View Full Version : Just bought a shaper
Alistair Hosie
09-20-2004, 02:42 PM
Have been after this all week having missed the last one.Bronwen and I are driving to Cardiff this weekend to take my youngest son Ewen to University so I can collect it on the way back home. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif looks quite good
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3839841771&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT
John Stevenson
09-20-2004, 02:50 PM
No good, it's blue
Cecil Walker
09-20-2004, 02:57 PM
Congradulations, hope you enjoy it as much as I have mine.
G.A. Ewen
09-20-2004, 03:00 PM
Congratulations Alistair.
Mark Jones
09-20-2004, 03:00 PM
looking well Alistair
I recomend you join this group to find out all about them.
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/Metal_Shapers/
all the best.mark
ps ...no idea why this group starts with finance in the url...they must have listed it in the wrong category !
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Alistair Hosie
09-20-2004, 03:18 PM
Hey John It won't be blue for long http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif Alistair
Alistair,
I'm not sure what kind of work interests you, but I hope the shaper doesn't turn into a boat anchor. For me I don't think there's anything I can achieve with a shaper that can't be achieved (maybe more slowly) with my mill.
Mind you, as a tool junkie I'd probably enjoy taking it apart and reconditioning it.....
Ken
J Tiers
09-20-2004, 03:40 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kenc:
Alistair,
I'm not sure what kind of work interests you, but I hope the shaper doesn't turn into a boat anchor. For me I don't think there's anything I can achieve with a shaper that can't be achieved (maybe more slowly) with my mill.
Mind you, as a tool junkie I'd probably enjoy taking it apart and reconditioning it.....
Ken</font>
Naaah.....
Shapers are more accessible and less frenetic than mills, depending on the feed and speed you set up. And they produce a nicer surface, in general.
You can't beat them for peeling off extra material, and they ahve a nice relaxing sound.
I think they are also quite a bit more dangerous than mills. The slow operation tends to cause a person to think they can do things they shouldn't. Like reach over and flick those chips away while the ram is back.....DON'T.
After you have cut an "acid brush" in half brushing chips, you won't want to even think about that.......
Mine is still not in operation after the last shop re-organization/machine moving session. Just had a job for it too, but had to do that a different way.......
NAMPeters
09-20-2004, 04:00 PM
Nice new toy and it already has a blue primer coat ready for the green, WhoooHeee! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif Great tool for relieving stress, personal that is.
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Neil Peters
Alistair Hosie
09-20-2004, 04:06 PM
Ken first off I don't think like that anymore
Ken I am taking my life a day at a time, then a month at a time etc.I didn't pay a lot for it also I have other tools which I only use now and then.If it is found to be totaly useless (which I doubt)I can relax thinking that I paid less for a quality machine like this than a small decent modern hand drill would cost.In any case I figure I will use it.We will see!In any case "as said" it is worth the experiment to me .It is not enough money to lose sleep over http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif regards Alistair
Alistair Hosie
09-20-2004, 04:09 PM
Hey Neil I am thinking of fitting a saddle on top to see who can stay on longest. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
Alistair p.s. the one who loses get's to paint it green are you game enough to try http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
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Mark Jones
09-20-2004, 04:16 PM
Yeeeeeee-haaaa ride em cowboy ... Alistair Hopalong Hosie rides into town on his trusty boxford shaper.
I'm game for it......take the saddle off yer lathe.
all the best..mark
Forrest Addy
09-20-2004, 05:17 PM
Cool and it has a rotating block. Lots of versitility.
Al Messer
09-20-2004, 05:25 PM
Congratulations on your find. They are very versatile machines, performing many operations that you cannot do with a mill, interior keyways for one. Plus, the cutters are so darn cheap--HSS tool blanks ground to whatever shape you need on the bench grinder. J.Tiers is right though---watch out for that Ram!!
NAMPeters
09-20-2004, 06:07 PM
Either way Alistair, win or loose, by the time I am finished the machine will be a bilious green, ugh!
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Neil Peters
wierdscience
09-20-2004, 07:07 PM
Nice catch,just spray on a thin coat of yellow,that should make it look green http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
Frank Ford
09-20-2004, 07:37 PM
Good going - I'd like to find such a great tool lying around here somewhere - at such a reasonable price. And, it will look just fine in A.H. green.
Poor Alistair, you take so much criticism about painting your tools such a nice tastful color!
Nearly 40 years ago my friend, Carl, decided to paint all the motors in his shop "delphinium blue," and had to endure similar chiding from those friends who think in grays.
Me, well, the color cross I've borne is more of a purple/lavendar. We still have some items around the shop I painted before running out of paint. When I replaced my 1961 Metropolitan's water pump in about 1980, I painted the fan that color. I still think it looks cool, and I still hear about it every time somebody looks under the hood. I try to tell them I'm not trying to sell them the car so they should quit worrying about it.
"Good taste" is overrated:
http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/Machining/QuickTricks/Paint/paint.html#Zambesi
vmil3
09-21-2004, 03:29 AM
Hi Alistair,
I noticed the swivle base for the vise is not there, one can be made from a piece of plate steel. The base has 4 bolts that hold it to the shaper table, the under side of the base has a key way to align the vise and base to the table.
For instructions on operating your new blue toy check out Yahoo!Groups:Metal_Shapers http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/Metal_Shapers/ ,when the page loads you will see a Logan Shaper with the vise and base.
Also lots of pics at http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/Metal_Shapers_Pix/
Oh yes very nice purchase
PS; Keep the ram ways well lubed with plenty of way oil (#2 Vactra way lube)
Doug
Alistair Hosie
09-21-2004, 08:58 AM
Hi could someone show me this swivel base for the vice please.Perhaps I could buy a vice with a swivel base or make one at college if I could see what it looks like? Alistair
Alistair Hosie
09-21-2004, 10:08 AM
Hey Frank they can't all be as smart or tasteful as us eh http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif Alistair
Alistair said:
"It is not enough money to lose sleep over"
Gasp!!!
I thought that you were a Scot? http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//tongue.gif
Ken
Guero
09-21-2004, 04:34 PM
Alistair, I think you'll enjoy your purchase. I have an Atlas 7B shaper and when I have a serious amount of metal needing removal it will do it quickly, beautifully, and accurately. Recently I needed to square a block of cast iron and after doing two sides (the block is 5" long by 1.5" thick by 2.5" wide)I measured the "parallelism". Would you believe there was only .0003 of a difference? I next did the top and bottom and again found only .0003 difference. I have not been able to repeat that on a piece of steel and was only able to get within .0008 on a chunk about the same size as the cast iron.