I need to make 200 button style drawer bumpers, here's my ideas

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  • nc5a
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 1051

    I need to make 200 button style drawer bumpers, here's my ideas

    I've invested several hours searching the web for suitable bumpers but haven't found anything that would work so decided to make them.
    Rough drawing of the button style bumper.

    This what the only intact one looks like. Made of some kind of plastic.

    My first idea was to grind a profile cutter and make them one at a time. The 1/2" HSS shows only the outline of the profile I need to grind.

    Then I got to thinking about doing a mold and manually injecting a suitable material. I'm not sure what material that will be as I'm still researching it but it might be faster than making 200 individual bumpers with a profiling tool. The mold will of course be made in two parts. One side for the head and other for the shaft. The idea is to drill through the top half and part way into the bottom half to provide a counter sink of sorts. Then form the button head with a larger drill with a special profile. What I use to inject and how I do it needs to be figured out. Do you guys have any ideas?
  • 754
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2017
    • 4797

    #2
    I think you only need 96.

    Turn step to .187, switch tools cut small radius , part off. With form tool, will get all but a tit in the center.
    Then Chuck in lathe or drill, work tit off with a file. . Might have to snip the tit off, before filing.

    Could be that graphite impregnated plastic stock.
    Last edited by 754; 01-29-2019, 02:04 AM.

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    • tomato coupe
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2016
      • 1397

      #3
      Have you tried Accurate Products?

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      • RichR
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2014
        • 2756

        #4
        I'm sure you want to make them yourself, but these look pretty close to what you're looking for:
        Location: Long Island, N.Y.

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        • 754
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2017
          • 4797

          #5
          Those stick not slide.

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          • Doc Nickel
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2003
            • 5785

            #6
            Injection molding is WAY more involved than you want to take up for a one-off project like this. When I started making my molded parts- a tiny rubber piece- it took weeks to develop. Material choices, mold design, mold material, eliminating air bubbles, etc.

            In this case I'd definitely look around for a commercially made piece. Any plastic you turn will be too rigid to act like a good bumper, and any rubber you mold will cost you a great deal of time, material and experimentation.

            Doc.
            Doc's Machine. (Probably not what you expect.)

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            • MattiJ
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2016
              • 4916

              #7
              Google ”lathe skiving tool”
              Location: Helsinki, Finland, Europe

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              • nc5a
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 1051

                #8
                [QUOTE=754;1219986]I think you only need 96.

                God I hate it when this happens. You're right I need 96 and a couple extras for 100...............not 200.

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                • nc5a
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 1051

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RichR View Post
                  I'm sure you want to make them yourself, but these look pretty close to what you're looking for:
                  https://www.rockler.com/soft-stem-bumpers
                  And once again, I knew if I said I searched the world over and couldn't find anything suitable someone on this form would find something that might work and post the link within the first couple post. Thanks
                  Last edited by nc5a; 01-29-2019, 03:23 AM.

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                  • PStechPaul
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 8095

                    #10
                    McMaster has some that might work, $13/100:

                    McMaster-Carr is the complete source for your plant with over 595,000 products. 98% of products ordered ship from stock and deliver same or next day.


                    To make your own, with a wide choice of size and material, maybe buy some plastic balls, drill a hole through the center, insert a plastic (or metal) shaft, cut in half, then position the shaft as needed and glue in place.

                    McMaster-Carr is the complete source for your plant with over 595,000 products. 98% of products ordered ship from stock and deliver same or next day.


                    If you want to try molding the parts, perhaps get some candy-making molds. You can use them to make the hemispherical parts, and position the shaft in the middle as they cool:



                    http://pauleschoen.com/pix/PM08_P76_P54.png
                    Paul , P S Technology, Inc. and MrTibbs
                    USA Maryland 21030

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                    • Bob La Londe
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 3985

                      #11
                      Originally posted by nc5a View Post
                      I've invested several hours searching the web for suitable bumpers but haven't found anything that would work so decided to make them.
                      Rough drawing of the button style bumper.

                      This what the only intact one looks like. Made of some kind of plastic.

                      My first idea was to grind a profile cutter and make them one at a time. The 1/2" HSS shows only the outline of the profile I need to grind.

                      Then I got to thinking about doing a mold and manually injecting a suitable material. I'm not sure what material that will be as I'm still researching it but it might be faster than making 200 individual bumpers with a profiling tool. The mold will of course be made in two parts. One side for the head and other for the shaft. The idea is to drill through the top half and part way into the bottom half to provide a counter sink of sorts. Then form the button head with a larger drill with a special profile. What I use to inject and how I do it needs to be figured out. Do you guys have any ideas?
                      You may have some difficulty demolding that depending on the material. Ejector pins might be in order. There are lots of pourable or castable "rubber" products available from outfits like Smooth-On, Alumilite, and Tap Plastics. 2 part catalyst kicked silicone like Smooth-On's Sorta Clear 37A is pretty tough. I use it for an array of projects from rubber stamps to flexible molds. However here is the kicker. It takes 4 hrs to cure and that's fast for a silicone rubber. Might take a while to make 200 bumpers.
                      --
                      Bob La Londe
                      Professional Hack, Hobbyist, Wannabe, Shade Tree, Button Pushing, Not a "Real" machinist​
                      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                      I always wanted a welding stinger that looked like the north end of a south bound chicken. Often my welds look like somebody pointed the wrong end of a chicken at the joint and squeezed until something came out. Might as well look the part.

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                      • Dragons_fire
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 603

                        #12
                        are these close enough?

                        Shop Hardware Collection on Lee Valley. Browse our extensive selection of functional, decorative fittings to help you find the right finishing touches for any project.

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                        • nc5a
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 1051

                          #13
                          Bob La,

                          This was going to be a low budget project. I had planned to find an injectable rubber of some sort like Shoe Goo and fill the cavites with a syringe. As was pointed out very quickly my math was way off. I only need about 100. Thanks for the tips/trade names of products that might work, saves me a bunch of time researching. If I go this route I'll make a 100 cavites in one mold plate and cast them all at the same time. But, I may have to give in and buy ready made bumpers since several sources have been brought to my attention.

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                          • J Tiers
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 44377

                            #14
                            Seven bucks for a hundred

                            McMaster-Carr is the complete source for your plant with over 595,000 products. 98% of products ordered ship from stock and deliver same or next day.
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                            • Dragons_fire
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 603

                              #15
                              I dont have pics here, but i have made glow plug boots for a model engine out of 2-part urethane in an aluminum mold turned on the lathe. If i could have found them commercially available for anywhere near what the bumpers cost, i wouldn't have even attempted it. I made 10 (about 1/2"dia x 1.25" long) and used about $20 worth of rubber. I also had access to a vacuum chamber to help reduce the bubbles in the parts.

                              Moulding parts is fun, and works great for unique parts, but for something like bumpers at pennies a piece, youre gonna be better off just buying something that will work.

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