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Elninio
11-07-2004, 08:54 PM
check out the B048 from busybeetools.com

Does anyone think it is a ripoff? just curious... i mean, its not precision or anything..

SJorgensen
11-08-2004, 02:25 PM
Your posts seem suspiciously like an advertisement. If you are promoting the site or the product it would be better on some other website.
Thanks,
Spence

Milacron of PM
11-08-2004, 02:38 PM
Sounds more like an "antiadvertisment" to me ! Of course there is the "even bad publicity is good publicity" theory of advertising to consider I suppose.... http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

pgmrdan
11-08-2004, 02:47 PM
From what I understand, Busybee is a pretty big company in Canada so I doubt an individual is trying to stir up some business for them in this way, but you never know.

It would almost be like me mentioning Harbor Freight so HF can get some business.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Busybee even sells to the USA. They sell some of the Asian imports among other things.

Elninio's profile shows Canada so I suspect the question is legitimate.

[This message has been edited by pgmrdan (edited 11-08-2004).]

chkz
11-08-2004, 02:53 PM
that busy bee stuff always looks like such a "great deal" and great prices in their flyers. When ya see it "up close 'n personal" you realize that most of it is just plain & simply imported junk!

Buy American (or British, German or Japanese, or.....if we still make anything here Canadian!!!)
Chris

JRouche
11-08-2004, 03:42 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by pgmrdan:
It would almost be like me mentioning Harbor Freight so HF can get some business.
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Harbor Freight, did you say Harbor Freight? Oh I've heard of Harbor Freight
before. Does Harbor Freight sell good machine tools. I would like to hear anything from you nice people concerning Harbor Freight because I might go to Harbor Freight. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif JRouche

Evan
11-08-2004, 03:57 PM
I just visited the Busy Bee store in Calgary a few weeks ago. I had a look at the machinery. Most of the machines are medium quality Chinese manufacture, some better than others. Not junk but not what I would want given a choice. However the value for the money seems quite good. Some things are a real steal and worth every penny such as tooling and adapters. I bought a well made MT3 to R8 adapter for $17.99 cdn. Same thing at KBC is $60.94 cdn. The KBC part might be better quality (or not) but the one I bought at BB indicates very nicely in the spindle.

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Milacron of PM
11-08-2004, 06:03 PM
"Busy Bee" ? Sheesh, and I thought "Grizzly" and "Jet" were goofy names for machine tools, but this takes the cake !

What's next, Captain Kangeroo machines ? http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

speedy
11-08-2004, 06:25 PM
Busy Bee!!??? what a strange name for a engineering supply outfit, I would have thought it more suited as a title for an Apiarist.
Ken

Arcane
11-08-2004, 08:14 PM
I`ve bought a few things from BB and some things are a good (even great) buy and some things aren`t worth buying but the majority of it was a good bang for the buck.

J Tiers
11-08-2004, 11:13 PM
Don, in china it would probably be something more like "Fine Luck Light Industrial Co".

In Japan, maybe "Machine Boy Tool Co".

Different cultures, different things seen as good.

"Busy Bee" is sort of a hybrid.....but I suppose being "busy as a bee" beats being "busy like a termite". http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

Hey, we think owls are wise, in Wales owls are thought of as foolish.

Mcostello
11-08-2004, 11:23 PM
Here in OHIO an owl's is what you get when you hit your thumb with a hammer! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

Milacron of PM
11-09-2004, 12:59 AM
[quote]In Japan, maybe "Machine Boy Tool Co".

