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Tim Clarke
03-19-2017, 08:10 PM
I didn't want to hijack Brian's also OT thread about the 'coon problem. SO, it would seem that I have a muskrat problem here. They show up in the night, and $chitt everywhere. MaMa's worried about her little boy gobbeling same, and getting, well, sicker that a dog. Arthur is an attack poodle, at about 7 pounds, and getting pretty elderly.

Those closest to me would say, any muskrat sized target would be in the danger zone anywhere inside 400 yards, or maybe even farther. However, there is no safe backdrop here, not to mention the neighbor's likely reports of loud noises commonly associated with high power rifle fire. Other artillery here, while being relatively quiet, might not have the spectacular results of a full blown varmint rifle. In other words the quarry might very well crawl off to die, and decompose with rather odiferous result. Also, not good.

So, given the talented and knowledgeable group here, I'd like to ask for advice, based on experience.

Thanks, TC, also known as the ratshooter

J Tiers
03-19-2017, 08:35 PM
Muskrat normally ar not far from water. You have a pond or lake right nearby?

If not, then your problem is likely a different critter. Possum maybe. They crap all over. Coons will pick a place and crap there repeatedly.

duckman
03-19-2017, 08:41 PM
If you'er a good shot there are some 22 cal. air rifles that are lethal up to about (IIRC) 70 yards, and they are virtually silent so the neighbors aren't bothered.

flylo
03-19-2017, 09:02 PM
Silencers re legal & about to be available over the counter without the $200 tax stamp soon when the HPA hearing protection passes. In many gun unfriendly countries silencers are over the counter hearing protection as it should be. Michigan is legal to own & hunt with silencers & some are under $100 & it's legal to build your own but don't start building till the tax stamp is back or HPA passes. The key is subsonic (below 1100fps) so no sonic crack. A 22 rifle all you hear is the hammer click the firing pin & of course what you hit.

lakeside53
03-19-2017, 09:11 PM
My muskrats have never given an ounce of problem.. and I've been here 28 years living 10 feet from water. They are so short sighted they are fun to mess with, but I let them go their merry way.

Luckily here you cannot fire a gun of any type with 500 feet of a residence (any direction, even your own) so they aren't getting harmed.

Mister ED
03-19-2017, 09:48 PM
Generally the only issues occur when the buggers decide to create bank dens, and then their runs collapse under the weight of mower or foot traffic.

Answer the question on the water, lake, pond, stream, ditch, etc ... and I can give you some trapping suggestions. I do not know the trapping regulations in Oregon, so will leave that part up to you.

Leadfootin
03-20-2017, 12:16 AM
I had a mean old tomcat for that issue but he passed on. However I live at a gravel pit with nearby wetland and LARGE kitty prints. If the bobcats don't get them the occasional cougar will. Of course they have to compete with the the wolves, foxes and coy-wolves!

Abner
03-20-2017, 08:03 AM
I've had one in my pond for about a year. The burrowing is by far the biggest problem. I have found no sign of fecal matter laying about. They eat an amazing amount of cat tail and skunk cabbage so my pond cleaning duties are scaled back to almost zero. I'm finding that the benefits outweighs the problems, my pond has never been clearer since construction. Raccoons leave fecal piles all over the yard, and are attracted to bird seed. I have yet to see muskrat scat. Muskrats are active early AM and late PM, coons are nocturnal. Do you have a game cam?

vpt
03-20-2017, 08:12 AM
I live in the city and air riffle rabbits out the back door all the time. One of those break barrel single pump with power like a .22 and a scope can pick off a bunny half a mile away (maybe not that far but it is accurate for a damn long distance).

JoeLee
03-20-2017, 08:18 AM
I use a .22 LR CB cap to pick off woodchucks in my back yard. They make less noise than an air rifle and will stop a chuck dead in it's tracks at 50 yards if your a good shot, and even if your a bad shot and hit it'll waddle away and croak.

JL...........

