude on the working area very much. It's not something I'd use for production work jigs but for fairly fast and easy use on a drill press these clamps in the right size would be nice.

http://charleswaugh.com/bench/2015-12-24%2009.39.42.jpg

crrmeyer
07-23-2016, 01:32 PM
What type(s?) of drill press cam lock hold downs or drill press table quick acting vices do you like?

What suppliers carry your favorites?

Dorn


I like the Welch cam-lock drill press clamp. Not the designed by Northrop note on the box. You can still on rare occasion fine new one like the one shown in the photo.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--JR_2ELwfP0/V5Omt0M5kSI/AAAAAAAABp4/lzR1cxm3vHcDpvFGMoqLw9k2hZjeCs21gCCo/s576/P1040686.JPG
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZaZssD37heE/V5Omt2ksN0I/AAAAAAAABp8/BkM6q2PjUnYA9Ze2fCkTy0BS9aTpFYzBACCo/s640/P1040688.JPG
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Wu3SvCniCgU/V5OmuPHvRSI/AAAAAAAABqM/XV0M-uDl4_kEUheLA6H3dKhA1Or29KPJQCCo/s640/P1040689.JPG

crrmeyer
07-23-2016, 01:32 PM
What type(s?) of drill press cam lock hold downs or drill press table quick acting vices do you like?

What suppliers carry your favorites?

Dorn


The Sta-Put is also an usual drill press clamp. The knob that controls the clamping action also allows the fork to move radially over about 1" of travel so you can fine-tune the point of clamping. These ones are not very common.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lV0MjNl9Oy4/V5OmuOtQ1YI/AAAAAAAABqM/XC53JpMs_KsHJroMu7j5jH9nA11F88CtQCCo/s640/P1040690.JPG
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-N2Ky4wpk0y4/V5OmuIGersI/AAAAAAAABqM/fT73V1_Y1IEwroXSJv9gXdgWt9um49ZngCCo/s640/P1040692.JPG

When I was 15 years old, I made my own., It is still my favorite.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CeGxtDRVmeY/V5OpUqsYxDI/AAAAAAAABqY/vPx6-JK-rYgsC49QtyG4b2K9HG6PvA7SgCCo/s639/drill%2Bpress%2Bclamp.jpg

Mr Fixit
07-23-2016, 01:45 PM
Hey Dorn,
Harbor Freight has the vise grips for $8.99 and the lever clamps for $5.99, worth trying. Also they have 20% discount coupons all the time. I have the vise grips and i leave them in the drill press table all the time because I use them too hold my vise down or individual items. My table has X pattern slots and I just push them to the back of the table if I don't need them, which seems to work most of the time. Some of these simple HF tools do work for the home hobbiest, I would not expect them to perform for my job under any surcumstance.

TX
Mr fixit for the family
Chris :)

Tundra Twin Track
07-23-2016, 04:41 PM
This is factory setup on a IDL machine that I converted to drill press.http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag292/tundratwintrack/image.jpg1_zpsw1zavk55.jpg (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/tundratwintrack/media/image.jpg1_zpsw1zavk55.jpg.html)http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag292/tundratwintrack/image.jpg2_zpsa3sa88cs.jpg (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/tundratwintrack/media/image.jpg2_zpsa3sa88cs.jpg.html)