Different cultures, different things seen as good[/quote}


I dunno J, kinda doubtful Mazak, Okuma and Mori Seiki owners would see 'Machine Boy Tool' as a proper name http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//wink.gif

Evan
11-09-2004, 02:34 AM
Most of you have seen ads for LG electronic equipment on TV. Little known is what LG stands for. In their early days the corporation was named "Lucky Goldstar". The Sharp corporation is named after their very first product, a mechanical pencil.

speedy
11-09-2004, 04:27 AM
I don`t know if LG is any better now fromwhen it was known here as Goldstar; it was the sort of quality goods that was best avoided. It was 'lucky' if it was to last 12 months http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif.
Ken

Al Flipo
11-09-2004, 11:10 AM
What is wrong with the name Busy Bee Tools?
They cater mostly to the hobby wood workers, machinist and the general public and sell a lot of useful stuff for the hobbyist.
The #B048 mill in question is not a bad machine for the money, and I wouldn’t call it a “rip off”. It’s one step above a table mill with a slightly larger table and a swiveling head.
The machine is in reality too much bulk for the hobbyist and too small for most serious machining operations.

Milacron of PM
11-09-2004, 11:23 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">what's wrong with the name Busy Bee Tools? </font>

Oh nothing, if you have a Burr King running on FAG bearings http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

rotate
11-09-2004, 12:07 PM
Busy Bee is not a strange name at all. It refers to hobbyist who are spending all their time in the garage producing items which can be bought for 1/2 the price.

As for B048, it's definitely NOT a ripoff at CDN $3699. This unit is made in Taiwan and not China. Knee mill with power feed, can't be had for much less, anywhere.

The ususal disclaimers.

Elninio
11-09-2004, 12:08 PM
In World war 1, fag meant cigarette "Sgt. Currie was smoking his fag" lol

quasi
11-09-2004, 12:09 PM
If I remember correctly, the BusyBee company is owned by what are called indo-canadians, these are Canadians from the country of India. So maybe busybee is a canadianization of an Indian term?

Milacron of PM
11-09-2004, 12:32 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Busy Bee is not a strange name at all. It refers to hobbyist who are spending all their time in the garage producing items which can be bought for 1/2 the price.</font>

So, it's bees that are running www.half.com (http://www.half.com) ?

I dunno, just sounds more appropriate name for hobbyist spending all their time producing Barbie and Ken accessories to me http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

Chester
11-09-2004, 02:56 PM
There is a family relationship between BB and Grizzly, cousins or something like that.That's the answer I got when I asked a few years ago.

Much of their stuff is the perfect answer to a hobbiest's needs who is not in a production setting and does not want to spend it all. I have many items from them which are ok including a 10" table saw and benchtop mortizer. Only thing I can remember as being NFG was a 1 1/2"-8 face plate adaptor.........finished face had .050 + runout.

Al Flipo
11-09-2004, 04:32 PM
Tell you what Don, you fly the Canadian flag on your spare flagpole in front of your place in Beaufort and we will allow you to criticize the name of the place where we get our cheap tooling.
Come to think of it, you probable can’t buy a Canadian flag in your area, in that case, I will send you a large one, NC.


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Evan
11-09-2004, 04:40 PM
Al, would you please edit your post. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

Milacron of PM
11-09-2004, 04:51 PM
One of my friends, who lives here (and manufactures fiberglass potrusion machinery of all things) is from Nova Scotia....I could get a flag from him.

Interestingly, his company name is WeeBee Enterprises, so apparently there is some genetically based affinity for "bees" and cute names with you guys ! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//wink.gif

torker
11-09-2004, 09:57 PM
Ummm...Dave...type Busy Bee into google and there are about 10 pages of businesses down your way with the same name. And how about Bumble Bee...they're even funnier. You even have a ghost town with that name! I agree though...it is a dummass name for a tool company. Never really thought of it before. I've bought stuff from them for 25 years or so. I see most of their stuff is now labeled "Craftex". Another lame attempt at best but I'll still be buyin their stuff til Dave starts shipping US iron to Canada with "FREE SHIPPING". I'll be your best customer!

speedy
11-10-2004, 04:58 AM
Anyone like 'Lame Duck Tooling' , 'Scalded Cat' or 'Hungry Dog' as a tooling company name? http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//wink.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
Ken

Joel
11-10-2004, 05:30 AM
"Cheap but Barely Tolerable Chinese Tool Company" just doesn't have much of a ring to it.