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oxford
05-28-2017, 11:59 PM
I just picked up an arbor press tonight, has a PhaseII sticker on the side of it and what I can figure is a 2 ton model. I paid $70 for it so not a huge gloat but I think a fair price. Original paint looks nice and the press plate looks like new.

If I ever get the hydraulic press built that I have the steel laying around for I will most likely mount this hanging off the side but in the mean time I need to mount this somewhere so lets see your stands or benches that you have your arbor press mounted on.

CalM
05-29-2017, 01:15 AM
Mine sits on the work bench

The 25 ton hydraulic press stands on the floor all by it's self.

danlb
05-29-2017, 01:24 AM
If I ever get the hydraulic press built that I have the steel laying around for I will most likely mount this hanging off the side.

Great idea. My 20T press is still in the box, and the 1/2T arbor press is on the floor next to the mill when not in use. Now I have motivation to assemble the press. :)


Dan

Paul Alciatore
05-29-2017, 05:12 AM
My arbor press in on a piece of 2 x 10. I cut a U shaped notch in the front end of it to match the base of the press. And the 2 x 10 extends past the back of the press for about 8" or so to allow me to clamp it to the end of the work bench while the nose hangs out over the front.

I also keep it on the floor when not in use. It is presently under a shelf project that is on top of a couple of saw horses.

I have a "back of the mind", future project in mind for a stand on rollers that has a rotating, three sided center that would hold three tools: my rotary table, a larger milling vise, and a third one that has not been decided. Perhaps the arbor press will go on the third side, but it may bee too tall for that. Details, details, details. I plan to have that three sided center motorized so an imbalance would not make rotation impossible. Way too soon to make any definite decisions on this.

CCWKen
05-29-2017, 11:57 AM
I have a free standing bench (not against a wall) where I have several tools mounted around the perimeter. There's still a little work space that's usually covered in hand tools or parts. :) The tools mounted to the bench include a punch, two vices, arbor press, small drill press and a Dremel drill press. It gets a lot of use so the bench has a prominent spot in the shop.

ncjeeper
05-29-2017, 12:02 PM
Mine sits on the work bench

The 25 ton hydraulic press stands on the floor all by it's self.
Same here. Except my hydraulic press is only 20 tons.

metalmagpie
05-29-2017, 03:23 PM
I don't have pictures, bear with me. I cleaned up a truck brake drum, cut out a circle to match, punched holes to match the lug nut holes, and welded a post to that circle. I put various things on top of that post. I did find this pic:

http://www.nwnative.us/Grant/shop%20articles/24x70/whitneyNo38.jpg

In that pic you can see I have a Whitney shear mounted to the post. You can also see an old Reed vise that I used to mount on that post too. OK. Before I sold it, I had a smallish arbor press which also mounted on the post. Other tools I've mounted up there include a Whitney no. 12 punch and a Ridgid pipe vise. If you want a multi-tool setup that uses minimal floor space this works pretty well.

Anyway, I sold all my little presses when I got this guy awhile back:

http://www.nwnative.us/Grant/images/onBase-1.jpg

It's a Famco 3-1/2C compound ratcheting arbor press. Got it from the latest incarnation of Boeing Surplus, now a purely online entity.

I used the 1-ton and 2-ton arbor presses I used to own on occasion. Maybe twice a year. I use the Famco every single week for something. Just this morning I used it to straighten a 3/4" bar. Last week I used it to flatten some 1.5" pipe. There is one hard limit on any arbor press and that is headroom. The more the better. I recommend at least a number 3 arbor press (Taiwan numbering, not Famco or Dake numbering).

Anyway, you can see the base for my arbor press. It's a rolling lowboy base of my own design.

metalmagpie

oxford
05-29-2017, 07:44 PM
For those that have them mounted to the workbench, are they overhanging so a shaft can pass though? Cutout in bench? You aren't pressing anything that needs to come out of the bottom?

Rich Carlstedt
05-29-2017, 08:27 PM
Try a 4 foot high post made from 3 or 4 inch pipe welded to two 1/2 thick plates .
Mount one to the floor permanently and bolt the top to the 2 ton arbor press.
This gives you the ability to press bearings on long shafts. I use two super heavy Boiler clamps to hold
my press to the top plate because only two holes were available for bolts but have never had to remove them after 20 years even when doing a 44 inch shaft
Rich

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj220/StationarySteam/P5290171_zpscztfgrwc.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/StationarySteam/media/P5290171_zpscztfgrwc.jpg.html)

Mr Fixit
05-30-2017, 12:37 AM
Here is my arbor press and the stand that I made to use it. This arbor press is a CL find for $75.00 and was only used by a guy to press u-joints together. Hope it gives some inspiration for the stand.

http://i.imgur.com/AZX1vAM.jpg

It is on a 1/4" plate base and 1.25" tube legs. The crank wheel is added and I hope to add a toothed ratchet pawl on the handle side so you have better control of the lever arm and is always in front for the best leverage. The DAKE 20 ton at work has this and I'm hoping to copy it in the future.

