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3 Phase Lightbulb
08-13-2018, 07:29 PM
This is truly astonishing. Obviously this guy didn't have previous flying experience. I assume he was flying around at full throttle the entire flight.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lreu_FMx6wE

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-13-2018, 07:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DstWZY_eUOc

gambler
08-13-2018, 07:56 PM
everybody eventually leaves the keys in the ignition.:(

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-13-2018, 08:13 PM
Another good one. Some raw footage


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM-8wy6u950

A.K. Boomer
08-13-2018, 08:52 PM
could not believe that guys skill level for never flying esp. the lake dive bomb maneuver,

what a wing-nut but at least he didn't kill anyone else... still - what a wing-nut

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-13-2018, 09:11 PM
The more power an airplane has, the easier it is to fly. I think he took off with full throttle which is normal but never bothered to back off and continued to fly at full throttle which is incredibly easy to do. He probably never even touched the rudder after he took off. Once he is off the ground, he could fly around with full throttle effortlessly with just elevator and aileron inputs.

Machine
08-13-2018, 09:21 PM
It actually isn't that difficult to perform maneuvers like that if you're not afraid to die (and aren't worried about over stressing the airframe or stalling). He was an aircraft mechanic so he knew how airplanes work plus he said he's flown sims in video games, which certainly helps.

I once flew a real USN V-22 simulator and performed high speed barrel rolls about 500 feet over the deck above a virtual runway. It was easy. So was landing and takeoff (sorta). I did similar things in a full fledged multi-million dollar F-18 simulator (including flying it under a bridge). And I'm no V-22 or F-18 pilot to say the least. Take-off in a aircraft like the commuter he's flying wouldn't be that hard either (barring a strong crosswind). Getting an approach right and landing without damaging the aircraft would have been impressive though...The one thing he didn't do.

lugnut
08-13-2018, 09:33 PM
Come on folks, this nut was on a suicide mission, he was not looking for your or 3 Phase's approval. And he got the job done in style.

lakeside53
08-13-2018, 09:41 PM
He was a baggage handler, not a mechanic. And listen to the ATC audio... kind of sad.

You can fly a sim all day long, but until you really experience the G-forces of a loop and barrel roll it's hard to image exactly what you need to do. When he came close to the water, the only thing that stopped him pancaking at that point was that he got into ground effect with decent attitude and high speed. If he'd hit the water he might have actually survived, if he chose too.

tomato coupe
08-13-2018, 09:49 PM
The more power an airplane has, the easier it is to fly. I think he took off with full throttle which is normal but never bothered to back off and continued to fly at full throttle which is incredibly easy to do. He probably never even touched the rudder after he took off. Once he is off the ground, he could fly around with full throttle effortlessly with just elevator and aileron inputs.

He was at less than half power.

A.K. Boomer
08-13-2018, 10:24 PM
The more power an airplane has, the easier it is to fly. I think he took off with full throttle which is normal but never bothered to back off and continued to fly at full throttle which is incredibly easy to do. He probably never even touched the rudder after he took off. Once he is off the ground, he could fly around with full throttle effortlessly with just elevator and aileron inputs.

yeah somewhat until you dive-bomb an obstacle (like a lake) and have to try and calculate slip and the amount of forces and radius the plane can hold, like I say - first time out in the real world and that actually had me on the edge of my seat some wondering if that's when he was going to crash, nope - he pulled that one off... his judgement was fairly sound (or he got somewhat lucky too) for all that could have went wrong with that particular stunt...

mattthemuppet
08-13-2018, 10:32 PM
I thought it was pretty sad to be honest. At least he didn't hurt anyone else in the process.

A.K. Boomer
08-13-2018, 10:58 PM
absolutely --- sad yet glad he did not hurt anyone but even in just "offing" himself he also destroyed allot of valuable equipment,,, not exactly going out as a hero.

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-13-2018, 11:02 PM
He was at less than half power.

That plane was flying full throttle. There was a point where I believe they told him to throttle back and he indicated it's now above idle at which point they said power up to 50%. He was also burning through his fuel like crazy. You don't burn that much fuel at half power.