Tim Clarke
03-20-2017, 11:11 AM
Well, got a look at one of the culprits this morning, early. They're nutria, I'm pretty sure. My neighbor was mistaken, I think. However in answer to the question of nearby water, yeah, I'm close to the Willamette river. We do have coons and 'possums but they've never been a problem. Most likely because they prefer dining at the neighbors dog dishes.

jmm03
03-20-2017, 11:25 AM
Reminds me of some friends that heard rustling in their kitchen one night and went down to find a mother opossum and several young ones feasting on the cat food. They found their way through the cat door as if they owned the place...

Axkiker
03-20-2017, 04:43 PM
Ive never understood why so many people want to kill things that arent causing any harm. I totally understand if its hunting for food, population control, or damage control. I dont however understand killing just to watch something die.

but thats just me.


On another topic I thought the bill or whatever it was called dealing with silencers was killed. Any truth to that ?

Lew Hartswick
03-20-2017, 05:59 PM
Ive never understood why so many people want to kill things that arent causing any harm. I totally understand if its hunting for food, population control, or damage control. I dont however understand killing just to watch something die.

but thats just me.


On another topic I thought the bill or whatever it was called dealing with silencers was killed. Any truth to that ?
Sure and I bet you don't sway flies or mosquitoes either. CRAP!! Varmints belong in the wild, NOT in the cities or in peoples houses. Once they find the free handouts they are PESTS and the way to get rid of them is death.
...lew...

Axkiker
03-20-2017, 06:14 PM
Sure and I bet you don't sway flies or mosquitoes either. CRAP!! Varmints belong in the wild, NOT in the cities or in peoples houses. Once they find the free handouts they are PESTS and the way to get rid of them is death.
...lew...

Ohhh I totally agree they do not belong in anyones house. As I stated if its damage control such as a coon crapping in your attic I get it. I dont totally agree the best way is death as live traps are cheap. Trap and relocate way out in the country then figure out how they are getting in. Critters just like humans will seek shelter. Doesnt matter if you kill everyone that gets in your house there will always be one to figure out the entrance and you are back to square one.

My comment was more geared for the people who just go out in the back yard and pop off whatever critter for poops and giggles. But thats just me i guess.

fastfire
03-20-2017, 06:20 PM
As said air rifle or if noise isn't going to be a problem, a shotgun

Mister ED
03-20-2017, 06:26 PM
Well, got a look at one of the culprits this morning, early. They're nutria,

I was heading out to check my beaver sets this afternoon and was thinking about this thread and wondering if maybe they were nutria.

I'm no help trapping them, we don't have them here. I know they do plug up beaver traps of friends down south and out west.

Axkiker
03-20-2017, 06:33 PM
I was heading out to check my beaver sets this afternoon and was thinking about this thread and wondering if maybe they were nutria.

I'm no help trapping them, we don't have them here. I know they do plug up beaver traps of friends down south and out west.

Arent nutria only in the south. I know we dont have them in KY either. Or at least that I know of.

Mister ED
03-20-2017, 06:57 PM
Arent nutria only in the south. I know we dont have them in KY either. Or at least that I know of.

Pacific NW has them as well:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/Nutria-NorthAmerica.gif

lakeside53
03-20-2017, 09:08 PM
If you have nutria.. call the county - they will be all over them.

lakeside53
03-20-2017, 09:09 PM
Ohhh I totally agree they do not belong in anyones house. As I stated if its damage control such as a coon crapping in your attic I get it. I dont totally agree the best way is death as live traps are cheap. Trap and relocate way out in the country then figure out how they are getting in. Critters just like humans will seek shelter. Doesnt matter if you kill everyone that gets in your house there will always be one to figure out the entrance and you are back to square one.

My comment was more geared for the people who just go out in the back yard and pop off whatever critter for poops and giggles. But thats just me i guess.

Nope.. me too.

Joel
03-20-2017, 11:42 PM
But thats just me i guess.
Very much my sentiment as well.

Mcostello
03-21-2017, 10:06 PM
I live in the country and don't want people dropping off Their problems to make more problems for Me. 2 years ago trapped 15 coons in 15 days, 1 year ago trapped 12 in 15 days, last year trapped 5 in 15 days, last coon I trapped was the one causing the problems. Problems stopped the day that I got Mom.