TX
Mr fixit for the family
Chris :)

CalM
05-30-2017, 01:15 AM
For those that have them mounted to the workbench, are they overhanging so a shaft can pass though? Cutout in bench? You aren't pressing anything that needs to come out of the bottom?

Well, I've NEVER pressed lathe work onto an arbor, and then turned between centers.

There always seems to be a better way.

So the "bench press" pushes bearings and the odd "press fit stud or shaft". It comes in handy for automatic transmission rebuilds.

The frame press serves for anything that needs daylight beneath.
In the event that some bearing was needed to be pressed off a propeller shaft or the like, I think I would just lay the hydro press down on it's side.

Tundra Twin Track
05-30-2017, 01:34 AM
This is the factory stand that came with my Greenerd 3E and shipwheel,I added the accessory rack for holding sockets that attach to the arbor.My 25 ton Dake 6 has no stand.http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag292/tundratwintrack/IMG_0028_zps031244e3.jpg (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/tundratwintrack/media/IMG_0028_zps031244e3.jpg.html)http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag292/tundratwintrack/imagejpg2_zps5012d0a7.jpg (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/tundratwintrack/media/imagejpg2_zps5012d0a7.jpg.html)

J Tiers
05-30-2017, 01:04 PM
Other than the big Dake, I have no idea how you folks get away with little free standing supports . if I did that the thing would flip right over.

I have a little Jet, one ton or so. Stand is on a piece of pipe that goes to floor, but is bolted to the wall also. I can lean on it with a cheater bar and it does not move. Pipe takes the main force, wall bolts take the overturning moment.

Paul Alciatore
05-30-2017, 11:59 PM
Great job of balancing that on those two legs! :eek:




Here is my arbor press and the stand that I made to use it. This arbor press is a CL find for $75.00 and was only used by a guy to press u-joints together. Hope it gives some inspiration for the stand.

http://i.imgur.com/AZX1vAM.jpg

It is on a 1/4" plate base and 1.25" tube legs. The crank wheel is added and I hope to add a toothed ratchet pawl on the handle side so you have better control of the lever arm and is always in front for the best leverage. The DAKE 20 ton at work has this and I'm hoping to copy it in the future.

TX
Mr fixit for the family
Chris :)

Mr Fixit
05-31-2017, 12:24 AM
LOL Paul,

That makes my evening! actually It does have 4 legs just a bad pic from straight on I guess. At least the stand is some what square since the legs line up so well.
J Tiers, I do get good leverage with this setup but I do have to say I have not used a cheater bar or put the press to the MAX test, but ti has served my needs with out incident.
Tundra Twin Track, how do you use the different sockets for that press? I assume it's not for assembling things, so what do they do for you?

TX
Mr fixit for the family
Chris :)

J Tiers
05-31-2017, 12:35 AM
Mr fixit: The downforce on the arm is the ram force divided by the arm length vs pinion pitch radius, which normally is only a matter of 10 to 20 x. So a ton would relate to a hundred or two hundred lb out on the end of the arm. If you can have the arm horizontal, that is the best angle, but even then, the overturning moment is pretty significant. Applied forces may equal or exceed the weight of the press.

I suppose many do not use the presses to anything like their capability.

Tundra Twin Track
05-31-2017, 01:25 AM
LOL Paul,


Tundra Twin Track, how do you use the different sockets for that press? I assume it's not for assembling things, so what do they do for you?

TX
Mr fixit for the family
Chris :)

They are used for pressing seals,bearing,bushing they are machined with square face and smooth bore.They work great.
http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag292/tundratwintrack/image.jpg5_zps91c5ou59.jpg (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/tundratwintrack/media/image.jpg5_zps91c5ou59.jpg.html)http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag292/tundratwintrack/image.jpg7_zpsz2ztsufp.jpg (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/tundratwintrack/media/image.jpg7_zpsz2ztsufp.jpg.html)http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag292/tundratwintrack/image.jpg8_zpsedk56dwy.jpg (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/tundratwintrack/media/image.jpg8_zpsedk56dwy.jpg.html)

vpt
05-31-2017, 08:36 AM
That is a slick idea! Have to remember that one and keep the eyes open for a cheap socket set with some big sockets. Thanks for sharing that one!

metalmagpie
05-31-2017, 09:08 AM
The downforce on the arm is the ram force divided by the arm length vs pinion pitch radius...