PStechPaul
08-13-2018, 11:56 PM
Another similar incident today:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/utah-man-crashes-plane-own-house-after-assaulting-wife-police-n900236

https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_33/2529221/180813-plane-crash-home-payson-utah-njs-1237_88de837c831c01ce912abe6ac32b2ab6.fit-760w.jpg

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-14-2018, 12:11 AM
Maybe he forgot he was in a plane and not his car.

ken
08-14-2018, 12:27 AM
They sent the F15's from Portland boy did they make a racket flying over the house those boys used some fuel that day I am in Woodland wa about 25 miles north of PDX Ken

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-14-2018, 12:30 AM
They sent the F15's from Portland boy did they make a racket flying over the house those boys used some fuel that day I am in Woodland wa about 25 miles north of PDX Ken

I bet. I'm sure they had the afterburners going too.

lakeside53
08-14-2018, 12:49 AM
They boomed all the way past Olympia. Don't get a lot of chance to go supersonic over land anymore.

rzbill
08-14-2018, 06:25 AM
The knee jerks are claiming a crisis in airport security now. I'm expecting trigger locks on aircraft soon.
We already have useless security fencing around airports that do the dilligent job of keeping out kids interested in aviation.

flylo
08-14-2018, 06:47 AM
I thought he did a good job for not being a pilot & it wasn't a crash, he stuck it just where he wanted to. Went out in style. Years ago a guy flying a '46 Aeronica Champ pushed the throttle to fast & killed it on take off, got out propped it & it started. knocked him down as he had left the throttle at wide open. It took off flew for a few hours followed by other planes, ran out of gas & landed itself almost unharmed as it was trimmed for take off which is about the same as trimmed for landing. The 1st unmanned uncontrolled flying plane. Then there was the old pilot who was ready to go that bought a ride in an aerobatic biplane, told the pilot that he flew for years so don't hold back on the aerobatics. When the landed as the pilot was getting out asked the old boy how he liked the ride & found no one & just an unbuckled harness in the seat. He went out in style also.

DR
08-14-2018, 07:36 AM
They sent the F15's from Portland boy did they make a racket flying over the house those boys used some fuel that day I am in Woodland wa about 25 miles north of PDX Ken

I was near Boeing Field in South Seattle when the two F15's landed. This is an area where aircraft noise is a way of life, but those two were unusually loud.

vpt
08-14-2018, 07:54 AM
Another good one. Some raw footage


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM-8wy6u950



I wanted to slap the woman talking in this one.

A.K. Boomer
08-14-2018, 08:10 AM
Lol Andy im so with you on that! Yes im sure he's not going to hit you but someone else is lol gawd spare me the drama...

lakeside53
08-14-2018, 10:16 AM
The knee jerks are claiming a crisis in airport security now. I'm expecting trigger locks on aircraft soon.
We already have useless security fencing around airports that do the dilligent job of keeping out kids interested in aviation.

Actually... General Aviation Security (non-airline stuff) is and has always has been pretty weak. I've done my share of flying in corp jets.. that's what I'd do if i was a bad guy. On the other hand... if it's a "inside job", not hard to defeat almost any security. The 2 F15 were armed and onsite within 10 min. They would have taken him out if they thought there was a threat.

RichR
08-14-2018, 11:03 AM
The knee jerks are claiming a crisis in airport security now. I'm expecting trigger locks on aircraft soon.
We already have useless security fencing around airports that do the dilligent job of keeping out kids interested in aviation.

From one of the talking heads on last nights news:

Erroll Southers, the former chief of the Office of Homeland Security at Los Angeles International Airport, said that vulnerability easily could have ended more disastrously.

"Certainly someone who can do barrel rolls with a prop plane could have flown into a building or into a crowd," he said. "He decided not to."
So I guess if Homeland Security knows you can do a barrel roll they put you on a watch list as a possible threat?

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-14-2018, 12:26 PM
I wanted to slap the woman talking in this one.

I wanted to say... "RUN!!! It's coming right at you! RUN!!!!"

boslab
08-14-2018, 12:51 PM
Did he crash it or was there a little “assistance” from the fighters?
The guy must have had some serious problem to want to top himself, he did have a bit of joyride before he went but I find it tragic in one sense whilst relived it didn’t plough into innocents on the other hand.
Seemed to demonstrate a fair amount of flying skill.
Mark

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-14-2018, 01:13 PM
I'm quite sure he either crashed it accidentally or on purpose but he wasn't taken down by the F15s.

Michael Edwards
08-14-2018, 01:25 PM
The 2 F15 were armed and onsite within 10 min. They would have taken him out if they thought there was a threat.

By which time he could have already crashed into a stadium full of people if there was a game on, and he was so inclined.

What strikes me as odd is someone who is so depressed that they decide to end it all, but are clowning around. That is just plain weird to me.

JRouche
08-14-2018, 01:39 PM
Actually... General Aviation Security (non-airline stuff) is and has always has been pretty weak.

