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A.K. Boomer
03-25-2019, 02:51 PM
Im just glad everything worked out ok, every once in awhile you have to see if you "still got it" lol


small lines were hung with a 35 ft "fishing pole" type mechanism to then pull up the larger lines for the "rope chain saw" and the support line that was a slip knot on the limb to be cut and then just draped over the existing limb to hold the massive branch that was threatening my roof,
if we get a late snow after the tree gets leaves it looks like there's a half a ton ready to break loose and go through the roof so had to do something...

if you look close you can see the two chain saw lines and the one support line;

http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4941&d=1553539237

this was my anchor point and came in very handy to lower every once in awhile as I cut.

http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4942&d=1553539253


Bingo (kids --- don't try this at home)

http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4943&d=1553539273

Robin R
03-25-2019, 09:19 PM
Plenty to see on YouTube, for when it doesn't go right.

Dan Dubeau
03-25-2019, 09:34 PM
Plenty to see on YouTube, for when it doesn't go right.

Tree fails, and boat launches gone wrong never fail to entertain me. My buddies new place has a couple trees he wants down in the coming weeks, and we'll be sure to video them. One could be pretty dicey, but I'm about 75% we can drop it away from his house....... :)

Glad you got it down AK. I don't like trees over hanging the house. I have a very large white pine in the backyard that points towards the house, and its very top heavy. If it falls it's coming through my bedroom. Every time we have a big windstorm I have trouble sleeping....It's a nice tree, I just wish it was about 30 feet farther away.

A.K. Boomer
03-25-2019, 09:58 PM
Thanks Dan and believe me i do consider myself lucky, but it nags at you when it's hanging about your head like that - and all's i have is a 2X4 roof with some bracing - a heavy load of snow would go right through esp. if the roof is already being strained by some wet stuff,,,

every year i been sweating it and some years its like "oh man why didn't I do something when I had the chance"

still - I feel lucky and to tell you the truth a little foolish, i don't know if id go through with it again but yesterday after setting up all the rigging a storm started moving in - a little rain making the roof wet and slippery and here i am working the rope/chainsaw wanting to chicken out but I couldn't - so bombs away! it worked. im glad...

hope your situations go well.

A.K. Boomer
03-25-2019, 10:04 PM
Side note; that little skinny yellow rope was from my rescue throw bag for white water kayaking, the rope is called "spectra" and it's rated as being extremely strong and yes it had to prove itself yesterday as that massive branch got a little bit of a head start before the rope caught it so it was at least double the spike loading of the branch itself...

Willy
03-25-2019, 10:30 PM
Good going AK, glad it all worked out okay. Nice to know that at least you have one less thing to worry about. Had the same issue here a few years ago, finally broke down and got my ass up a good tall orchard type ladder and gave everything a big haircut. What a relief not worrying about which way the wind blows or if it's going to snow early with that heavy wet stuff. And I didn't break my neck playing Tarzan.
I'm probably as bad as the next guy for procrastinating but it always feels good when the job is all done successfully.

Now if I could just muster up the courage to tackle painting the trim on the house I'd be golden. On second thought turf that idea, school holidays coming up in the summer, I'm sure some ambitious kid will want to earn a few bucks while picking up some valuable life skills.:)

J Tiers
03-26-2019, 02:17 AM
..... One could be pretty dicey, but I'm about 75% we can drop it away from his house....... :)

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If you want better odds, guy it solidly from the side you want it to go. one if there's lots of room, two at angles if you need it to go more precisely. It can only start to fall in the direction of the guys. If you can take up on them as it starts slacking them, you can be more sure. But be sure not to take up slack so far that it will pull them again as it comes down.

Two, each at maybe 45 deg off the fall path in the direction of fall has worked for me.

PStechPaul
03-26-2019, 03:13 AM
Some time ago I had to fell a very dead tree that was little more than just a 20 foot stump, maybe 15" diameter, so no big deal. I used the proper felling procedures, but as I was finishing the last cut, the whole thing twisted and fell quite an angle away from what was expected. I was able to get out of the way, and it did not cause any damage where it fell, but it was a little scary. The tree was partly hollow and decayed, which made it unpredictable.

I'm glad I had a tree expert come out with his crew last July to take down a big wild cherry tree, and also heavily trim some big branches on the huge sycamore right next to my other house which is my shop and storage building. But a few weeks ago we had some strong winds and another one or two big limbs broke off and put a dent in my roof and clipped the peak on the south side. I've had probably a dozen large trees fall on my 2.5 acre property over the 42 years I've owned it.