Mostly. But not accurate for compound action arbor presses. Some of those add a factor of 2:1 mechanical advantage; some 8:5, et cetera. But definitely more than just your expression of calculated force above. But I like the math ..

metalmagpie

J Tiers
05-31-2017, 10:47 AM
Mostly. But not accurate for compound action arbor presses. Some of those add a factor of 2:1 mechanical advantage; some 8:5, et cetera. But definitely more than just your expression of calculated force above. But I like the math ..

metalmagpie

The extra gearing is more or less the same as a longer lever, without the extra space needed, and without adding lever length vs the base. Added length would offset the lower force against the longer lever, same overturning tendency. Gearing avoids that and reduces tipping.

It's expensive enough that I assumed the gearing would be a larger mechanical advantage increase. Maybe the reduced tipping is the real advantage, not so much the increased possible force.

mattthemuppet
05-31-2017, 03:06 PM
I shouldn't read these threads - I so want an arbor press. It's either the hydraulic press, where I've broken more things than I've fixed (it seems), or the bench vise. I'd love to have an arbor press for the stuff in between where I need more force or space than my bench vise but more feel than i can get with the hydraulic press. I'll have to keep my eyes open on the San Antonio craigslist when we get there :)

lugnut
05-31-2017, 07:31 PM
I don't need a stand for my little press, it just sets on the shelf and collects dust (been doing a little wood working) I can't even remember the last time I used it.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/lugnut/IMG_1664_zpsz1lkvur9.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lugnut/media/IMG_1664_zpsz1lkvur9.jpg.html)

J Tiers
05-31-2017, 08:05 PM
I don't need a stand for my little press, it just sets on the shelf and collects dust (been doing a little wood working) I can't even remember the last time I used it........

Cuz it's too small.........!

lugnut
05-31-2017, 08:16 PM
You'll soon learn, J Tiers, that the less you use your tool. the smaller it gets. ;)

RB211
05-31-2017, 09:55 PM
I have found my 20 ton press to be far more useful than I ever imagined it would be.

Tundra Twin Track
06-01-2017, 02:08 AM
That is a slick idea! Have to remember that one and keep the eyes open for a cheap socket set with some big sockets. Thanks for sharing that one!

I bought 3/4"&1" sockets new when they were at very reduced prices,the 1/2" set I had on hand.The adapter that fits on arbor is 3/4" female to 1" male impact reducer pressed in to holder.I also have punchs mounted on sockets.

vpt
06-01-2017, 08:30 AM
I don't have pictures, bear with me. I cleaned up a truck brake drum, cut out a circle to match, punched holes to match the lug nut holes, and welded a post to that circle. I put various things on top of that post. I did find this pic:

http://www.nwnative.us/Grant/shop%20articles/24x70/whitneyNo38.jpg


My arbor sits on a similar brake drum but flipper around the other way so it can hold dies and metal chunks for the press. Then a C-channel post and on the opposite side of the arbor is a baldor grinder.

Tundra Twin Track
06-02-2017, 12:57 AM
Have had no issues with stability with factory stand that came with Greenerd 3E ,stance is 19" wide 27" deephttp://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag292/tundratwintrack/image_zpsh8gydrmc.jpg (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/tundratwintrack/media/image_zpsh8gydrmc.jpg.html)

oxford
06-02-2017, 05:56 PM
Other than the big Dake, I have no idea how you folks get away with little free standing supports . if I did that the thing would flip right over.

The last place I worked at there was a 5 ton arbor that sat on a fairly decent table. We had 2" ratchet strap going around the back legs of the table and around the vertical I beam for the building support to keep the table from flipping. Handle for the press was around 3' long and routinely had another 3' or so bar on that for some broaching operations.

J Tiers
06-02-2017, 10:37 PM
I've seen where folks bolt the stand to the floor. I thought the makers recommended that in many cases.

plastikosmd
06-03-2017, 09:08 AM
My 400$ Famco 4c(and all the stuff that came with it, maybe I will broach a hole someday)
I'm not sure if the stand is factory but I like the chip bin below the press.
Some tooling
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/famco%204c/A4480422-DB48-4459-B338-02AC4CC924CB_zpslaevzvwb.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/famco%204c/B3BEDC2A-CABB-45E4-B638-012478AC34CD_zpsa1oopbqy.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/famco%204c/1CDFB078-1D7D-45C6-B704-F0325E9D4F9D_zps3kxrlzs7.jpg
Changing a tire last weekend
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/famco%204c/B3C94D76-8AF1-4CA9-B6C6-4339ED0352C1_zpsiuh4e8mf.jpg

plastikosmd
06-03-2017, 09:08 AM
My greenard 3.5 in the fabrication area, 300$ on a factory stand. This one is my favorite size. A good press is as useful as a shop vise imho.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/greenard%203%20and%20half/E70D59FE-03F7-4467-82F3-09F5A78D5139_zpsfkkl1xjt.jpg

Greenard 1 on my reloading bench, fleamarket find

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/greenard%201/5CBDC41E-AE14-42B5-9931-C4E659969CDD_zpsw7j1t9hf.jpg