Our local that has jets and prop planes is secured by a waist high fence that has a keypad lock for the waist high gate LOL My wife saw that when we were there last week having lunch. She couldn't believe it. Just step right over. JR

This one to the left in the pic...

http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3446&d=1534268295

boslab
08-14-2018, 01:46 PM
I suppose if the f15s wanted to take him out it would take a fair amount of time getting authority to fire on a domestic plane in America or Canada, no one would want responsibility for that.
I wouldn’t want to be the pilot pulling the trigger either.
Mark

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-14-2018, 01:52 PM
I suppose if the f15s wanted to take him out it would take a fair amount of time getting authority to fire on a domestic plane in America or Canada, no one would want responsibility for that.
I wouldn’t want to be the pilot pulling the trigger either.
Mark

Lucky for the kid, the plane he stole didn't have a capital "T" on the vert stabilizer or the F15s would have probably gotten instant authority to engage :)

Willy
08-14-2018, 02:26 PM
Our local that has jets and prop planes is secured by a waist high fence that has a keypad lock for the waist high gate LOL My wife saw that when we were there last week having lunch. She couldn't believe it. Just step right over. JR

This one to the left in the pic...



Damn, what a beautiful place to have lunch!


Too bad the kid had a few loose screws. He seemed like an alright kind of guy that could have made his life a lot better if he channeled his talents and abilities properly. I don't think he showed any malicious intent to harm anyone, other than stealing the plane. I think his landing on that semi-deserted island was planned so as to cause the least amount of collateral damage was indeed a planed one.

He seemed remorseful for his actions but I believe his mind was already made up as to his fate. I think he just wanted one more big kick at the cat before checking out.
He caused a lot of damage and inconvenience for a lot of folks but fortunately he went out alone. A truly sad ending, I was hoping for a successful landing.
R.I.P.

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-14-2018, 02:30 PM
Just step right over.

Not really, there is a sign which looks like it says No Trespassing.

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-14-2018, 02:59 PM
Here is a better/more complete capture of the communication with the ATC and FAA. So sad, seems like a great guy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD5sFrTGFnw

A.K. Boomer
08-14-2018, 03:19 PM
I'm quite sure he either crashed it accidentally or on purpose but he wasn't taken down by the F15s.

Frequencies got mixed up and jumped from the guy taking Andy's Vid to being broadcasted aboard the plane, after hearing a few minutes of the lady in the Vid the pilot came to the logical conclusion that there was only one way out and he took it...

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-14-2018, 03:23 PM
They forgot to add "Anyone can fly one" to their marketing/sales pitch!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UaOfHEsZJU

Willy
08-14-2018, 04:07 PM
Better yet...Start Me Up!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl7mMDBamvw

rzbill
08-14-2018, 09:22 PM
By which time he could have already crashed into a stadium full of people if there was a game on, and he was so inclined.

That is true but while this will sound heartless, the damage from a light craft would not be significant out of the 50K people in attendance. It would be on the order of any severe motorsports accident. Bad for sure, but not the whole stadium.

We kill that same stadium full of people each year in cars and I have yet to see locked fences around every driveway in the US.

vpt
08-14-2018, 09:55 PM
Our local that has jets and prop planes is secured by a waist high fence that has a keypad lock for the waist high gate LOL My wife saw that when we were there last week having lunch. She couldn't believe it. Just step right over. JR

This one to the left in the pic...

http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3446&d=1534268295

Our local airport also with jets and planes, has nothing but grass. Just walk out anywhere.

vpt
08-14-2018, 09:55 PM
I wanted to say... "RUN!!! It's coming right at you! RUN!!!!"



I would love to see this as well!

PStechPaul
08-14-2018, 09:59 PM
I remember when a plane crashed into the stands at Baltimore's Memorial Stadium after a Colts game 45 years ago. He was arrested and charged with littering, and freed on $2100 bond:

https://ghostsofbaltimore.org/2013/11/11/plane-crashes-into-memorial-stadium/

https://s3.amazonaws.com/ghostsofdc/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2013/11/27205750/59c74df37dd7eb820a6c3f547e732b82.jpg

The guy responsible was a regular at a local bar I frequented after volleyball in the 1980s.

My father (or maybe my uncle) saw a plane crash into the Empire State Building. He called the newspapers but they didn't believe him:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/empire-state-building-plane-crash

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1945_Empire_State_Building_B-25_crash

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/38/Empirestate540.jpg/220px-Empirestate540.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Bomber_Crashed_into_Empire_State_Building_1945.jpg/220px-Bomber_Crashed_into_Empire_State_Building_1945.jpg

J Tiers
08-14-2018, 10:59 PM
That first link is a stupid article...... since when would a B-25 be loaded with JET FUEL? Journalists are a sorry lot when it comes to anything technical.