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SirLesPatterson
10-04-2017, 02:09 PM
I'm sorting through a lot of new to me tooling and also reorganize my tooling. I want to optimize my little shop and I think a big part of that is getting rid of excess and things I will likely never use. I figured I would start a general thread rather than one for each item as I come across them.

I may try to assemble an extra set of general tooling in case I come across someone who is interested in getting started machining I can have something to gift to them.

1. Evidently I have a bin of 20-30 assorted round broaches. I'm not sure that I see a reasonable need for these in my home shop as I can drill and ream things.

2. Piloted Counterbores (I asked about them here (http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/threads/74742-Piloted-counterbores)) I have bins of them in various sizes with duplication in the dozens. I'm thinking it might be best to keep one bin of assorted sizes, with maybe 2-4 duplicates of each size?

3. Copper Head Laps (I asked about them here (http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/threads/74741-Copper-Head-Laps)) I think I will keep these for now as they will take up only one bin drawer.

4. Small Taps. I have hundreds of the same size in 10-32, 8-32, and many smaller sizes. I have never needed to tap a tiny hole before. Maybe thin it down to keep 10 of each tiny size?

Thanks for advice.
More to come.

Yondering
10-04-2017, 04:23 PM
On the taps - 10 of each size makes sense and should be plenty especially if you rarely use them. If you want to get rid of some, I'd be interested (particularly 10-32 and 6-32) if they are good quality and sharp, as I tap 4140 or tool steel frequently in these sizes and usually discard them after a couple uses. Feel free to send a PM if you'd like to arrange a deal for some of those.

J Tiers
10-04-2017, 04:49 PM
The smaller the size, the more to keep... They break... And small ones can be more expensive.

10-32 and 8-32 etc? 10 is probably OK. Just be sure that the ones you keep are sharp, and if you have spiral point taps, keep those.

Also keep sets.... if you have taper, plug and bottoming, keep several of each. Not as many taper are required, most of the time a plug tap is fine, but the taper ones start straight and can be worth their space.

SirLesPatterson
10-14-2017, 06:46 AM
I have a lot of these cutters. They look like really short end mills or really wide angle dovetail cutters. Most say RICHARDS 50059, some carbide ones say SKC-68, 44A, 75 degree. They do not look like my other dovetail cutters. Can someone advise me on these? Thanks.

http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1854&d=1507977540

Larry Swearingen
10-14-2017, 07:28 AM
The little dovetail cutter on the left looks dull as hell and the one on the right appears to be broken, or near to breaking apart. See the split ?
Larry S

1-800miner
10-14-2017, 07:46 AM
All my piloted counter bore were ruined in the fire. Put a set together and tell me what you want.

SirLesPatterson
10-14-2017, 08:05 AM
All my piloted counter bore were ruined in the fire. Put a set together and tell me what you want.

I'll hook you up with an assortment of stuff. It might take me a little while as I'm still sorting tooling though. PM me your address

SirLesPatterson
10-14-2017, 08:09 AM
The little dovetail cutter on the left looks dull as hell and the one on the right appears to be broken, or near to breaking apart. See the split ?
Larry S

Filth and camera tricks.

JoeLee
10-14-2017, 09:01 AM
I have a lot of these cutters. They look like really short end mills or really wide angle dovetail cutters. Most say RICHARDS 50059, some carbide ones say SKC-68, 44A, 75 degree. They do not look like my other dovetail cutters. Can someone advise me on these? Thanks.

http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1854&d=1507977540 They look to be shop made and either not properly hardened, not hardened through out or hardened just enough to do what the maker wanted them to do.
I've never seen an end mill crack. They snap. Cracking would tell me that they are not very hard. Not sure where to guess at RC with out knowing what the material is.

JL........................

SirLesPatterson
10-14-2017, 09:08 AM
They look to be shop made and probably not properly hardened, or hardened just enough to do what the maker wanted them to do.
I've never seen an end mill crack. They snap. Cracking would tell me that they are not very hard. Not sure where to guess at RC with out knowing what the material is. JL........................

It's not a crack, was a hair. Also I have many that are new sealed in rubber and they have etched labeling with diameters and part numbers from a few manufacturers (for which google didn't reveal anything). I don't think they are shop made, plus there are some carbide ones.

SirLesPatterson
10-14-2017, 09:55 AM
What's this, a deburring tool? The tips swivel.

http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1855&d=1507989169

Dan_the_Chemist
10-14-2017, 10:03 AM
I may try to assemble an extra set of general tooling in case I come across someone who is interested in getting started machining I can have something to gift to them.

Sounds like you could participate in Keith Fenner's "Whats In Your Toolbox" project. They collect videos from aspiring machinists who explain why they would be a good choice, and then a number of deserving winners gets a tool box of all sorts of goodies donated through out the year by machinists from all over.

This is the lead video in a playlist of 6 videos explaining the project, showing what each recipient received, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eINMyilKZd0&list=PL6hKtD0zNnBE7L1OX2CaQ9UhCDuHS8JR-

rusty reamer
10-14-2017, 10:09 AM
That is part of a deburring tool. Should have a platic handle.

pinstripe
10-14-2017, 10:15 AM
The Shaviv deburring tools look like that. Probably a B or E style.

https://www.amazon.com/SHAVIV-29004-Blade-Holder-Blades/dp/B003JY7KOS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1507990475&sr=8-1&keywords=shaviv+e+handle

https://www.amazon.com/SHAVIV-29055-Classic-Aluminum-Handle/dp/B003JY7L2E/ref=pd_bxgy_328_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=XW69QSWD8YJ9SBEKKHYH

SirLesPatterson
10-14-2017, 10:39 AM
The Shaviv deburring tools look like that. Probably a B or E style.

Thanks for the product name. It allowed me to find a video... pretty nifty looking!

JoeLee
10-14-2017, 10:57 AM
It's not a crack, was a hair. Also I have many that are new sealed in rubber and they have etched labeling with diameters and part numbers from a few manufacturers (for which google didn't reveal anything). I don't think they are shop made, plus there are some carbide ones.Sure fooled me. The way that hair is laying in the gullet of that cutter looks just like a crack.

JL.................

A.K. Boomer
10-14-2017, 11:11 AM
May not have been a crack but Larry's correct on the far left one being dull as hell --- that there is no camera trick...

3 Phase Lightbulb
10-14-2017, 11:42 AM
I have a lot of these cutters. They look like really short end mills or really wide angle dovetail cutters. Most say RICHARDS 50059, some carbide ones say SKC-68, 44A, 75 degree. They do not look like my other dovetail cutters. Can someone advise me on these? Thanks.



You want to get rid of those. The pubic hair indicates what the previous owner used them for...

http://www.bbssystem.com/pictures/hair.jpg

SirLesPatterson
10-14-2017, 11:54 AM
I concede that other cutter probably is dull, you all probably know more than me on this stuff. As far as the crack... Well, all I know is I got the 'crack' off with my finger. I didn't enjoy it but it provided a satisfactory result. I'll give them all a closer exam just in case though. Thanks all for the input.

SirLesPatterson
10-14-2017, 12:30 PM
http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1858&d=1507998580

3 Phase Lightbulb
10-14-2017, 12:47 PM
Glad you got that pube off there. :)

dave_r
10-14-2017, 03:47 PM
I don't think I would lay down on the milling machine and trust someone else to work the controls on it, just to get a really close shave...