Two large cherry trees down on hill behind houses:
http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/house/Cherry_Trees_Down_2455.jpg

Locust tree fell last March, clipping corner of house roof and smashing pickup truck cap:
http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/house/Storm_Damage_4015.jpg

Most recent fallen limbs on roof of house (picture taken through patio door and screen)
http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/house/House_715_Tree_Damage_5058.jpg

Looking south toward house where I live:
http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/house/House_715_Tree_Damage_5065.jpg

Dan Dubeau
03-26-2019, 10:00 AM
If you want better odds, guy it solidly from the side you want it to go. one if there's lots of room, two at angles if you need it to go more precisely. It can only start to fall in the direction of the guys. If you can take up on them as it starts slacking them, you can be more sure. But be sure not to take up slack so far that it will pull them again as it comes down.

Two, each at maybe 45 deg off the fall path in the direction of fall has worked for me.

I'm not too worried about it, my 75% comment was pretty tongue in cheek. We were going to rope it away from the house. The direction of lean is more across his front yard, than AT his house, but I'd rather drop it away from it altogether. I was joking on Saturday about dropping it right then before he gets all his stuff moved in lol.

I'm pretty confident in my abilities to drop a tree exactly where I want to, but I know where to draw the line, and call a pro. This one isn't that bad. There IS a professional arborist in our group of friends (we've almost got somebody from every trade).

danlb
03-26-2019, 04:37 PM
You did well Boomer.

Last week I watched the guy across the street take down a large oak in his front yard. The neighbor's family was in the lumber business, so they brought in a cherry picker bucket truck from the lumber mill. And 5 guys. And two HUGE dump trucks for the debris. And a single big honkin chain saw. Oddly out of place was a battery powered pole mounted pruning saw. It was quite a circus to wake up to.

In 3 hours they cut all the major limbs of and trimmed them to the size where they fit in the truck. They used something the size of a mobile crane that had an arm like a backhoe with multiple pincers to pick up large parts of the trunk and dump them in the trucks. They were a little gun shy after cutting the TV cable, so they also used that crane thing to ensure that the tree fell the right way when they finally felled it.

The final moments (10 seconds) ...


https://i.imgur.com/9UAeYvT.mp4

wierdscience
03-26-2019, 10:16 PM
Side note; that little skinny yellow rope was from my rescue throw bag for white water kayaking, the rope is called "spectra" and it's rated as being extremely strong and yes it had to prove itself yesterday as that massive branch got a little bit of a head start before the rope caught it so it was at least double the spike loading of the branch itself...

Spectra is some impressive stuff,stronger than a compariable sized wire rope,but light enough it floats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYEMT5avIUk

PStechPaul
03-26-2019, 10:22 PM
I shot a video of the final cut and felling of the big wild cherry tree that had grown up behind the old metal shed between the two houses. He had a couple of his guys take the truck up on the meadow and they used it to pull the tree down safely:

http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/house/Brad's_Tree_Service_Wild_Cherry_4404.AVI

I also took videos of him and his crew trimming limbs off the big sycamore. The first video shows how he got up into the tree:

http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/house/Brad's_Tree_Service_Sycamore_4405.AVI

http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/house/Brad's_Tree_Service_Sycamore_4406.AVI

http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/house/Brad's_Tree_Service_Sycamore_4407.AVI

http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/house/Brad's_Tree_Service_Sycamore_4408.AVI

http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/house/Brad's_Tree_Service_Sycamore_4409.AVI

http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/house/Brad's_Tree_Service_Sycamore_4410.AVI

http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/house/Brad's_Tree_Service_Sycamore_4411.AVI

A.K. Boomer
03-27-2019, 10:48 AM
Spectra is some impressive stuff,stronger than a compariable sized wire rope,but light enough it floats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYEMT5avIUk

Wow yeah knew it was tough but really never knew it outdid steel cable, I had studied it after the "incident" to look how it held up to the abrasion and was impressed as there was no signs of fraying - and that's using the tree limb as a "pulley system" without a pulley,,,

The rope seen in the pic actually saved a guys life in the royal gorge run of the arkansas river, really not because of it's strength although the floating factor might have had something to do with it, and some luck...


Paul I watched that first vid - close call on that little building and looks like it actually hit it but deflected lol