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PStechPaul
08-03-2017, 10:29 PM
I bought the following security videocam, and finally got it working:

https://us.banggood.com/Wholesale-Warehouse-P2P-HD-IP-CCTV-Wifi-Wireless-High-Definition-Surveillance-Camera-Waterproof-wp-Usa-1095692.html

https://img.banggood.com/thumb/grid/oaupload/banggood/images/25/AA/f6eda5fe-044e-4a51-a692-ca0ab50c8b30.jpg

It seems to be pretty well made, but the user manual is minimal, even the PDF version on-line. The Windows GUI and user manual can be downloaded from http://yyp2p.cn or http://yoosee.co. I installed the software CMS Client and logged in as admin, but it did not find the camera via WiFi connection. I used an Ethernet cable from my computer to the camera, and eventually it was found and I could see what the camera was aimed at. It appeared in full color for well-lit scenes, and switched to grey-scale for items in darkness (IR). The image quality seems very good.

Connecting the Ethernet cable to my router made it work much better. WiFi would be nice, but I can run a cable from where I will eventually mount the camera. I have it set up to record 10 minute video clips, and I now have 60 ".AV" files of about 5-45 MB each that I can play back using the GUI (the file is not compatible with Windows Media Player). I'm not sure if it records only when movement is detected.

One problem I have is that the date/time display reads "2010-04-29", and I can find no way to set it correctly. Here is the PDF manual, which has very little detail:
http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/electronics/CMS%20quick%20operation%20guideline%20v1.0%20-EN%20.pdf

Here is a manual that was recommended by the Banggood website, but it appears to be for a much different camera and mostly shows the app for a smartphone, which includes date/time setting. Maybe I need to get a cheap Android device that might accept the app and be able to interface to the camera:
http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/electronics/Camera_20161111234315English%20User%20Manual.pdf

Another issue is accessing the slot for the SD card. The Banggood site shows how to unscrew the lens retainer bezel to expose an opening, but my camera has only a short bezel and it seems I would need to remove the guts of the camera to access the circuitry behind the LEDs. I made a short video showing this:
http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/electronics/Camera_Lens_Retainer_Ring_3488.AVI

Here I am removing the bezel:
http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/electronics/Banggood_1095692_Camera_Lens_Retaining_Ring_0.jpg

Bezel and lens removed:
http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/electronics/Banggood_1095692_Camera_Lens_Retaining_Ring_2.jpg

An image from the GUI, featuring my dog Mr Tibbs shamelessly exposing himself:
http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/electronics/Banggood_1095692_Camera_Video_Image.jpg

Mostly, this is to show the incorrect date/time stamp on the video.

This camera seems to be a pretty good deal for $42, but I'd be happier if I could set the date/time.

bborr01
08-03-2017, 10:57 PM
I bought a cheap wireless video camera several years ago and never did get it to run wirelessly. Even with the cable hooked up the quality and reliability were marginal.

Then last year I decided to see what was out there again. I ended up with a Amcrest 1080P camera with tilt and pan, Zoom and two way sound for about $100 each. You can also set them to record motion and a bunch of other things. I added two more of them this spring. They've come a long way with video cameras lately.

Brian

Danl
08-04-2017, 12:58 AM
I'm now on my 2nd cheap IP camera, and have been disappointed with them both. Both have WIFI, which I really don't care that much about anyway. I looked around for the best software for a decent price, and found that Blue Iris is a great IP cam package. Give it a try, Paul. It has a routing that will find your camera IP and make every attempt to connect to it, which it does in most cases. There are a ton of these cameras coming in from China. The flexibility of Blue Iris is what makes it great, and it was developed and is being continuously updated here in the states.

My latest cam is 1080p, with PTZ, plus one way sound, and I think I paid less than $100 for it.

Dan

PStechPaul
08-04-2017, 04:13 AM
I also ordered another camera for $29:
https://www.banggood.com/GUUDGO-GD-SC01-720P-Waterproof-Wifi-IP-Camera-Outdoor-Bullet-IR-Night-Vision-CCTV-Camera-p-1165482.html

It can be mounted anywhere, as shown below, which protects New York from aliens sneaking in from the sky:

http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/electronics/GUUDGO_Camera_Liberty.jpg

It came with a CD and a later software revision, but it is really the same as the other, and I got both cameras to display on the screen. However, it also required a hard-wired Ethernet connection through the router. I think WiFi is only through a smartphone or maybe an Android tablet. The date/time stamp on this camera is 2010-01-01.

It looks pretty good, and the SD card and reset button are accessible by removing a soft rubber boot.

http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/electronics/GUUDGO_Camera_Accessories.jpg

I'll have to check out the Blue Iris software. Hopefully it will be compatible. Thanks for the info.

PStechPaul
08-04-2017, 04:04 PM
I downloaded a 15 day trial version of Blue Iris software, but it could not find the cameras I have connected to my router:

http://download.cnet.com/Blue-Iris/3000-13633_4-10159499.html

Is there any way to find the IP addresses of the cameras and other devices on the network? If I remove the devices using the original CMS software, it will find them and show the IP addresses, but once I add them, it no longer shows them. I can't find them using the control panel network functions.

