View Full Version : Edgwick Sentinel lathe

07-26-2004, 06:40 AM
Just curious, saw this lathe on ebay & can find no reference to the manufacturer on LathesUk or web search.
Sentinel steam engines were made in Shrewsbury, did they also manufacture machine tools ?




07-26-2004, 08:10 AM
Oh don't worry,a little cleaning and 5 or 6 gallons of green paint and it will be just fine http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

Yet another example of a lathe who's maker made them for six months and then folded.

Oh,no offense,but could someone please tell me where all those Britsh machinetool names come from?Its always something like "Brownswitch and Smitheart Union Major"Or" Stanotchedty & Smathersport Five Finger Discount" or other such over use of the English language http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

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John Stevenson
07-26-2004, 08:37 AM
I used to own one of these Edgwick lathes although mine had no sub contractors name on it, just Edgwick, made by Herberts.

What you have to realise is that at this period in time Herberts were the largest manufacturers of machine tools anywhere in the world.
They got to this position simply by a buying spree.
They bought out whoever they could and if they couldn't buy them out they subcontracted to them.
There are many machines over here all the same but bearing different makers names.

A classic example is the generic range of shapers in the 12" to 24" range.
They can have Herbert, Elliott, Alba, Butler and Invicta cast on them but they are all the same. Many of the manuals have three manufacturers names on them.

The majority of the Herbert range was well made, no frills and capable of a lot of work.
They don't appear on the lathes web site as there are out and out industrial machines and Tony's site is home shop based.

The one I had looked indentical to the one on Ebay. Chucks fit on a registered flange and 3 studs. I paid £200 for this and kept it about 5 years before getting rid for £75 to make room for the current TOS lathe I have.
I will be very, very suprised if this makes the start bid of £500, there are many lathe here better and cheaper then that.

Most makers had double barreled makes if they took over another company, much like Smith and Wesson in the US.
Sometimes the names also reflected to maker and location such as Robey's of Lincoln which in time would get changed to Robey Lincoln.

John S.

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07-26-2004, 10:53 AM
Thank you John, an illuminating & informative reply as usual. My curiosity was prompted by the Sentinel / Shrewsbury connection, I must spend a lazy Sunday morning researching the Sentinel company.

A great many English machine tools were manufactured in the north of England & particularly Yorkshire where Victorian ways & traditions lingered proudly, proper English sounding names like Dean Smith & Grace, Adcock & Shipley, Woodhouse & Mitchell.

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