I might get a cheap Android tablet to see if it can load the app so I can access device properties such as date/time:

http://www.microcenter.com/product/477785/A748_Tablet_-_Black

Frank K
08-04-2017, 04:10 PM
I bought the following security videocam, and finally got it working:

https://us.banggood.com/Wholesale-Warehouse-P2P-HD-IP-CCTV-Wifi-Wireless-High-Definition-Surveillance-Camera-Waterproof-wp-Usa-1095692.html

https://img.banggood.com/thumb/grid/oaupload/banggood/images/25/AA/f6eda5fe-044e-4a51-a692-ca0ab50c8b30.jpg

It seems to be pretty well made, but the user manual is minimal, even the PDF version on-line. The Windows GUI and user manual can be downloaded from http://yyp2p.cn or http://yoosee.co. I installed the software CMS Client and logged in as admin, but it did not find the camera via WiFi connection. I used an Ethernet cable from my computer to the camera, and eventually it was found and I could see what the camera was aimed at. It appeared in full color for well-lit scenes, and switched to grey-scale for items in darkness (IR). The image quality seems very good.

Connecting the Ethernet cable to my router made it work much better. WiFi would be nice, but I can run a cable from where I will eventually mount the camera. I have it set up to record 10 minute video clips, and I now have 60 ".AV" files of about 5-45 MB each that I can play back using the GUI (the file is not compatible with Windows Media Player). I'm not sure if it records only when movement is detected.

One problem I have is that the date/time display reads "2010-04-29", and I can find no way to set it correctly. Here is the PDF manual, which has very little detail:
http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/electronics/CMS%20quick%20operation%20guideline%20v1.0%20-EN%20.pdf

Here is a manual that was recommended by the Banggood website, but it appears to be for a much different camera and mostly shows the app for a smartphone, which includes date/time setting. Maybe I need to get a cheap Android device that might accept the app and be able to interface to the camera:
http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/electronics/Camera_20161111234315English%20User%20Manual.pdf

Another issue is accessing the slot for the SD card. The Banggood site shows how to unscrew the lens retainer bezel to expose an opening, but my camera has only a short bezel and it seems I would need to remove the guts of the camera to access the circuitry behind the LEDs. I made a short video showing this:
http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/electronics/Camera_Lens_Retainer_Ring_3488.AVI

Here I am removing the bezel:
http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/electronics/Banggood_1095692_Camera_Lens_Retaining_Ring_0.jpg

Bezel and lens removed:
http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/electronics/Banggood_1095692_Camera_Lens_Retaining_Ring_2.jpg

An image from the GUI, featuring my dog Mr Tibbs shamelessly exposing himself:
http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/electronics/Banggood_1095692_Camera_Video_Image.jpg

Mostly, this is to show the incorrect date/time stamp on the video.

This camera seems to be a pretty good deal for $42, but I'd be happier if I could set the date/time.

Wow! That's a whole lot of pages of chinglish!

Try this - go to the device manager page in the CMS software and get the IP address of the camera. Close the CMS software. Then use your web browser of choice to go directly to that IP. This should give you the internal configuration page in the camera. If you can locate a network configuration page in the camera make sure the primary DNS is the address of your router - usually 192.168.1.1. That way the camera will get its time configuration from the router. There MAY also be a "time and date" setting. Check that. If you have a choice you can use time.nist.gov as the time source but you'll have to make sure you set the correct time zone. NIST provides UTC time.
Assuming that the camera is getting its network configuration via DHCP from your router its strange that the time isn't also getting configured.

PStechPaul
08-04-2017, 05:48 PM
I was able to log on to my Xfinity router (10.0.0.1) and I found 3 devices with IP addresses as follows, and results using my browser:

10.0.0.103 Timeout
10.0.0.4 Cannot connect
10.0.0.82 Cannot connect

They are listed as off-line devices. The cameras are 10.0.0.4 and 10.0.0.82. Using Blue Iris, I was able to find RTSP ports at those addresses, but they showed a 400:Bad Request and No Signal.

Danl
08-04-2017, 06:49 PM
Paul,

Goto https://ipcamtalk.com/forums/blue-iris.30/ and ask that question. A user with the handle of 'fenderman' is very helpful and knowledgeable.

Dan

PStechPaul
08-04-2017, 11:24 PM
I posted on the IP CAM Talk forum and fenderman clued me in to a utility that identifies cameras on the network:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/onvifdm/

http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/electronics/ONVIF_Device_Manager.jpg

It found both cameras and I was able to set the date/time for both. I could also select "Live Video" which showed the images from the cameras. But I was unable to use Blue Iris. At this point, the CMS software I have will do the job, and I would need to be really impressed by Blue Iris, assuming I can even get it working.

Danl
08-04-2017, 11:50 PM
Ok, if your existing software works, why change it. I've thought you could give it a shot, but it sounds like all you really needed was a way to set the time and date.

Onvif is a great investigative tool for ip cams.

Dan

PStechPaul
08-05-2017, 05:26 AM
Yeah, "fenderman" was rather condescending in his reply to me where I said the cheap cameras and the free CMS software were really all I need. Almost like what I would expect from Practical Machinist if I posted about my HF drill/mill and 9x20 lathe. Oh, well, at least I found the ONVIF Device Manager that let me set date/time, although it doesn't seem to adjust for DST. Now I just need to get the cameras mounted where they will be useful, and run Ethernet cables to my router. Thanks.

Danl
08-05-2017, 09:13 AM
I had a similar experience the first time I tried to get help from him. I think he has the same elitist attitude as some over on PM.

Dan